# Mx135, mx235, mx335 **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 10, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554 "2012-05-10T00:39:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tigrenok](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigrenok/32/2076_2.png) [@Tigrenok](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigrenok)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/1 "2012-05-10T00:39:09Z")
If it was such a huge success and everyone loved it, why not make more? why is it impossible to get any? I’ve been wanting to get some for a few years now and every time I check the site there’s none available ☹ I really miss it and would love to buy some more and I don’t understand why it’s not being produced cause it was a huge hit. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/2 "2012-05-10T02:22:46Z")
Scarcity of molecules is one reason that’s been given as to why certain MX’s and other molecules are no longer available. There are several posts around the forum explaining it. Check out the Store Announcements. MX135/235/335 were TAH based and contained a load of other molecules. So many molecules it was called the kitchen sink mix. They were all the same formula but with different scent packages. And, as you said, we’ve been waiting/hoping for years but there’s still no official word as to when/if any of them will ever be restocked again. So I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting a return anytime soon. TAH is available in the store right now and that’s about as close as you’re going to get at this time. You could try pairing it with some other molecules like IShine, IO or IH, and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and hope for a similar effect. I’m sorry, I know that’s not the answer you were looking for but that’s the best I can do under the circumstances. 🙂 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Tigrenok](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigrenok/32/2076_2.png) [@Tigrenok](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigrenok)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/3 "2012-05-15T19:12:12Z")
I was looking through some other threads and saw that certain MX formulas were posted, but didn’t find one for MX135… does anyone know what exactly was in it so that those of us who really want it can make an attempt at mixing it ourselves? ---
**Author:** ![Tigrenok](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigrenok/32/2076_2.png) [@Tigrenok](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigrenok)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/4 "2012-05-15T23:04:11Z")
Is it just me or does androtics selection of pheros favor men over women… There seems to be a lot more pheros and mixes available for men then for women… seems like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Honesty and Instant Shine is all that’s being offered… can’t even get Instant Sexiness anymore? I was trying to get my order over $60 for the free shipping, but there’s nothing to choose from. 😕 And I’m not a fan of the above three that are still in stock… they smell like very strong male cologne to me. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/5 "2012-05-16T02:51:39Z")
> [@Tigrenok](#): > > _ **I was looking through some other threads and saw that certain MX formulas were posted, but didn’t find one for MX135… does anyone know what exactly was in it so that those of us who really want it can make an attempt at mixing it ourselves?** _ The question was asked and some formulas were posted but you won’t find one for MX135 and there is no “homemade” recipe for MX135. This is about as close as you’re going to get… from Jasmin herself. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx257-p104-its-a-hit/5430/13](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx257-p104-its-a-hit/5430) > [@Tigrenok](#): > > _ **Is it just me or does androtics selection of pheros favor men over women… There seems to be a lot more pheros and mixes available for men then for women… seems like Instant Openness, Instant Honesty and Instant Shine is all that’s being offered… can’t even get Instant Sexiness anymore? I was trying to get my order over $60 for the free shipping, but there’s nothing to choose from. 😕 And I’m not a fan of the above three that are still in stock… they smell like very strong male cologne to me.** _ No, sweetie, it’s not you. 🙂 That’s the way it is. Yes, their bread and butter is really creating products that cater to men who want to improve their business and/or social status. No, there is no more Instant Sexiness A or B. There aren’t many products for women at all and there hasn’t been for a long time… with the exception of a very short-lived reissue of IS/B (no longer available) and that was actually a _reformulation_ and _not the same_ as the original IS/B which contained copulins. Nor was it the same as the reissue of IS/B w/o copulins, that followed the original version. Not too confusing, lol. 