# Mx292 Hit or DIE situation! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 14, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860 "2009-01-14T02:14:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/1 "2009-01-14T02:14:48Z")
Wow, wow, wow, wow! What went wrong!? I had the worst experience with mones ever today. My application: 1x M292 (could have been two as the bottle was being weird) 2x IS x2 2x IO 2x IH 2x IFM I think it is worth noting that I didn’t use any -none products other than Mx292 during the entire day, and that I wash the application points nightly with Witch Hazel, and soap and water. Really, the only thing I can report, is extreme ghosting. And I mean EXTREME. During play rehearsal I would walk into a room and immediately 4-7 people would just walk out! People who were being exceptionally nice to me yesterday. If I struck up a conversation with someone it lasted less than 15 seconds EVERY SINGLE TIME and the person would leave the area with no particular destination. Wow, today really sucked. These are people I’ve known for at the minimum 2 years each and they wouldn’t even look at me. I don’t recall a single person starting a conversation with me for the three hour period I was there. On a side note: it seemed the Asian people at the rehearsal were unaffected, they seemed to be their normal selves. I don’t know what went wrong, but I need these people to look up to me and respect me, so I’m going to stop testing Mx292 on them immediately. If you’ll take a look at my journal you’ll see that I had a fantastic day yesterday with a nearly identical application… Hit or miss? Hit or GET THE HELL OUT OF MY SIGHT. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/2 "2009-01-14T02:42:28Z")
have you tried mx292 alone yet? Reports on this one seem to point to it being very powerful on it’s own, so maybe you just overdid it. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/3 "2009-01-14T02:43:29Z")
Those effects aren’t necessarily from MX292. It’s such a big mix, who knows what the really bad part is. The IFM probably wasn’t a hit with the guys, either. It makes most men feel terrible. BTW – please don’t use MXs with other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) when you start testing a new one. There’s nothing to learn or understand about a new mix that way… except well, stuff like this. 🙂 After you get to know how something works on it’s own, then it’s then okay to start adding additional molecules or mixes/products to see how it gets modified. Before that, one thing at a time… one thing at a time. You’ll learn, chemosabi. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/4 "2009-01-14T03:00:23Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Those effects aren’t necessarily from MX292. It’s such a big mix, who knows what the really bad part is. The IFM probably wasn’t a hit with the guys, either. It makes most men feel terrible. > > BTW – please don’t use MXs with other pheromones when you start testing a new one. There’s nothing to learn or understand about a new mix that way… except well, stuff like this. 🙂 > > After you get to know how something works on it’s own, then it’s then okay to start adding additional molecules or mixes/products to see how it gets modified. Before that, one thing at a time… one thing at a time. You’ll learn, chemosabi. 😛 I have noticed that using more than at least two products at once really makes hits messy or non-existing sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/5 "2009-01-14T03:22:16Z")
Ok, I will go back to just using Mx292…maybe just a little IS added? My results were great with it added on…pweeeeze? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/6 "2009-01-14T03:27:37Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > chemosabi. 😛 LMAO. Niceeeeeeeeeee Jas, just nice! That’s a new one! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/7 "2009-01-14T03:32:04Z")
> [@pherophreak](#): > > Ok, I will go back to just using Mx292…maybe just a little IS added? My results were great with it added on…pweeeeze? I don’t know man, Jas knows her stuff. And it’s true, that was one of my newbie mistakes. I used to spray on more than three products at a time, and when I would get “hits” I wouldn’t know what it was caused from because I had on so many. I would suggest following Jasmin’s advice and try out MX alone first. I mean think about it, once it is finally released as a product you’ll be known as one of the testers who HELPED figure out just what this new mix does! So try it out alone until you start to see a pattern, then when you know just what it does add stuff. However, I suggest just one more add on after that. MAYBE three. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/8 "2009-01-14T03:33:26Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > I don’t know man, Jas knows her stuff. And it’s true, that was one of my newbie mistakes. I used to spray on more than three products at a time, and when I would get “hits” I wouldn’t know what it was caused from because I had on so many. > > I would suggest following Jasmin’s advice and try out MX alone first. I mean think about it, once it is finally released as a product you’ll be known as one of the testers who HELPED figure out just what this new mix does! So try it out alone until you start to see a pattern, then when you know just what it does add stuff. However, I suggest just one more add on after that. MAYBE three. I agree with you, but I think you should know I’m not just a newbie throwing on whatever sounds good. That was a tried and proven mix–except I usually use [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) instead of Mx292. That is the only substitution. I won’t be doing it again. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/9 "2009-01-14T03:43:47Z")
