MX201/P93 with Shine and MX211 at a bar: social or sexual effect?

Tonight I decided to go light on the pheromones because I was meeting up with friends. I thought there might be a possibility for a target to show up as we were at a bar, but the odds were slim due to the area.

My mix was
1 spray shine to the face -1hour from other aplications
1 spray mx201 (which is p93, but I don’t know if it’s solo)
2 sprays mx211 (10.3mcg alphanol +taa in ammo scent)
with residual 2.5mcg -none from the previous night (I wore the same undershirt, and had spayed the -none on my chest) I think this was insignificant, but worth noting.

I show up 2 hours late. There are 2 girls I know, and they are the reason I showed up. They are both friends, have boyfriends, and both alpha HB8. The rest of the people there are aquaintances with the exception of a HB A’s boyfriend, who is a social friend. HB A is the first person I talk to. She comes up to me, hugs me, and is glad I came. I had given her a hard time because I didn’t find out she was coming into town until I read it on somebodies myspace profile. She had been hoping that I would show up and that I had gotten her text message.

She imediatly points out that HB B is there. HB B runs up to me and jumps one me. I’m holding her up in the air and hugging her. This is a little uncommon, but I haven’t seen her in a month and she was drunk. She hold on a little to long IMO, and after I put her down, she tells me I have to pick her up again. I attribute the second lift to the phero’s.

I get some hello’s from aquaintances, get a drink, and chill out until i’m slowly integrated into the group as I showed up late and this group was 90 percent of the bars crowd.

I get up and am next to HB A and B, and suddenly find myself in a HB dance sandwich. Sweet deal! (very strange though). Both A and B were very friendly and unusualy forward in a physical manor (aka the grinding action wich happened several times throughout the night).

30 minutes after arival, HB A makes note of my “cologne” She tells me, “You smell good, REALY good! What are you wearing” I told her it was called ammunition (as the mx211 is ammo scented) and that she wouldn’t be able to find it. It was my secret, and I had modified the scent. She smelled me a couple of times and began to describe the scent as, “I realy like it. It’s not too sweet, and it’s not to…” She then made some hand jestures signifying a perfect balance and continued, “It’s…” I intergected and said, “captivating.” She agreed and smelled me again. :cool: I bring up the fragrance later to start up a conversation, and she said it was the first thing she noticed when she hugged me and loved it. She couldn’t say enough about how wonderful this stuff was, and agreed that I should keep it a secret. It would be to my benifit to not have other people wearing it. I’ve worn mx211 around HB A before and never recieved this results. I’m positive it was the mx201. It does something to the female brain that is truely facinating and fantastic.

2 hours after aplication I thought the mx211 was wearing off. I went to my car and intended on applying 1 spray of mx208, and 1 spray of 211 because the scent went over so well. I confused the 208 for 201. OOOPS. MHarris had suggested that P93 has a very strong sexual vibe. I didn’t want to come off to sexual so I sprayed 2 spays of mx208 on top of the added mx201 and mx211.

So the second aplication was
1 mx201
2 mx208
1 mx211

I go back in. HB A and B aproach after another bathroom trip to gossip. A dances past me, and B stops to talk. She notices my scent and comments on how good I smell. I tell her its a secret and she gives me a teasing look as she moves toward her boyfriend in close proximity.

As for HB A and B, there were many physical interactions, and interest in my presence that were above the normal interactions. Oh there was also a reduction in space and increased kino with other females present. One being a GM for Mad Anthony’s who is the older sister of the social friend. I talked to her about the restraunt industry and inquired about bartending. (i’m a Hospitality and Tourism Managment major, which is hotels and restraunts) She pretty much told me that if I decided to look for a server job and apply at Mad Anthony’s to use her as a reference (the GM doesn’t hire the servers, just reviews apps). So I more of less was offered a job. She agreed that applying for a position at the Hilton that is being built in the area would be a better option based on my interests. I could have kept talking to her about the industry, but I stopped the conversation and told her that I’d quit bugging her about work when she’s out having fun. The laughed and agreed. She was saying how much she had worked lately and this was one of her few nights out. As she was talking she touched my shoulder, and eventualy put her hand behind my back. I naturaly did the same. There was a definate closeness to this contact, and I was a little shocked by it.

Interactions with men were friendly and I had quite a few wonderful conversations (especialy with HB B’s new boyfriend. I had to find out a little bit about him. HB B is a good friend).

There didn’t seem to be any negative effects such as avoidance or the ghost effect, as long as the mx201 was lightly buffered. I don’t think using mx201 as a solo would be as effective if not buffered. I didn’t see any type of agression. I didn’t notice much of a difference in my own actions/character. There may have been a little less need for personal, physical and conversational space, but that could have been a result of how I was treated by the group. I think I may have been less gaurded to sexual inuendo, but I don’t put much weight in that speculation.

I’m very happy with mx201, and am glad I found my bottle as I lost it earlier today. :smiley:

I posted to soon. mx201 definately enhances closeness. I was talking with HB A about my plans to move to Cali. She told me if I moved to Cali she would probably move with me.:open_mouth:

The closeness effect doesn’t stop there. When I was talking to HB B’s boyfriend we shared some pretty hush hush stories about “fun times” at college. We both went to Purdue, and experimented with many available luxuries if you will. He told me things that could be damaging to his newly aquired relationship, and it was ok. We both subconciously understood that the discussion was confidential. We even teased HB B when walked in on a conversation regarding her. We both gave her vague answers as to what we where discussing about her. It was pretty funny.