🙄 Why there are no longer products being formulated specifically for women is an never-ending question that’s been repeatedly asked for the last few years. There are posts asking “why?” all over the forum and they just keep comin’. I stopped by to answer you so you wouldn’t be left hanging and wondering WTF happened and believe me it ain’t gonna make me any friends, lol. I feel sorry for the girls who show up again expecting to be able to buy their favorite products only to find out they’re gone. They go to the store and nothing is there. What’s more they keep waiting to purchase in hopes that their favorites will soon be restocked and have no clue that it isn’t the way it used to be and that it just ain’t happenin’ and hasn’t been. My advice is to not wait to purchase\* anything\* that’s presently available that you’re interested in. The way things have been going anything could disappear at anytime, never to be seen again. So, if you want something get it while the gettin’ is good and don’t expect to be able to get it again. Now, if the\* only\* reason you don’t like IO, IH and IShine is because they are Neroli scented and that smells masculine to you, that’s an easy fix because Neroli is light enough to be covered by\* most\* colognes/perfumes. So, you can cover the Neroli scent with your favorite perfume and still get the effects of the [pheromones](https://a314.com/). I’m afraid that if you aren’t interested in IShine, IO or IH or TAH or TAL, then you’re SOL. There have been a couple of MX’s that where originally made for men and then AD later “tweaked” them for women… as in… we were told the Androstenone was removed. Frankly, I don’t consider that a product specifically formulated for women. So, except for TAH and TAL, which are presently in stock, there are no other products that are\* specifically for women\*. And that’s why you don’t see many women hanging around here. 😉 It’s a cryin’ shame that so many have disappeared. AD just doesn’t have enough to keep them interested. So, they’ve gone elsewhere to fulfill their needs. And why not, AD has let them down. I love AD products but only so many excuses can be accepted and for so long and like it or not… it is what it is and it is what it isn’t. They can and have stated reasons for the present state of affairs but despite their explanations it’s clear that we’ve been neglected and it’s become increasingly apparent that they have seriously lost interest in formulating products _specifically designed for women_. I can’t believe anything different because it’s been so long since I’ve seen any evidence to the contrary. Yes, yes, yes, the most popular standard issue response to complaints like this is…you can’t expect to continue to get the same products because … _ **“What we do here is experimental and AD is primarily a research and development company”** _… yes, we know. 🙂 I’m sorry, Tigrenok, but don’t know what else to tell you. 🙄 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Tigrenok](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigrenok/32/2076_2.png) [@Tigrenok](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigrenok)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/6 "2012-05-16T09:09:32Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > The question was asked and some formulas were posted but you won’t find one for MX135 and there is no “homemade” recipe for MX135. This is about as close as you’re going to get… from Jasmin herself. > > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx257-p104-its-a-hit/5430/13](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx257-p104-its-a-hit/5430/13) > > No, sweetie, it’s not you. 🙂 That’s the way it is. Yes, their bread and butter is really creating products that cater to men who want to improve their business and/or social status. > > No, there is no more Instant Sexiness A or B. There aren’t many products for women at all and there hasn’t been for a long time… with the exception of a very short-lived reissue of IS/B (no longer available) and that was actually a _reformulation_ and _not the same_ as the original IS/B which contained copulins. Nor was it the same as the reissue of IS/B w/o copulins, that followed the original version. Not too confusing, lol. 🙄 > > Why there are no longer products being formulated specifically for women is an never-ending question that’s been repeatedly asked for the last few years. There are posts asking “why?” all over the forum and they just keep comin’. I stopped by to answer you so you wouldn’t be left hanging and wondering WTF happened and believe me it ain’t gonna make me any friends, lol. I feel sorry for the girls who show up again expecting to be able to buy their favorite products only to find out they’re gone. They go to the store and nothing is there. What’s more they keep waiting to purchase in hopes that their favorites will soon be restocked and have no clue that it isn’t the way it used to be and that it just ain’t happenin’ and hasn’t been. > > My advice is to not wait to purchase _anything_ that’s presently available that you’re interested in. The way things have been going anything could disappear at anytime, never to be seen again. So, if you want something get it while the gettin’ is good and don’t expect to be able to get it again. > > Now, if the _only_ reason you don’t like IO, IH and IShine is because they are Neroli scented and that smells masculine to you, that’s an easy fix because Neroli is light enough to be covered by _most_ colognes/perfumes. So, you can cover the Neroli scent with your favorite perfume and still get the effects of the pheromones. > > I’m afraid that if you aren’t interested in IShine, IO or IH or TAH or TAL, then you’re SOL. There have been a couple of MX’s that where originally made for men and then AD later “tweaked” them for women… as in… we were told the Androstenone was removed. Frankly, I don’t consider that a product specifically formulated for women. So, except for TAH and TAL, which are presently in stock, there are no other products that are _specifically for women_. > > And that’s why you don’t see many women hanging around here. 