> [@pherophreak](#): > > I agree with you, but I think you should know I’m not just a newbie throwing on whatever sounds good. That was a tried and proven mix–except I usually use Ammo instead of Mx292. That is the only substitution. I won’t be doing it again. So then you’re saying that you already know what MX292 does and that’s why you already were comfortable with adding different products to MX292? Oh, OK cool. Well, then what does MX292 do by itself? I personally do not know, so I’d love to get your thoughts on what MX292 does by itself. ---
**Author:** ![Rovot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rovot/32/5179_2.png) [@Rovot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rovot)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/10 "2009-01-14T03:54:40Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Oh, OK cool. Well, then what does MX292 do by itself? I personally do not know, so I’d love to get your thoughts on what MX292 does by itself. I concur. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/11 "2009-01-14T04:54:38Z")
I wore it alone for three days and noticed the following: Must be some sort of Nols in it or something, the area around me was usually happy and cheery, chatting or laughing whenever possible. It’s affect on females seems to be a hit/miss thing. Girls will either want to spend a lot of time with me, initiate conversation, get closer, OR they will not want to be near me at all. It has had positive noticeable IOI’s from 2 Blond females, one brunette female. Very negative reaction from 1 brunette female, and 2 black hair females. (I think they dye their hair) The smell is pretty enjoyable to me. I’ve also received several compliments on it. It seems to last around 1 1/2 hours as a pretty noticeable smell, then either the smell wears off OR I become used to the scent and can’t smell it. My Gist of the product that it is a heavily social buffered mix, it makes people happy and perhaps treat me better, (a friend noted this as well with 1 spray) and for girls it can be a dream come true or worst nightmare. I really like the product, but I won’t lie and say all of my results have been positive. (These are results of Mx292 ONLY, not todays screwup) ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/12 "2009-01-14T05:11:17Z")
> [@pherophreak](#): > > I wore it alone for three days and noticed the following: > > Must be some sort of Nols in it or something, the area around me was usually happy and cheery, chatting or laughing whenever possible. > > It’s affect on females seems to be a hit/miss thing. Girls will either want to spend a lot of time with me, initiate conversation, get closer, OR they will not want to be near me at all. It has had positive noticeable IOI’s from 2 Blond females, one brunette female. Very negative reaction from 1 brunette female, and 2 black hair females. (I think they dye their hair) > > The smell is pretty enjoyable to me. I’ve also received several compliments on it. It seems to last around 1 1/2 hours as a pretty noticeable smell, then either the smell wears off OR I become used to the scent and can’t smell it. > > My Gist of the product that it is a heavily social buffered mix, it makes people happy and perhaps treat me better, (a friend noted this as well with 1 spray) and for girls it can be a dream come true or worst nightmare. I really like the product, but I won’t lie and say all of my results have been positive. (These are results of Mx292 ONLY, not todays screwup) Hm, it almost sounds similar to what some users report when using too much CTTM (sometimes not even that much at times.) Some say that too much CTTM can result in the same things you’ve experienced. However that’s just my guess as I have not yet tried both of these products, but I have heard that MX292 comes in the game scent if I’m not mistaken. Perhaps the extra added socials (IF MX292 even has socials in it) might have caused this? Then again, you did say that it has worked well for you in the past. I think that another thing to note is that we will all have our bad days and good days. Perhaps those people just had a lot on their mind? If someone is having a bad day, have a lot on their minds like problems for example, or whatnot I really don’t think that they will stop what they’re doing just for a user wearing pheromones. Other than that, good thing that you tried it out first alone! As I say, it’s all hit or miss. Try it out again and see what happens. After all, this is what research and testing is all about. We all have to go through the good and the bad days of research. ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/13 "2009-01-14T05:34:43Z")
