# MX436 as a free sample: several days at work, a strong alcohol smell at first

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx436-as-a-free-sample-several-days-at-work-a-strong-alcohol-smell-at-first/53831>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [November 20, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx436-as-a-free-sample-several-days-at-work-a-strong-alcohol-smell-at-first/53831 "2011-11-20T00:57:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx436-as-a-free-sample-several-days-at-work-a-strong-alcohol-smell-at-first/53831/1 "2011-11-20T00:57:49Z")

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**What is MX440?**

**MX440** : Part of Stealth Diffusion Mix Pack Vol 1 (or 2).

We are working out different components of the Stealth Diffusion Technology. The feedback you provide us by testing this mix today will inform how we put together the [fragrance-free pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products of tomorrow… Pheromone products you can wear completely incognito, but will still fill a room and lead all noses to the celebrity in the room: you!

The mix itself is one molecule, TAA , which is the primary component of our bestselling mix, Instant Shine . It’s light and social, and you can wear it just about anywhere, from daytime to nighttime, both male and female.

**Status:** Not Currently in Production

**Request MX440 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**PS: SEE THIS POST - [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/mx432-label-error-58717.html#post452914](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/mx432-label-error-58717.html#post452914)**

> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
>
> Uh oh, we dun goofed.
> 
> This past weekend, our formulator noticed a tiny error in our database, which went on to accidentally print MX432 on two different Stealth Diffusion Test MXs.
> 
> Ah, we knew the day would come where we accidentally printed the same MX number on two different MXs, so fortunately we were prepared!! Since the bottles were batched on different dates, you can refer to their Batch and Lot #s to identify which is which.
> 
> The MX432 that has Batch # Z **I** 12721K, (working on finding the Lot #s)
> 
> and
> 
> The MX432 that has Batch # Z **K** 21721K (working on finding the Lot #s)
> 
> From now on, we’re going to refer to MX432 Batch Z **K** 21721K as MX436, and MX432 Batch Z **I** 12721K as MX432. Let’s all check our MX432s and change our text accordingly PLEASE. This is SUPER IMPORTANT and I will LOVE YOU FOREVER FOR IT.
> 
> Still trying to figure out when each one went out specifically but I’ll update this post when we figure it out.
> 
> JUST TO RECAP:
> 
> Z **K** 21721K == MX436  
> Z **I** 12721K == MX432
> 
> Sorry for any inconvenience, folks!
> 
> John Sebastian
> 
> PS: As always, here’s an apologetic kitten photo…
> 
> [http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/yupko/a-fatal-error-has-occurred-please-s.jpg](http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/yupko/a-fatal-error-has-occurred-please-s.jpg)

**How to Test:**  
Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

**Strength** - How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness& Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx436-as-a-free-sample-several-days-at-work-a-strong-alcohol-smell-at-first/53831/2 "2011-12-05T19:24:15Z")

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So I received some complimentary MX436 with my first order (of A314 oil & IS x1 30ml) I’ve been finding my feet with the A314 & IS for a couple of weeks & following a day off I have spent the last 3 days testing the MX436.

**METHOD**  
I have tried to follow the protocol set out in these testing threads as best I can….  
I was Phero free the day before I started. I have applied MX436 on its own, only once per day in the morning, no refreshing later on.  
As I have limited experience with most of the products, the only thing I am really comparing MX436 to is [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/).

**APP POINTS & DOSAGE**  
I have been applying 2 sprays to the neck

**STRENGTH**  
With IS I have definitely felt a bit of a rush when first applying, I didn’t get that effect with MX436.  
The self effects were less pronounced than IS, effect on others was noticeable, about the same degree as a similar dosage of IS.

**LENGTH**  
Only about 2 hours of noticeable effect on others. Effect kicked in by 15 mins of application, hard to say when it peaked, but was definitely gone by 2 hours.

**TENACITY**  
When I first applied I was a bit concerned that it smelt quite strong. This obviously died down after about 10 mins of evaporation. The scent was still stronger than IS for the duration of the effect but not such that anyone else noticed / commented.

**EFFECTIVENESS**  
The effects are a bit less consistent than IS, although some of that may have been down to the type of effect (ie. A little more awkward, therefore people suppressed their reactions a bit more)

**DIFFUSION**  
I feel this bit of my report is not too reliable, need more testing, but, effect appeared to be quite a bit more localised than IS, maybe only an 8’ range around me.

**ENVIRONMENT**  
At work for all 3 days.  
Temperature range 50-70?C.  
Mainly around people a knew fairly well.

**MY SUBJECTIVE ANALYSIS**  
The effect of MX436 appeared to encourage friendliness / closeness but without much context.  
Compared to IS, peoples reactions felt very slightly more awkward (I naturally diffuse anything weird or awkward so may have influenced people a bit in doing that)  
I work in a pretty informal industry but I had a couple of slightly inappropriate bromantic gestures from guys while wearing the MX436 (a hug where a handshake would have been normal)  
A found a few people to be certainly more friendly than usual but not as over chatty as with IS, so interactions were more concise.

**IN SUMMARY**  
It won’t replace IS for me, but nothing terrible happened & I will continue to try MX 436 out.

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**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx436-as-a-free-sample-several-days-at-work-a-strong-alcohol-smell-at-first/53831/3 "2012-03-21T11:19:34Z")

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**UPDATE…**

Following another 3 days of just the MX436 at work the smell doesn’t seem to linger so long (maybe I’m just getting used to it) Very intense alcohol for the first few mins still. Effects are still really only lasting 2 hours max.  
Anyway, having upped the dose to 2 sprays to the neck & 1 shared between the wrists, I’ve had a marked increse in noticable reactions.  
Almost every person I have talked to in the last 3 days has made some sort of physical contact with me. Mainly touching of arm or shoulder but one female colleague I was having a work conversation with, as we walked away from each other rubbed her arm & hand across my stomach. It took me a second to register it and as I turned and looked back she looked very embarassed, I just smiled.  
A few male co workers have found themselves slightly closer to me than normal, noticed and moved themselves away a little, quite fun as it knocks people off guard a little 🙂

Got a serious client meeting tomorrow, so I’ll be back on the drop of A314 + 2s of IS, been working really well but I’m going to order some IH as an alternative buffer at work. I know it has been said on here before, but I wish there was an all day lasting social to buffer the A314 that lasted as long.