😉 It’s a cryin’ shame that so many have disappeared. AD just doesn’t have enough to keep them interested. So, they’ve gone elsewhere to fulfill their needs. And why not, AD has let them down. I love AD products but only so many excuses can be accepted and for so long and like it or not… it is what it is and it is what it isn’t. They can and have stated reasons for the present state of affairs but despite their explanations it’s clear that we’ve been neglected and it’s become increasingly apparent that they have seriously lost interest in formulating products _specifically designed for women_. I can’t believe anything different because it’s been so long since I’ve seen any evidence to the contrary. > > Yes, yes, yes, the most popular standard issue response to complaints like this is…you can’t expect to continue to get the same products because … _ **“What we do here is experimental and AD is primarily a research and development company”** _… yes, we know. 🙂 > > I’m sorry, Tigrenok, but don’t know what else to tell you. 🙄 > > Bella Thanks for replying! It really is a shame… I guess I’ll have to buy pheros from others that shall not be named… I just really love Androtics chocolatini scent and no one else has anything similar to it. Oh well, I guess I’m really SOL. ---
**Author:** ![Andsoitgoes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andsoitgoes/32/220_2.png) [@Andsoitgoes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Andsoitgoes)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/7 "2012-05-16T11:24:08Z")
It really is a shame. I’ve seen posts that say they’re dying for women’s perspectives, but they don’t give 'em much to work with, do they? These are the first phero’d products I ever tried, and I’ve since tried many others from many other places with some success. But I’ve gotta say it, the ones I get from here have always given the most pronounced, consistent results. If I wear TAL, IS, TUTH, etc, I _know_ something’s going to happen. With some from other companies, it’s been very hit or miss. So yeah, the AD products are effective, and I understand why they’d like a woman’s perspective. But they can’t expect to get many of those without providing them a reason to hang around in the first place. It’s like the damn Field of Dreams up in here. If you build it, they will come. ---
**Author:** ![Syn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/syn/32/2340_2.png) [@Syn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Syn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/8 "2012-05-17T14:58:32Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > The question was asked and some formulas were posted but you won’t find one for MX135 and there is no “homemade” recipe for MX135. This is about as close as you’re going to get… from Jasmin herself. > > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx257-p104-its-a-hit/5430/13](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx257-p104-its-a-hit/5430/13) > > No, sweetie, it’s not you. 🙂 That’s the way it is. Yes, their bread and butter is really creating products that cater to men who want to improve their business and/or social status. > > No, there is no more Instant Sexiness A or B. There aren’t many products for women at all and there hasn’t been for a long time… with the exception of a very short-lived reissue of IS/B (no longer available) and that was actually a _reformulation_ and _not the same_ as the original IS/B which contained copulins. Nor was it the same as the reissue of IS/B w/o copulins, that followed the original version. Not too confusing, lol. 🙄 > > Why there are no longer products being formulated specifically for women is an never-ending question that’s been repeatedly asked for the last few years. There are posts asking “why?” all over the forum and they just keep comin’. I stopped by to answer you so you wouldn’t be left hanging and wondering WTF happened and believe me it ain’t gonna make me any friends, lol. I feel sorry for the girls who show up again expecting to be able to buy their favorite products only to find out they’re gone. They go to the store and nothing is there. What’s more they keep waiting to purchase in hopes that their favorites will soon be restocked and have no clue that it isn’t the way it used to be and that it just ain’t happenin’ and hasn’t been. > > My advice is to not wait to purchase _anything_ that’s presently available that you’re interested in. The way things have been going anything could disappear at anytime, never to be seen again. So, if you want something get it while the gettin’ is good and don’t expect to be able to get it again. > > Now, if the _only_ reason you don’t like IO, IH and IShine is because they are Neroli scented and that smells masculine to you, that’s an easy fix because Neroli is light enough to be covered by _most_ colognes/perfumes. So, you can cover the Neroli scent with your favorite perfume and still get the effects of the pheromones. > > I’m afraid that if you aren’t interested in IShine, IO or IH or TAH or TAL, then you’re SOL. There have been a couple of MX’s that where originally made for men and then AD later “tweaked” them for women… as in… we were told the Androstenone was removed. Frankly, I don’t consider that a product specifically formulated for women. So, except for TAH and TAL, which are presently in stock, there are no other products that are _specifically for women_. > > And that’s why you don’t see many women hanging around here. 😉 It’s a cryin’ shame that so many have disappeared. AD just doesn’t have enough to keep them interested. So, they’ve gone elsewhere to fulfill their needs. And why not, AD has let them down. I love AD products but only so many excuses can be accepted and for so long and like it or not… it is what it is and it is what it isn’t. They can and have stated reasons for the present state of affairs but despite their explanations it’s clear that we’ve been neglected and it’s become increasingly apparent that they have seriously lost interest in formulating products _specifically designed for women_. I can’t believe anything different because it’s been so long since I’ve seen any evidence to the contrary. > > Yes, yes, yes, the most popular standard issue response to complaints like this is…you can’t expect to continue to get the same products because … _ **“What we do here is experimental and AD is primarily a research and development company”** _… yes, we know. 