# MX432 reports: a sample that came with TUTH, and whether effects beat placebo

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [September 10, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821 "2011-09-10T21:05:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821/21 "2011-12-21T03:28:14Z")

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Ok, because of the error reported here:

> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/mx432-label-error-58717.html)**
>
> Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life

Here is an update for the actual Batch that I have:

**ZI290068**

I believe this is what JS was asking for… 🙂

Let me know if you need something else… 😃

> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> _ **MX 432** _  
> Following the ‘what to report’ suggestions from JS… with some story tellin’ in between…
> 
> **NOTE: Application was to tops of hands/wrist, one spray to each. 4 tests with these application points were done with those noted below being typical of the responses of this MX.**
> 
> • Strength - **How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself?**  
> I see the effects were immediate, that is within 20 seconds of application, I was getting the edges of my mouth pulled upward. It was a feeling of contentment, slight amusement at it’s effect, a kind of snugness about it. The strength of these effects was more than subtle, though not a slap to the face. More of a gentle shove… you will notice it, and turn and say, hmmm, what WAS that?  
> **On others?**  
> Within a minute of application, I could still notice the scent of freshness, purity, and slightly soapiness. I was approached by a ‘greeter’ in a supermarket. I was entering at the same time as 2 other shoppers, a woman was about 5 feet ahead of me, to my left and an older gentleman, mid 50’s(?), a few feet to my right and also ahead of me. The greeter focused on me and went through his shpeal on the specials of the day. He went on to include the benefits of a club membership with the store as I stood by listening fairly intently. I thanked him as he insisted I take the application and apply on checkout. I took it and continued into the store.
> 
> **(5 minutes from application time)**
> 
> While I was walking about, an Asian late 40’s woman was pushing her cart about 4 feet away. I was going toward my cart that was ahead of her so I walked by her. As I was overtaking her and she was to my left, 3 feet away, she turned toward me, then looked away. Immediately, snapped her head back at me and smiled which I smiled back and greeted her. It was the type of shock, like there was a big ‘ol zip on my nose was amazed to see it, that then broke down immediately to a friendliness like we knew each other for a while, like friends that haven’t seen each other is a couple of months. We spoke a bit as I grabbed my cart and then told her to bundle up as it was an unnaturally chilly afternoon.
> 
> **(Between 5 to 10 minutes application time)**
> 
> Other gal, at the fruit section, was cool when I was around as she appeared to be trying to concentrate on the produce in front of her. She was Caucasian, early 30’s. I walked passed her to get to the pears. No noticeable reactions.
> 
> **(@ 15 minutes from application time)**
> 
> A set of young girls, teenagers that were likely around 15, walked by me on another aisle as they were chatting. They walked behind me as I was looking for my spice items. As they slowed, one of the girls, quieted down and seemed to shut up to turn around and look in my direction. I looked toward them as they were about 8 to 10 feet away looking for some bags of chips. One of them was looking intently in my direction and I met her gaze and smiled at her. She nervously smiled, blushed a bit, and looked back at the shelves of chips, trying to hide herself in them. She giggled something to the other girl and the other one looked at me and giggled softly to the first one. They grabbed some bags of chips and walked off.
> 
> **(@20 minutes from application)**
> 
> I almost bumped into a woman that made a hard right turn in front of some shelves of bread. She apologized and I smiled and said something like, oh that’s alright, you can bump into me anytime… I needed someone to wake me up! She smirked slightly and continued on to the dairy section, I think.
> 
> **Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?**
> 
> It was more than subtle, though not a slap to the face. More of a gentle shove… you will notice it, and turn and say, hmmm, what WAS that?
> 
> • **Length of Effects - When did you notice onset of effects?**  
> Within 10 seconds.  
> **When did you notice the outset?**  
> In 4 tests, found that it would last 3 hours.
> 
> **When did it peak?**
> 
> At the ½ mark, it would seem to peak for me. Continued with similar hits up until hour 2.  
> **When did it wane?**
> 
> Hour 2 would begin to wane with about hour 3 being the cut off time.
> 
> • Tenacity - Tenacity refers to “staying power”, or the aggressiveness of the cologne.  
> Light in ‘staying power’, noticeable within 10 to 15 minutes of application, then, only noticeable occasionally as a sanitary, soapy scent. That 10 minute window of application, then, it wasn’t perceptible. I’d take a whiff on my wrists to see if I can still smell it. That would only be about 3 inches from my app point, and yes, I’d smell that soapy, almost antibacterial scent.
> 
> • **Effectiveness - How effective is this mix? Have its effects been consistent?**  
> The strength and tenacity points mentioned above have been consistent with 4 tries @ 2 sprays to the wrists.
> 
> • Diffusion/Sillage - Sillage refers to your “vapor trail”. **Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail?**
> 
> It would be about 2 to 3 meters with substantial drop effectiveness to complete ineffectiveness getting to 4 meters or more. The length of the vapor trail would be within 9 feet.
> 
> **Do people seem to follow your sillage?**
> 
> Only time that I noticed that this happened with a woman and her young son, walking through a store. I was looking at different breads on the shelves and as I moved off looking, they would follow, go around me, then follow me briefly as she was also looking at the shelves… Noticed because, she seemed distracted while looking and would seem to be observing my selections.
> 
> **End of Line.**

