# MX399 - More Questions than answers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 3, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058 "2011-07-03T15:14:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/1 "2011-07-03T15:14:31Z")
Not exactly sure just how to describe MX399. Perhaps saying its best used around drunk girls who have a daddy complex and need a strong man in their lives. Perhaps writing that if you want power and crave attention and respect it has a power complex associated with it. I could also classify it as something that pushes anyone with low confidence/esteem far away. Honestly though, in all fairness, I haven’t the slightest idea how to classify this one yet, or if it can even be classified at all. With the economy like it is and all I’ve been limiting my going out to a couple nights a week. So here’s a report of Friday and Saturday. Today I am going to a BBQ and pool party so if anything I’ll wear some raw power oil and A314. Friday it was pretty darn hot and we went down-town Memphis. My favorite location cut out all smoking as of Friday. I was surprised that the place wasn’t completely dead. What I was actually pondering was the point of having the big garage door style windows in the beer garden completely open even though it was in the 90’s! What the heck were they thinking but it was uncomfortable and hot. Not a good idea in the mist of humid summers of the south. Anyway there were lots of ladies and one thing you can depend on in the south is summer dresses. Man oh man 🙂. I’ll be the first to admit I have a problem. Yes I am addicted to women and proud of it, but I digress. So we sat on the couches with a few guy friends, one girlfriend who is very susceptible to mones and is a great litmus test for me. I can tell with her exactly what any new mix is supposed to do. To boot a female older relative of one friend was also in town. I didn’t get any different types of hits as far as more or less respect hits from the guys. If anything they were completely indifferent. I usually wear A314 around them though so it could be they were used to the signature already. I didn’t really get an ALPHA vibe from it as much as I got a back off and don’t bother me, no nonsense type of vibe. I can see how that could be ALPHA, but to me the alpha vibe is warm and charismatic. This spoke more aloofness. Now I have stopped drinking when I go out for a while now, but up until Friday it didn’t bother me to be in a bar. I actually enjoy gaming people when I have an upper hand 😉. However with MX399 I felt out of place like this was nonsense and a time waster. I did have a steady stream of regulars approach me and hug and kiss on me, but normally each lady friend will linger a bit. Friday was way different and they all just kinda remembered they needed to be off somewhere else and skedaddled. Even my litmus test when we were sitting on the couch moved so she sat on the arm-rest and had another guy sit between us. At that point I felt he was to close so I got a bar stool and sat on that. I did notice that drunk girls lingered and sought validation from me quite often. It was almost as if they needed this authority figure in their lives, but the paradox of MX399 is that its no nonsense so that would not occur and they left crushed. It has some conflicting properties to it, that’s for sure. Saturday I went to see the UFC fights at a private party. Some of the ladies present are ring girls for the local MMA circuit by friends run. I thought that maybe I was just growing bored of hanging in the bars so I’d give it another trial at a more intimate setting. I am pretty much an opportunist and usually seat myself so that a lady has to sit on either side or close by. I also strategically sit somewhere that I have a broad view of the locale in case I see something I like. Its a deliberate action I take to up the opportunity. However I found myself in a recliner, isolated from the main group and again with this no-nonsense I don’t want to bother with the peasants attitude. Well here’s the good news. I did have something hooked up with a certain someone afterwards. So when I left she also had to leave at the same time. Sometimes its better when no one knows your business but I suspect people do anyway 😉. So I called her when we both left and we met up. I decided that I wanted this to go in a different direction so I sprayed a shot of 1x IO and 1x spray of TUTH. It was only a few hours after application of 3 sprays of MX399. Whatever happened it did the trick and rounded it out a bit. It had that same intensity of I don’t have the time or patience of petty shit but it was definitely wild and crazy. That intensity turned sex into a masterful work of greatness. I wasn’t messing around with this girl and she was like holy shit SteveO what the hell are you on? Funny thing was on the phone she was almost making excuses not to meet-up. I wasn’t having that shit though and I demanded to see her. She is a beautiful girl who is very confident with herself. She knows she is hot and a model to boot. Afterwards she told me she wasn’t sure she wanted to fuck because she thought I wasn’t into it. Ha, me not into fucking! RIDICULOUS! OK so I wore 3 sprays on each application and haven’t actually got it figured out all the way yet. Seems to create a serious boundary and feedback tells me its effecting my mood as well. So far I’d say this is more of a perfect product for an interview or something similar. You are the no nonsense, lets get this done kind of guy. However you are not a team player as much as you are a team leader. If someone has low confidence they will avoid you like the plague. I wonder how it effects those wearers with low self-esteem? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/2 "2011-07-03T19:07:59Z")