🙂 > > I’m sorry, Tigrenok, but don’t know what else to tell you. 🙄 > > Bella _Sighs sadly_ Then what are we doing here? What is the point of us being here if they’re cutting away the products we happily buy? I get this is a research company, but they also profit from consumers. What’s wrong with a little extra revenue? ☹ Can a petition be made? Can the company be contacted? It’s really a shame women are on the backburner to this extent! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx135-mx235-mx335/55554/9 "2012-05-18T04:11:07Z")
> [@Syn](#): > > _ **Sighs sadly Then what are we doing here? What is the point of us being here if they’re cutting away the products we happily buy? I get this is a research company, but they also profit from consumers.** _ > > _ **What’s wrong with a little extra revenue? ☹** _ > _ **Can a petition be made? Can the company be contacted? It’s really a shame women are on the backburner to this extent!** _ Sure, start a petition, a poll, pray to Jesus, howl at the moon, sacrifice a virgin, (if you can find one around here 😃), or _anything_ that may garner results. Yes, it’s evident that products _specifically formulated for women_ has fallen by the wayside. No question about that, nobody can deny it. And reasons for that have been stated by the representatives of AD. There’s nothing wrong with a little extra revenue but I’m not jumping on the We Are Consumers Hear Us Roar merry-go round/band wagon again. I’ve been on this ride too many times, in fact I’ve driven this ride and banged the drum, along with a few other stout hearted troopers, for a very long time and all I get is dizzy. There are certain products that AD markets to “consumers”. Those are proven products and referred to as the Instant line… IShine, IO and IH… and they are unisex. You could also safely say, at this point, that A314 is also a consumer product do to it’s fame/acclaim and the fact that it has been consistently proven to work. As for experimones (MX’s) and particularly putatives (P’s), which are _suspected_ pheromones, they are experimental products and more complicated in nature so they are not recommended for newbies nor promoted to the general off the street consumer. If you have an interest in pheromones, after trying the Instant line, then you might be further enough interested/hooked to delve into the experimones/putatives. The ladies who are new to the forum and the ladies who have been here for years have all voiced complaints in one form or another about the lack of products _specifically formulated for women_… and/or the lack of availability/discontinuation of favorite products but you go ahead. 🙂 Everyone has a right to freely voice their opinion and nobody is gonna holler at you. I’ve said my piece about this more than once and in a way I still do, lol. 😉 I’d bet the farm that nearly every post on this forum is read by a mod/admin. So, it’s not like AD doesn’t know what we’ve been posting about, they do. Hey, there!.. _waves_… 😃. Hopefully this sad state of affairs won’t last forever. Maybe _someone_ has been formulating behind the scenes for months, even years, to bring us something new or to restock some of our favorites… in the very near future. We can only hope. As to why the ladies are still here despite the obvious lack of women’s products, well, I can only speak for myself. First of all, what I came to realize after becoming involved with pheromones is that they aren’t all created equally. I’ve used pheromones from just about every company out there and some of them/their owners are definitely of questionable repute and they don’t use the best quality molecules that AD insists upon. Instead they use crap from China! No, thank you. That’s why it’s important to know/trust whomever you’re buying from. 😉 In fact, there’s an unmentionable copycat company,(who AD should be suing!), that uses crap molecules and has similarly named their products after AD’s products! 🙄 That’s not to say there aren’t other quality companies/products out there, there are a few but AD is at the top of the heap and has the absolute best quality molecules/products available in the industry _and_ is also one of the best/most courteous companies to do business with… and I’m far from the only experienced user who thinks so. Second, although I do want products that have been specifically designed for women and have issues with that, those products aren’t the be all and end all of my interest in pheromones, I’m also interested in experimones/putatives. So, there is more here for me than there may be for some other women who don’t particularly care to go any further than using strictly “women’s” products. And last but not least, I’ve been around these parts for a long time. I’m particular about where I participate and who I associate with in the pheromone community. Yes, this forum is primarily dedicated to discussion/promotion of AD products but there are very few places where you can get the real skinny and quality of information that you can get at PheroTalk. And what’s more, I actually have friends here, some I’ve known for a long time, that I like “seeing” and “talking” with about pheromones and a variety of other subjects… and, besides, somebody has to hang around to answer questions like this from newbies. 😉 So, that’s why\* I’m\* here. 🙂 Bella