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821/22 "2012-01-03T13:02:21Z")

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MX432 available to purchase now for $9.95 in the shop.

More info here: [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/now-available-1-3-2012-stealth-58939.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/now-available-1-3-2012-stealth-58939.html)

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**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821/23 "2012-01-03T14:02:53Z")

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I have a question…and it might seem strange to ask..but…is this really _just_ TAA? I know the answer is yes, AND, I have never tried TAA before, but, I am on my last two sprays of this and after having tested this for awhile it definitely has a sexual “tinge” to it.

Most definitely not overt per se, but I’ve noticed too many things while wearing this around others that just don’t add up; in the sense that TAA is the base of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), yet, I do not get the same affects with TAA that I get with Shine, and vice versa.

What I mean is (forgive me, it’s 8:44am and I haven’t been to sleep yet. enjoying the last day of my vacation) Instant Shine gives me and others around me a noticeable “pick me up” boost…and thats about it.

This formulation of TAA however, is really “sticky” in close quarters, especially with women, but men too. (I’ve experienced no negative affects around guys with this) And conversations…turn sexual too often in the strangest of ways.

1. I was in a meeting with a group of people, and while the conversation started off innocent enough, it got onto lesbianism and such (one of the girls was a Femme, Age 34)

2. I was in the super market, and asked security where a product was. As he was showing me, his head almost broke off at this girls butt, and all he could do was talk about it for like 2 minutes…the thing is, her butt was “okay”, but not anything to go apeshit over. Really. (Age 45-50)

3. At a family dinner for Christmas (girlfriend’s fam), and the conversation over time got on porn and toys…3 women over 55, 2 28-33, 2 guys 31-35. Very odd with this group, not even talking about the holiday.

4. At a gas station, Indian woman, Age39, normally friendly, but prudish, was VERY unusually friendly and helpful. I was getting a beer and asked her if there was a smaller bottle, and she was like “drink some today and save the rest”, and then “you can drink that, two cups” like she was an expert, and I was like “ **You** drink beer?” To which she giggled and started blushing and smiling. I’m like gtfo, lol! Okay, this is not sexual at all, but funny to me.

5. Something I just forgot about, and when I remember, I’ll type it here.

6. Being cornered by an old lady (60?) and being talked to death after she eyed me up and down ( eww.)

7. My Girlfriends friends I met at a holiday party were eyeing me and giggling and one gave my GIRL a look like “Yeah!, Good job”. I am handsome, but it was so blatant I was shocked. I mean, in front of her, before she even turned to my girl.

Now I’m not a Dumba\*\*, and I know people talk about sex all the time, but these and others were just weird occurrences to me, and fun, lol

Random thoughts. Off to bed 😛

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**Author:** ![Laguna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@Laguna](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Laguna)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821/24 "2012-02-20T15:35:36Z")

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Testing MX432 for the first time

**Mix:**  
MX432 - 4 sprays (1 on each side of neck and 1 on each top of wrist).

**Location / Situation / Time:**  
At work in the afternoon around 3 PM indoors at 70 F.

**Self-Effects / Current State:**  
Doesn’t seem to have immediate effects. The smell is a bit overpowering now though. Feeling a little light headed, not dizzy though! Smells like soap or cleaning solution.

**Effects On Others:**  
Nothing to report yet - will update. Maybe someone will ask if I just showered.

Update - I never noticed any hits based on this. Either I wasn’t fully aware of my surroundings or it didn’t work as I expected.

**Report:**  
Just making notes for now. Will update.

Update - I didn’t use a cover scent. I actually wanted to see if the solution by itself would work… Hence the stealth diffusion.

**Conclusion:**  
Just making notes for now. Will update.

Update - I think I will try this again another time when I have the chance.