Hmmm… Is MX399 a possible mx for a revision or alternative to A314? I haven’t ordered or used MX399 so far but on solely A314 or a lessly buffered mix of A314 and ammo I get the following effects that you claim “I felt out of place like this was nonsense and a time waster” and " However I found myself in a recliner, isolated from the main group and again with this no-nonsense I don’t want to bother with the peasants attitude". I know I’m supposed to become alpha or appear alpha with A314 on, but alot of times I become this no fun guy at the club and or people start asking why I’m looking “moody” or “emo” or “reclusive”, I just can’t be bothered and will just walk off in a corner and just watch people dance and or just feel that I’m wasting time. And that’s when I started to swap out A314 with mx297 or just wearing the socials with ammo to party. > [@Steve](#): > > Not exactly sure just how to describe MX399. Perhaps saying its best used around drunk girls who have a daddy complex and need a strong man in their lives. Perhaps writing that if you want power and crave attention and respect it has a power complex associated with it. I could also classify it as something that pushes anyone with low confidence/esteem far away. > > Honestly though, in all fairness, I haven’t the slightest idea how to classify this one yet, or if it can even be classified at all. With the economy like it is and all I’ve been limiting my going out to a couple nights a week. So here’s a report of Friday and Saturday. Today I am going to a BBQ and pool party so if anything I’ll wear some raw power oil and A314. > > Friday it was pretty darn hot and we went down-town Memphis. My favorite location cut out all smoking as of Friday. I was surprised that the place wasn’t completely dead. What I was actually pondering was the point of having the big garage door style windows in the beer garden completely open even though it was in the 90’s! What the heck were they thinking but it was uncomfortable and hot. Not a good idea in the mist of humid summers of the south. Anyway there were lots of ladies and one thing you can depend on in the south is summer dresses. Man oh man 🙂. > > I’ll be the first to admit I have a problem. Yes I am addicted to women and proud of it, but I digress. So we sat on the couches with a few guy friends, one girlfriend who is very susceptible to mones and is a great litmus test for me. I can tell with her exactly what any new mix is supposed to do. To boot a female older relative of one friend was also in town. I didn’t get any different types of hits as far as more or less respect hits from the guys. If anything they were completely indifferent. I usually wear A314 around them though so it could be they were used to the signature already. I didn’t really get an ALPHA vibe from it as much as I got a back off and don’t bother me, no nonsense type of vibe. I can see how that could be ALPHA, but to me the alpha vibe is warm and charismatic. This spoke more aloofness. > > Now I have stopped drinking when I go out for a while now, but up until Friday it didn’t bother me to be in a bar. I actually enjoy gaming people when I have an upper hand 😉. However with MX399 I felt out of place like this was nonsense and a time waster. I did have a steady stream of regulars approach me and hug and kiss on me, but normally each lady friend will linger a bit. Friday was way different and they all just kinda remembered they needed to be off somewhere else and skedaddled. Even my litmus test when we were sitting on the couch moved so she sat on the arm-rest and had another guy sit between us. At that point I felt he was to close so I got a bar stool and sat on that. > > I did notice that drunk girls lingered and sought validation from me quite often. It was almost as if they needed this authority figure in their lives, but the paradox of MX399 is that its no nonsense so that would not occur and they left crushed. It has some conflicting properties to it, that’s for sure. > > Saturday I went to see the UFC fights at a private party. Some of the ladies present are ring girls for the local MMA circuit by friends run. I thought that maybe I was just growing bored of hanging in the bars so I’d give it another trial at a more intimate setting. I am pretty much an opportunist and usually seat myself so that a lady has to sit on either side or close by. I also strategically sit somewhere that I have a broad view of the locale in case I see something I like. Its a deliberate action I take to up the opportunity. However I found myself in a recliner, isolated from the main group and again with this no-nonsense I don’t want to bother with the peasants attitude. > > Well here’s the good news. I did have something hooked up with a certain someone afterwards. So when I left she also had to leave at the same time. Sometimes its better when no one knows your business but I suspect people do anyway 😉. So I called her when we both left and we met up. I decided that I wanted this to go in a different direction so I sprayed a shot of 1x IO and 1x spray of TUTH. It was only a few hours after application of 3 sprays of MX399. Whatever happened it did the trick and rounded it out a bit. It had that same intensity of I don’t have the time or patience of petty shit but it was definitely wild and crazy. That intensity turned sex into a masterful work of greatness. I wasn’t messing around with this girl and she was like holy shit SteveO what the hell are you on? > > Funny thing was on the phone she was almost making excuses not to meet-up. I wasn’t having that shit though and I demanded to see her. She is a beautiful girl who is very confident with herself. She knows she is hot and a model to boot. Afterwards she told me she wasn’t sure she wanted to fuck because she thought I wasn’t into it. Ha, me not into fucking! RIDICULOUS! > > OK so I wore 3 sprays on each application and haven’t actually got it figured out all the way yet. Seems to create a serious boundary and feedback tells me its effecting my mood as well. So far I’d say this is more of a perfect product for an interview or something similar. You are the no nonsense, lets get this done kind of guy. However you are not a team player as much as you are a team leader. If someone has low confidence they will avoid you like the plague. I wonder how it effects those wearers with low self-esteem? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/3 "2011-07-03T19:28:35Z")