mx292 is showing evidence of beta nols for me. i’ve had several people open up and talk to. i’ve used 292 4 different times 3 of these were with 4-5 drops a314 and 2 -3 sprays mx292. once was mx292 only. with a314 people who hardly ever talk to me were very chummy buddy buddy like. they also reveiled a lot of depth and clarity to me about there personal lives and seemed very comfortable about touchy subjects; these were both male and female and all were of the upper crust of the community [one was my boss] the one time that i used mx292 as a stand alone i was with my wife. she when into some deep talk about what she thinks might would turn me on the most in the bedroom and then talked about some of the kinky things that her girlfriends had told her. she hardly ever talks like this. later that night she drained me to the max that just like the very first time. i plan on using mx292 alone for a couple of days and ending the bottle with taa/and or shine. so far i’ve really liked it with a314. also i’m getting vibes [both self and from other’s] that mx292 can act on certain urges that are nomally hidden in our subconcious mind. i reguards to pherophreak 's ghosting i would guess that maybe it was the female magic that threw it off. but who knows sometimes i think that one person body chemistry can optimize a mix and someone else’s chemistry can negate the same mix. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/14 "2009-01-14T06:42:10Z")
> [@pherophreak](#): > > I agree with you, but I think you should know I’m not just a newbie throwing on whatever sounds good. That was a tried and proven mix–except I usually use Ammo instead of Mx292. That is the only substitution. I won’t be doing it again. Oh, if that’s a tried & true mix, then introducing this single variable (MX292) to something otherwise stable was actually a good experiment then. Good form. Carry on. 🙂 I think a main wildcard, though, could’ve been the androstadienone in IFM. That’s a really touchy molecule when it comes to it’s effects on other males. It’s almost always a good mix when you’re targets are female, but I’d really use it sparingly in any mix meant for an audience that includes men. There’s also a putative in MX292 that we have minimal data on. That’s a second wildcard. We know some things about it, but not enough to predict how it’ll interact with all other pheromones. Could be a clash somewhere in a mix that sprawling. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/15 "2009-01-14T07:03:32Z")
From what I have been reading about all the sex talk with this mix is the possibility of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in it? ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/16 "2009-01-14T10:22:08Z")
> [@tfrankz](#): > > From what I have been reading about all the sex talk with this mix is the possibility of P83 in it? From what I’ve read about it I’d think so, too! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/17 "2009-01-14T10:55:58Z")
Hm, I’ll take a wild guess and say that if the above is true this might be an AMMO test without the -none. It being replaced with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) if you guys are right about it possibly having P83. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/18 "2009-01-14T11:48:13Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Hm, I’ll take a wild guess and say that if the above is true this might be an AMMO test without the -none. It being replaced with P83 if you guys are right about it possibly having P83. i remember rumors a while aback about an ammo without none and replacing with p83 so who knows you can be onto somthing ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/19 "2009-01-14T13:44:55Z")
> [@denec](#): > > i remember rumors a while aback about an ammo without none and replacing with p83 so who knows you can be onto somthing Yeah, I had created a poll asking if the users would like to have an Ammo version with P83 instead of androstenone - especially for those people who have a hard time using androstenone… Would be cool if someone at Androtics would have used this idea! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860/20 "2009-01-14T18:00:05Z")
Thanks for the information! I’d say around 70% of the group was female, and I still had bad reactions from almost everyone. I had a thought– If this mix is indeed a disinhibitor, then the females who previously _might_ have liked me but never took the time to chat with me felt a sudden phero-boosted urge to talk to me and get to know me. That would explain the good hits, and the reason why it seems so hit/miss to me, but it wouldn’t explain the bad hits! I’ll continue to test the mix…hopefully with better results. Still have a little over half a bottle of Mx292 left. Should order some…it’s a fun product to test. Baseline thoughts: Mx292 is a social mone with some sort of attractant in it, **works to _build up_ a baseline attraction.** > [@Jasmin](#): > > Oh, if that’s a tried & true mix, then introducing this single variable (MX292) to something otherwise stable was actually a good experiment then. Good form. Carry on. 🙂 > > I think a main wildcard, though, could’ve been the androstadienone in IFM. That’s a really touchy molecule when it comes to it’s effects on other males. It’s almost always a good mix when you’re targets are female, but I’d really use it sparingly in any mix meant for an audience that includes men. > > There’s also a putative in MX292 that we have minimal data on. That’s a second wildcard. We know some things about it, but not enough to predict how it’ll interact with all other pheromones. Could be a clash somewhere in a mix that sprawling. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx292-hit-or-die-situation/24860.md?page=2)