# My 1st experience with A314. Fighting with friends!

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**Category:** A314 Insider's Club\
**Created:** [November 14, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878 "2008-11-14T04:57:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daniel)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/1 "2008-11-14T04:57:49Z")

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Tonight was the first time I have used A314. I went out to see folk band and I ended up spending most of my time having coversations with two of my best friends. Their reactions to my phero signature were certainly not condusive to good rapport.

One of my friends made it quite clear that he felt that I was some how displaying a “holier than thou” attitude which I then unwittingly took offence to, 😮 forgetting of course that I was wearing “holier than thou” pheros. I endend up bickering with him and considered mixing my fist with his cheeky mouth. Thankfully there was no fighting, he spent the rest of the night trying to gain my approval, it was horrible.

My other friend kept awkwardly justifying himself during our conversations and clearly felt as though I was some how judging his decisions and points of view 😕 . I literally had to say to him more than once, words like “hey man i’m not judging you here at all”. This was actually my _best_ friend whom iv known for 17 years and who i regularly debate and explore challenging ideas with. Of course by this time I recognised that my friend were responding to my phero signature, but still I could get no rapport with my friends boo hoo!!!

Although the evening was not so great becaus i couldnt spark with my friends, this experience was still very valuable, it has helped me really understand what this phero does. People seem to feel that you are ‘above’ them in some way and have a higher value than they do. Of course our closest friends within a social enviroment may begin to feel a little bit inadequet while interacting with you. But the real problems occur when your friends are interacting with eachother within your presence because then arguments can occur as nobody wants to lose face.

So Anyway my conclusion is that, A314 is just how they all said it was, powerfull stuff that has people responding to you as though you have a higher value. The thing that i didnt anticipate was how different people can react and feel about your status. Sure its attractive to some peope or it inspires compliance in others, or prehaps awe. However it can also provoke insecurities. This product needs to be used with skill I think, you really have to be aware of you behavior so as to get the reactions you want from people. I have doubt as to weather I’ll want to use this on friends nights out again, but I may do just for the sake of experimentation for a little while.

After all this is said, I must also say that I am actually really impressed with this stuff, im looking forward to using it in different situations and seeing how fits on me.

Thats all for now.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/2 "2008-11-14T22:01:49Z")

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How old are you and how much did you use? Perhaps using less and giving them time to get used to the “new you” would work.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/3 "2008-11-14T23:07:40Z")

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> [@Daniel](#):
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> This product needs to be used with skill I think, you really have to be aware of you behavior so as to get the reactions you want from people. I have doubt as to weather I’ll want to use this on friends nights out again, but I may do just for the sake of experimentation for a little while.

The fact that you caught on to that so quickly is good. Not many people ever really see that, thinking A314 will get the job done for them.

If you want rapport, I highly suggest [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). Sounds like it might be right up your alley.

Other than that, Mtnjim has already asked about the relevant information.

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**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/4 "2008-11-15T02:23:42Z")

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Mind to share what dosages did u put on and your age ?

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**Author:** ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daniel)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/5 "2008-11-15T20:39:37Z")

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Im 30, I used 1 drop split between both sides of the neck and another drop split between the wrists. I believe that I do prehaps already display the attributes of the so called ‘alpha male’ within my social circle. This extra push using A314 meant that I needed to behave in a very tactful manner around friends and really be aware of how I phrase my words tone of voice and oppinions when talking to them. Theres no sense in creating a situation where friends feel inferia.

Having said all this, I do think that I can still use A314 around friends just as long as I careful to alter my behaviour so as not to come across as the big shot who loves himself. I think you can actually get alot of respect with this product if you behave in a very humble manner.

To be honest I dont really have any intentions to use pheros to aid with my long term established frienships, those relationships are already very well balanced and best left uncontrived. But rather, I am interested in experimenting with how they can enhance my social interactions with less familiar people.

I often have to interact with many people within highly social environments because of the career I have chosen and in many cases it is essencial to create an impression of high value amongst the people I interact with.

I do have experience with the Instant Openess product which is a personal favorite.

thanks

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**Author:** ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daniel)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/6 "2008-11-15T21:07:43Z")

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Im 30 and I used 1 drop split between both sides of the neck and another drop split between both wrists.

After further using this product I think that I can use it around friends as long as I adjust my behavior accordingly. I need to be sure to keep a check on the way I phrase my words my tone of voice and how I articulate my opinions. Taking care not imply an overbearing attitude of superiority. Rather, I have found that if I assume a very humble deminor then I am granted added respect and trust is created.

I have read many reports on this forum of people saying how we need to be able to display very confident attitude when using A314. this advice may be sound, but I wonder what it is that people define as confidence? For me being cocky with confidence can cause more trouble than its worth. Im not out hear trying to prove to everyone that Im the head boy, or create negitive feelings of envy or inferiority amongst my peers.

If confident be haviour means acting in a warm and relaxed mannor being courtious and supportive of others then I whole heartedly agree, act with confidence.

After all the word confidence is derived from the word ‘Confide’, and to confide in someone means to extend your trust to that person. Therefore to have confidence means to have the trust of your peers or alternatively to to have trust and faith in yourself.

If indeed you really do have faith in yourself then you have nothing to prove and thus no reason to act in a challenging manner. We would more likely behave in a relaxed and warm supportive mannor toward others.

I believe that this is the most benificial way to behave whilst using A314.

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/7 "2008-11-15T23:23:08Z")

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Yeah, I think A314 is quite a flexible mix really depending on how you act with it; there are many different ways even one individual can be congruent with it. You could act in a “professional”, “aloof” and “superior” manner with strangers/at the workplace if you needed to do so in order to get a job done or get some quick compliance, and wearing the same dose you can act in a “warm”, “accommodating” and “hospitable” way with your friends/at a social event. And the A314 will work for both situations.

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**Author:** ![ja391](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@ja391](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ja391)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-1st-experience-with-a314-fighting-with-friends/22878/8 "2008-11-19T05:33:46Z")

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Knowing that A314 seems to give off the vibe of high status, you should be aware of the different ways people can perceive you depending on how you act. These are:

A.)Stand-offish and stuck up (in a social situation)

People will see you this way if you aren’t really talking, giving short answers, keeping to yourself, not smiling, etc. That’s why A314 will sort of backfire on someone who is shy and uncomfortable. People will misperceive his shyness as him being stuck up.

Of course, acting this way where the situation dictates it (a busy workplace) can simply be seen as professional and aloof just as ntk23 stated.

B.)Arrogant and overbearing (ie. Authoritarian)

This seems to be what your friends saw you as. If you are highly opiniated, or have a slightly argumentative or competitive nature then these will be amplified and you may come off as overbearing.

C.)Accommodating, Confident, Competant (ie Authoritative)

Generally, this is the way you want others to perceive you. And obviously, you acheive this by acting the opposite of options A & B. To avoid the “stuck up” perception, you enjoy yourself, act extravertedly, (is that a word? lol) be friendly to others etc. And to avoid the “holier than thou” attitude, you try to take other’s viewpoints in account without overly interjecting your own opinions. Of course, you can still state your own opinions. Just be aware on how you do it.

As you stated, when you’re truly confident with yourself you have nothing to prove. Thus you have no reason to challenge others unless their actions or words cause damage to yourself or others you care about. When you’re congruent with this attitude, A314 helps one truly exude this status, and others will respect you and be happy to have you around.

Oh yeah, and you may have simply just used too much. In this case, you may come off as A or B no matter how friendly and accomodating you acted.