The one and only thing known is that MX399 has NO None in it. John made sure we all knew that so we knew it would be reasonably safe for work. Both A314 and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) contain some amounts of None in them. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/4 "2011-07-03T19:31:43Z")
I really hope it isn’t Johnny! If it is they have a looooong way to go and unfortunately would be taking a major step backwards. A314 has never given me the out of place feeling. More in lines of I’m bad-ass and I can rock anywhere. This is definitely not any type of A314 I would ever consider. Besides we have the 1.23B which for an alcohol version is pretty quick and efficient. The 1.23A shouldn’t even bear the A314 name. IMHO its more for attraction. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/5 "2011-07-03T19:44:23Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I really hope it isn’t Johnny! If it is they have a looooong way to go and unfortunately would be taking a major step backwards. A314 has never given me the out of place feeling. More in lines of I’m bad-ass and I can rock anywhere. This is definitely not any type of A314 I would ever consider. Besides we have the 1.23B which for an alcohol version is pretty quick and efficient. The 1.23A shouldn’t even bear the A314 name. IMHO its more for attraction. How do you figure that Steve, from what I understand version A is the same as version B just with a 50% higher concentration of mones, and version B is the same as the oil but in a faster alc base. I would think with such a high concentration PLUS the faster diffusion rate that version A would be Alpha Overdose and very unattractive. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/6 "2011-07-03T19:49:12Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > How do you figure that Steve, from what I understand version A is the same as version B just with a 50% higher concentration of mones, and version B is the same as the oil but in a faster alc base. > > I would think with such a high concentration PLUS the faster diffusion rate that version A would be Alpha Overdose and very unattractive. I’ve written some reports on it RAD. Most guys cannot get away with the A because every single guy congruency tests you every step of a way. From a logical standpoint the most alpha SOB just walked through the door they have ever seen. So yeah guys are going to be like why do I think this guy is the man when I never even spoken to him. Let me test him, which I can also see leading to confrontations if you cannot hold the part. On the other hand the most alpha man a woman has ever met just walked right through the door into her life. Emotionally speaking she is going to be like hmmm I have to meet him and see if this is possible. Show some alpha qualities and you’ll be banging her like a drum by nights end. Yes overbearing to guys, but with a little confidence melting to women.😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/7 "2011-07-03T19:50:59Z")
And that’s why it is drastically different from A314. With the oil or even the spray you can get away with faking it a bit. With the A version you need to be it or you are done for. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/8 "2011-07-03T19:58:18Z")
I read John’s post about his release of mx399, so when I read the reports of masculinity and alpha vibe, I postulated that this might be a variant without the none and or some parts inside were replaced, probably with putatives. Perhaps a product to offer a complete business perspective to it without a higher sexual tone, or probably an attempt to find a way to viably provide an alternative, maybe a cheaper and as effective version of A314One of my other guesses is that the stocking and surgence of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) along with the appearance of mx399 is no coincidenceP74 has not disappointed me so far. I’m picking up both P75 and mx399 next if/when my wallet allows ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/9 "2011-07-04T17:45:08Z")
Last night was Fucking crazy! Report to follow soon. I need to shake the funk out my brain first. Here’s a teaser though: On most guys HB scales she is easily a 9 with the personality to boot 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/10 "2011-07-04T18:16:24Z")
I’ve tested it with work situations and it worked marvelously for that. I haven’t gotten to test it in the social environments yet but I’m hoping I can do that sometime this week. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/11 "2011-07-04T21:51:43Z")
Don’t cocktease!! Spit it out!!!That sounded wrong.. ButSPILL IT!!! What happened? Solo use? Mixed use? > [@Steve](#): > > Last night was Fucking crazy! > > Report to follow soon. I need to shake the funk out my brain first. > > Here’s a teaser though: On most guys HB scales she is easily a 9 with the personality to boot 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/12 "2011-07-04T22:13:23Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I’ve tested it with work situations and it worked marvelously for that. I haven’t gotten to test it in the social environments yet but I’m hoping I can do that sometime this week. Well I work at home so nothing is going to happen there 🙂 > [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#): > > Don’t cocktease!! Spit it out!!!That sounded wrong.. ButSPILL IT!!! What happened? Solo use? Mixed use? Calm down Johnny. I had a hang-over from the three beers I drank. First time drinking in weeks (as in two)😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/13 "2011-07-04T22:27:04Z")