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**Author:** ![soraflair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@soraflair](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soraflair)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821/25 "2012-03-15T09:11:11Z")

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**3/12/2012** (Copied from MX432 thread.)  
**Age** 21  
**Enviornemnt** School  
**Build** Slender a little muscular (I work out a lot)

Well I applied 1X Spray right before I went to school, some self effects I became incredibly irratable when I wasn’t doing anything productive

Anyway, I was very attentive in my first class. (Raising my hand frequently, paying attention.) I am typing this during my break bewtween classes. I have gotten three written assignments done already within the past hour. (Which is usualy good, because i’d probably be distracted with a bunch of other BS right now. )

I don’t have much else to do, but when I am not doing anything I become incredibly irratible. (Just noticed this as I am writing this) When I am doing something I am more focused than normal, but I get the “screeching on the chalk board effect” when i’m not doing something productive. I’ll probably go out to eat to keep myself busy after I finish writting this.

This irratability might have something to do with my age, maybe I become restless, because I don’t enjoy being this focused on my work?

Tomorow i’ll apply two of these for my math class, and report back after.

Update:  
**3/15/2012**  
Status all same ; Except I applied 2X sprays of this

Well it happened again. I just got more frustrated when I wasn’t doing anything productive. Although this time I seemed to get a little bit more of respect from my teachers. I went to speech class and she presumed I was very attentive. When I did ask a question she went pretty far in depth into the answer. (As if I would be able to understand what she was going to in depth about..)  
Aside from that, no negative or positive reactions from close friends, no odd looks from passing girls. I did notice that I hated the smell / or lack of there of. I spent an extra hour studding after class, just because I had nothing else to do between classes.

Nothing to big to report really. (Again this was all i was wearing.)

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**Author:** ![Pedrucho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pedrucho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pedrucho)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821/26 "2012-04-20T11:15:11Z")

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I am sorry I did not post my experience with MX432 sooner, but I just got to tested since I got it. I ordered several mones that I had forgotten about MX432. Ok, I used it along by itself and the results were very possitive. People around me seen to be really, really nice, this happened with both men and women. I am glad I tried it.

Day 1: MX432 1 spay to the neck.  
In my job I deal with customers all the time, and some can be very difficult at times. As soon as I put this on, I went to deal with a customer, and she was the niciest person, she told me that I smelled really good and asked me for the name of what I was wearing (I told her it was a gift and I could not recall the name of it).

The effecect lasted about three hours, and peple had a reaction to it, from about 10 ft around me.

Day 2. MX432 2X neck and wrist.  
I went to class and everyone seem to have their full attention on me, which is not common for people to do that. I love the possitive feed back from others. Latter I when shoping (I reapplied 1X to the neck) and everyone at the stores I visitied where really nice. One lady told me that I had beutiful eyes. I cannot get over the amazing reaction from people.

Day 3. MX432 2X neck and wrist.  
I had to go to a family event and see people that I had seen in some time. As soon I got to the event, I stated to get possitive comments on how good I looked etc. I was asked to be in every picture, it was funny because I never get this kind of attention not even from my family.

When I use MX432, I feel in a good mood, I feel like I know I am the center of attention.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![mikelspencr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikelspencr/32/1862_2.png) [@mikelspencr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikelspencr)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx432-reports-a-sample-that-came-with-tuth-and-whether-effects-beat-placebo/52821/27 "2011-10-12T04:59:42Z")

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Day 1 testing results…copied straight from an emailed memo from my phone

> [@](#):
>
> Mx432 10-11-11  
> 3:12 pm initial spray. Barely noticed, but there is a slight rubbing alcohol scent when I smelled my wrists directly.  
> Application:: one spray on wrists rubbed together, one on left side of esophogus rubbed across with wrists.  
> Self effects::: it’s now 328pm and I’m more talkative… Finding it more difficult to quiet down. Reminds me of instant openness.
> 
> A314 5:31pm. Sprayed a314a one on wrists, one on neck, one on hair. Realizing that I sparyed one too many but testing the reactions. I feel really confident… Natural self effect. My prescense is definitely noticed within a 5 foot range. 5:53pm Stopped by a jeweler in the mall. I’m not dressed professionally… Simple aeropostale shirt, jeans, skate shoes. At first I was brushed off, but after 30 seconds, the lady turned friendly towards me. Talked and wanted to get me hooked up with a watch valued at 3k. And after talked a bit, ofered to take off a thousand. Went to my poker game at a bar, and got a DIHL look from a few of the regulars who played with me before. Simply because I had a different signature.. More confident, perhaps? So, I had gotten here late, and was short-stacked (meaning, they took some chips because I was late). After the 314/432 mix managed to get around, they trusted my bluffs (fake raises) and I came up.

i am home now, planning on showering to get the phero off… will report in a few minutes how my cousin (my roommate) felt around me with the pheros on. She’s never experienced them, especially on me, so we shall learn.

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