# Mx172-173 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 3, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398 "2007-01-03T14:57:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Domingo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domingo/32/781_2.png) [@Domingo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domingo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/21 "2007-01-14T11:35:48Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > It has a specific meaning in biology, but here is a quote from MHarris in which he explains what’s meant by it in reference to pheromones: > > “Out of what you mentioned, you can cause a seriously negative reaction in many men with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). The effects of that are extremely sexually dimorphic; i.e., **it affects men and women in a completely different manner.** It’s reported to be almost euphoric for women, while it’s dysphoric for me and many other men. 5 sprays of that to hot areas on your body, and you should be able to sullen a group of men quite easily.” Thanks Carrie, very informative and it also fits the bill quite nicely regarding MX138 & MX140, imho. ---
**Author:** ![Domingo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domingo/32/781_2.png) [@Domingo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domingo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/22 "2007-01-14T11:39:07Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Domingo, can you tell us in detail of your experiences with Androst-A-none… What does it do exactly to women? Is there a 'sexual element to it? It makes you feel a little nervous? > > Visionary I’ll try, but remember; English is not my native language, so I hope you can understand me, OK? 😃 First there is the scent. Based on that alone, I can not tell the difference between the two -nones, both very stinkie in high (chemset) concentrations. The reaction on myself is a bit more suave with Androst-A-None then is the case with Androst-E-None. In other words, I can tolerate it better. On women it seems to work rather well. That is, if kept within a reasonable dose and toned down with other, more friendly pheromones. I have a mix consisting of: 2.5mcg/TAF, 10mcg/P74, 7,5mcg/P81 and 7,5mcg/p83 per spray, and when I add a small amount of A-none to that it brings very nice results. Girls seem to be real comfortable, and at the same time quite flirty and inviting around me when I wear this. Lots of hair flipping, ‘that’ looks etc. However, when you overdo it, it has the same ‘dark’ vibe as its twin brother. Maybe even worse… Best example so far is the experience I had with my dentists assistant. She is in her late twenty’s, and a very nice ‘girl next door’-type. Long, dark hair, ponytail, nice figure, sunny character, just a real nice girl (good teeth also, lol). I don’t know if she has a boyfriend or anything, but I alway’s have the feeling she kindda likes my type also, so to speak. Anyway, recently I had some dentalwork to be done (rootcanal), and because this treatment is done in multiple, rather lenghty sessions, I thought it was a exellent opportunity to test some pheromones. Specially because you have people being very close to you for a fair amount of time. My dentist is a woman too, by the way, but she’s older (late 40ths) and married, and not really attractive, very friendly tho. I like her a lot. On the first session I wore a combination with 2 drops of A314 (in the neck) and some cologne with A-Androstenol and B-Androstenol (you could say it’s kind of like a ‘DeLuxe’-version of ‘Scent of Eros’) and just very little A-none. Just tipped a needle in the bottle and smeared that on my underarms. That’s maybe 1/8th of a drop, maybe more, maybe less, I don’t know, but I could hardly smell it, so it could not have been much. This resulted in overal good vibes, two friendly women doing their job and the assistent being her smiling and lovely self. Later, when she took the next appointment, I made a joke when she asked when I had time for the next appointment, I told her I’d wait till it was ‘skirt season’ again. Nah, this doesnt translate well, but at least it made her laugh out loud, so she thought it was funny and was obviously not offended by it at all. However, the 2nd appointment was very different! This was about 7 weeks later and I wore 2 drops of pure (chemset !!) A-none, added to about 1/2 a ml of diluted cologne (Fahrenheit with some Wodka) so I was able to spray quite a lot of it without being a perfum-bomb. I wore no other pheromones that day. At first the assistent was nice (“hi, hello, how are you?”) big smile, just as usual. After that they started working on me and I didn’t noticed very much regarding effects of the pheromones, well, not untill they were finished, that is! First, they did not offer me any water to clean my mouth. Which is odd, because they ALWAY’S do that! And second, they didn’t pull the lamp up, nor did they adjust the chair, so I just had to slide from under that lamp, which was still quite close to my face, lol. But that’s not all! I also had to make a new appointment for in about 2 weeks, to make a photo and see if it all went well. First, the assistent kept me waiting for almost 15 minutes! And man, that look on her face when she finally made time for me! LOL! Like I had done something really bad to her. Very short answers, irritated and a ‘drop dead asshole’-look on her face. I was totally amazed! And I NEVER saw her act like that! And I have seen her like maybe 20 times over the last 6 years. Weird, weird, WEIRD! Off course, two weeks later everything was completely back to normal. So far my experiences with A-none. In short: I think that regarding the effect on women, both the good sides as well as the bad sites are more obvious. For myself I like it better than E-none, because the latter I can’t stand at all. Only thing I have not tried is how it effects other men. ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/23 "2007-01-15T13:52:49Z")
> [@Sunny](#): > > I understand 😉 , but which amount do you prefer? Sorry, I guess I misunderstood the question. lol I would usually start my day w/ 2 sprays MX172 and 4-6 sprays (depending on my mood) MX136, then refresh w/ 1 spray of MX172 and 2-3 sprays of MX136 about half way thru the day. I’ve also found that adding a spray or two of [MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) adds a nice attention/attraction element…very charismatic. I’m curious if anyone else has found MX200 to be “work safe”. It’s a very interesting mix. I like it alot. ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/24 "2007-01-15T14:00:31Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > I agree that MX138 and MX140 (my favorites from the Liquid Sunshine series) have something unusual going on. For me, they are comforting, relaxing, social, empathic and sexual … I can live with that! Now that I’ve been using Instant Female Magic lately, I wonder if these 2 mixes have something in common with Instant Female Magic - plus something that results in sexual arousal. This is interesting as my first impression of MX140 was that it may have Androstadienone in it…it was very mellow…almost to the point of being gloomy. However, it just didn’t quite feel the same as Androstadienone. Here’s my take on the Liquid Sunshine series: [Liquid Sunshine results](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/liquid-sunshine-results/1386) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/25 "2007-01-15T14:09:05Z")
> [@Scottie2Hottie](#): > > Sorry, I guess I misunderstood the question. lol I would usually start my day w/ 2 sprays MX172 and 4-6 sprays (depending on my mood) MX136, then refresh w/ 1 spray of MX172 and 2-3 sprays of MX136 about half way thru the day. > > I’ve also found that adding a spray or two of MX200 adds a nice attention/attraction element…very charismatic. I’m curious if anyone else has found MX200 to be “work safe”. It’s a very interesting mix. I like it alot. Wow, that’s a lot! Thank you, Scottie. I haven’t tried that much yet. My 5ml of MX136 won’t keep long… I feel I need to keep a little bit of A314 oil under my nose when I use this, or I feel and act too weak. ---
**Author:** ![Scottie2Hottie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scottie2hottie/32/628_2.png) [@Scottie2Hottie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scottie2Hottie)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/26 "2007-01-15T14:21:32Z")
> [@Sunny](#): > > Wow, that’s a lot! Thank you, Scottie. I haven’t tried that much yet. My 5ml of MX136 won’t keep long… I feel I need to keep a little bit of A314 oil under my nose when I use this, or I feel and act too weak. I suppose I can go heavy on the 136 at times…like I said it just depends on my mood. Some days a couple of sprays are fine and other days I need a bigger mood boost. I’d still say that 2:1 is a good general ratio/guideline. I’ve tried a dab of A314 under my nose, as well…the self-effects seem stronger and longer lasting. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/27 "2007-01-15T14:52:52Z")
> [@Scottie2Hottie](#): > > I’ve tried a dab of A314 under my nose, as well…the self-effects seem stronger and longer lasting. I agree 100% 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/28 "2007-01-20T03:21:05Z")
> [@Scottie2Hottie](#): > > I’ve also found that adding a spray or two of MX200 adds a nice attention/attraction element…very charismatic. I’m curious if anyone else has found MX200 to be “work safe”. It’s a very interesting mix. I like it alot. Scottie, I haven’t got it myself but the following was written by Jasmin about MX200: **[Forum Member Freebie Coupons 12/04/2006 - 12/11/06 -- P93, and.... Asian Persuasion??](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/forum-member-freebie-coupons-12-04-2006-12-11-06-p93-and-asian-persuasion/1018)** Michael (known as MHarris on the forum) has been playing around with more oddball mixes lately, and wants to share his latest one with you. It has 6 main pheromones, and 9 secondary ones (17 pheromones total)… it’s a doozy of a symphonic mix! The mix is only a few days old and not very well tested (that’s where you come in). So far, the little we’ve gotten to play with it, we’ve noticed something very unusual: more [IOIs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/forum-member-freebie-coupons-12-04-2006-12-11-06-p93-and-asian-persuasion/1018#) from Asian Women than others. I don’t know if it was just a fluke or know if you’ll notice the same thing, but it’s rather fascinating to me. Many men want more influence with beautiful Asian ladies, but it’s well known that most pheromones formulas are just too much for them. Or the lovely Asian girls are simply too reserved to respond “outside their heads”. Either way, “Asian Persuasion” has long been something pheromone users have been pining for. If it actually ends up hitting Asian women’s hot buttons more than others, we’d be glad to develop this into a product. We could even call it “Asian Persuasion” – that’s awfully cute! 🙂 So this week, you’re getting this mix, _and_ a new “putative” pheromone (a suspected pheromone). Here’s the details: **1.** The first pheromone test mix you get is **MX200.** This is the symphonic mix I was describing above. Mixed with what we’ve been calling our “PheroGame” cologne (or Fragrance #6 internally). This fragrance has proving itself to distribute pheromones at a long distance. – Now, based on our observations so far, I’d say MX200 is probably safe to test anywhere. I saw it get some Asian ladies panties in a bunch, but it seemed more like a friendly mix for other races (but don’t let me tell you what this does – you tell me! I’ve only seen this in action for under an hour). Again, you really need to test this yourself, but from what _I’ve_ seen, you can probably safely test this at work, out and about with friends, shopping, or barhopping. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/29 "2007-01-20T20:43:26Z")
whats in mx172? whats it based around A314? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2007, 11:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/30 "2007-01-21T11:49:11Z")
> [@examine](#): > > whats in mx172? whats it based around A314? Yes. It’s a variation of A314, as an alcohol based spray. The reason for the different reactions may not only be the different content but also the different diffision rates in alcohol (my opinion). [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398.md?page=1)