The one thing I discovered so far is its not very socially friendly this mix. It might work great in an office environment, but I don;t have one of those. Socially its kind of harsh and unpredictable. I went to a friends birthday party last night and on the way there I got caught in some type of shoot-out in Memphis. Apparently some idiot murdered someone and then a cop. So traffic was a freaking nightmare as the city went into lock-down. I do know, as noted in my first post on this, its a no nonsense, no time for BS type of mix. Well I was stuck in an endless loop of traffic and getting freaking furious. Which makes me wonder just how good it would be for work. I could see someone loosing their cool over trivial factors. Anyway when I finally got to the bar an hour late, I was greeted by about 10 friends half ladies that I did not meet prior. The mix has an edgy feel to it that makes people nervous and stand-offish in social situations. I mean nobody was really talking to me and it almost seemed like people would avoid eye contact. Seems a bit rough this one and for me needs refinement. I’m almost venturing to say this is a concept mix based on someones ideas of what an alpha leader should be like, without any real experience with the mones. Sorry if I offend anyone, but that’s the results I have been getting. We were leaving the bar for another and so before I was going to allow this to mess up my night (it was already 45 minutes of exposure and no play from girls at all). Actually one of the waitresses did lay a whole crap load of here problems my way! So before I got to the next bar I sprayed a shot of TUTH and 2 of IO. Now we are talking. Whatever it was it rounded it out a bit and while my jokes and natural gregarious attitude was still “off” I was now getting conversation and at least some smiles from the ladies. It wasn’t until my model friend came from the other side of the bar where 20 orbiters were swarming around her. She gave me a huge hug and kiss and was like save me, so I did. All of a sudden the social proof was there added with the other products and there was some play. I just will say it needs something else and to me it seems as if its based on molecules and not actual experience. I think it could be worked a little by adding in some more socials to round it out. I could have stayed away from the TUTH but I’m a guy and I want to get laid (which I did 😉) and added Ishine and IO for a better result. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx399-more-questions-than-answers/51058/14 "2011-07-06T13:57:53Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > The one thing I discovered so far is its not very socially friendly this mix. It might work great in an office environment, but I don;t have one of those. > > Socially its kind of harsh and unpredictable. I went to a friends birthday party last night and on the way there I got caught in some type of shoot-out in Memphis. Apparently some idiot murdered someone and then a cop. So traffic was a freaking nightmare as the city went into lock-down. I do know, as noted in my first post on this, its a no nonsense, no time for BS type of mix. Well I was stuck in an endless loop of traffic and getting freaking furious. Which makes me wonder just how good it would be for work. I could see someone loosing their cool over trivial factors. > > Anyway when I finally got to the bar an hour late, I was greeted by about 10 friends half ladies that I did not meet prior. The mix has an edgy feel to it that makes people nervous and stand-offish in social situations. I mean nobody was really talking to me and it almost seemed like people would avoid eye contact. Seems a bit rough this one and for me needs refinement. I’m almost venturing to say this is a concept mix based on someones ideas of what an alpha leader should be like, without any real experience with the mones. Sorry if I offend anyone, but that’s the results I have been getting. > > We were leaving the bar for another and so before I was going to allow this to mess up my night (it was already 45 minutes of exposure and no play from girls at all). Actually one of the waitresses did lay a whole crap load of here problems my way! So before I got to the next bar I sprayed a shot of TUTH and 2 of IO. Now we are talking. Whatever it was it rounded it out a bit and while my jokes and natural gregarious attitude was still “off” I was now getting conversation and at least some smiles from the ladies. It wasn’t until my model friend came from the other side of the bar where 20 orbiters were swarming around her. She gave me a huge hug and kiss and was like save me, so I did. All of a sudden the social proof was there added with the other products and there was some play. > > I just will say it needs something else and to me it seems as if its based on molecules and not actual experience. I think it could be worked a little by adding in some more socials to round it out. I could have stayed away from the TUTH but I’m a guy and I want to get laid (which I did 😉) and added Ishine and IO for a better result. While I got no self effects that I noticed I can say that I agree with it being socially harsh. I got respect…actually more like compliance and obedience but not with the same motivation and enthusiasm I get with A314. People do what I say but seem to resent me for it.