Ok, i’m done.:stuck_out_tongue:

Very thorough report: Great

Thanks steveo.

I tested mx201 and mx208 (1 of each) on a buddy of mine a few weeks back. It seemed to work very well for him. He made more progress with a long term target then he ever had before. He also hit it off huge with these two HB7.5’s at the second bar of the night.

Excellent and thorough report as well as analysis Toil, I enjoyed reading it all, thank you for the insight! :smiley:

Thanks toilofday for your great feedback! I am especially interested in your thoughts on MX201 (which contains P93 in Neroli). You wrote that MX201 enances closeness and seems to be BNol-like in the way people disclose personal information.

Can you please test MX201 by itself as I have a feeling that the other mones you are using could be altering the effect? Also how much are you using to get this effect?

Thanks in advance
Visionary

It didn’t elicit betanolish qualities. Betanol adds a depth to conversation. This was more of a “I get you” kind of think. A general understanding of who a person is without realy knowing them at all.

I used 1 spray of mx201 preferabley.

I have used it unacompanied. It’s a little anti social, but easily corrected with some alphanol and Taa (aka the mx207-212 series). I used it in class and had a conversation durring break by the vending machine. I found out a decent amount about her during that 5 minute period.

Now that I think about it. P93 has an openness/honesty (not referencing the 2 instant products) side to it. I was told some pretty person things. It was definately not betanolish though. It wasn’t deep, but rather personaly informative or personaly revealing at the extreme.

I realy seems like bar type of pheromone, but I haven’t noticed any negative results (except it not being social without something that is). I think it could be worn during the daytime when you are out and about, as long as you aren’t at work. You may be able to wear it at work, but I haven’t tested it in a work setting.

I’m down 1/2 a togo bottle so that’s roughly 20 80% sized sprays. So I have a fair hold on it’s effect. I still have more testing to do.

I REALY like P93, and If I had a bottle of it, i’d probably wear 5-10mcg. I think 7.5mcg could be the sweet spot.

wrong on my doses

12.5 to 22.5 with a sweet spot of 17.5

Hey toil,
I pasted in another post of yours (see below) and I know you are a fan of P93, indeed you seem to be the biggest fan of it on the forum.

Now do you find it lasts a very long time. Because I am wondering if I managed to get a strong ‘I get you’ type hit (like you describe below) off it like 7 hours after application of 5 mcg or whether it was something else in the mix (I wore A314 and WAGG as well)… Pretty much all the other putatives I have ever tried do not really last longer than an hour on my skin so I am wondering what the deal is with this P93 (I have the unscented version)… Is it really long lasting on the skin?

Visionary

"After reading this, and your PM. P93 for sure. It’s sexual with a strong element of closeness (but not super deep). It gives off and “I get you” vibe. Think of it like the type of closeness you have with your best friend. They just get you. The beauty is that I haven’t seen any negative results on women or men, and all you need is some alpha Androstenol and taa to make it inviting for clubs or with your lady.

Talk to jasmin about the recomendations I gave you. I am even more convinced p93 will be good for you.

People, get on these p93 tests. The stuff is great. Maybe i’m crazy, but it’s slowly becoming my favorite. (it’s also called mx201)

12.5 mcg is a nice, light sexual vibe. 2 sprays could be to uninviting, but as long as it’s buffered it’s great. By its self, I think it’s not as sexual, or maybe too sexual. Probably the later."

You know what Visionary…I’m not sure on how long it lasts.

When I wear it I put it on in the bar parking lot 3 hours later I go for a second application and tweak my mix based on how people are responding.

I do see the effects drop off pretty rapidly after 3 hours, so I’d speculate that it’s very diffusive.

I’d speculate it was the A314, but then again, I never go without a reapplication for more than 4 hours when I use pheromones.

I’ll have to test this out.

Let me know what you find out.

HMMM, interesting there Toil.

So you are still sticking with the 17.5 mcg as a basis of good vibe?

I have an idea for a mix, as we spoke about last night, and will be sure to post some results if it works. Preliminary testing last night seemed to go well, but the interaction was probably going to happen anyway.

That entire range is pretty good.

It’a a pretty straight forward molocule. You put it on, lightly buffer and go.

Bring a little p93 + the buffers for reaplication

hey toil? what do you mean exactly? abotu being personally informative and revealing?

liek you’re willing to share the details of your latest invasive doctor’s appointment, sort of revealing?

It was a simple case of pheromone induced male bonding. I didn’t know how to say that when I wrote this and it came to me later on.

ahh…gotcha.

so basically y’all talked cars, beer and strippers? :wink:

well…not exactly.

We talked about missadventures at Purdue (sex, drugs, rock n roll)

not far off.

p93 is in my stash too. i think that will be tomorrow’s adventure.

Hmmm, maybe it’s a bonding openess kind of thing altogethor that might work as a buffer for a strong sex phero like TUTH.

Much more experimenting to do. I had a strange hit using P93, but also a bunch of other stuff. Testing is fun!

i just got some mx201… now, if it tends to be somewhat anti-social like toil was saying could i wear some instant openness with it to buffer that effect?

Yeah, that will do it. It doesn’t take much to increase the aproachability of this molocule.

If you have shine I’d put on a spray or two of that as well. It’s not needed, but it’s a nice addition.