# My A314 experience

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111 "2012-04-01T12:02:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/1 "2012-04-01T12:02:55Z")

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Recently I have been introduced to a completely new office environment. The people working there are relatively young and the atmosphere is quite relaxed. I started the first day without any mones to establish a baseline for myself and with regard to the people working there.

Then I began to use 1 drop A314 solo for about 3-4 days. I was treated respectfully yet I did not get to know any of the people working in the office, there was clearly a standoffish vibe going on. However, I had some great hits, too. Another new guy in the office commented that “…your work seems to be very important to the company.” One girl in the office made up excuses to be near me but then fell completely silent when she was close to me. One day I was standing at the station about to buy a ticket, when a stranger comes up to me out of nowhere and gives me a spare unused ticket for free.

Later on I applied 2 drops solo for a couple of days but stopped quickly because people would not look me in the eyes anymore - it was way too harsh on its own. I added 2 sprays of mx429 one day to no effect. Next I went back to 1 drop and added 2 sprays IH but the situation did not improve much. 2 sprays of mx429(taa) also had no effect.

Then I found two combinations that work beautifully for me. When I combined 1drop A314 with 1 spray of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) I get respect but also a lot of friendliness at the same time. It was then that I began to actually get to know the people there - I had some nice conversations and friendly working relationships started to develop. This combo also led to a lot of smiles and flirting from the girls in the office.

The other combo is 1 drop A314 with 2 sprays of mx436(taa). It inspired a weird mix of authority and fun - people were super-friendly, respectful yet joking around with me all the time. I would get approached all day with people just asking “hey what’s up?” and quickly laughter would ensue. This is a great combination that I’m planning to try while going out as well.

Although I rarely get self-effects, I did experience some of what others on the forum have reported. Standing taller, better focus, less self-talk and being more assertive are the primary effects which did get stronger with 2 drops. However, at that dose I also noticed that unconsciously my facial muscles would clench and be very tense. It was almost like a grimace and although I would stop it as soon as I noticed, it would return quickly. This was a negative by-product that keeps me from wearing too much A314 as well. Although others on the forum regularly use 3 and 4 drops, my sweet spot is definitely at 1 - if I want to wear 2 I’ll have to make sure to buffer it well with a lot of socials.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/2 "2012-04-03T11:14:48Z")

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Right on the A314 product page it emphatically states to lower the strong presence of A314 you could use a spray of IO 😉. Keep in mind your new co-workers are getting used to the new guy and A314 sets you apart as the leader of the pack. In time you will notice them getting closer and closer and more open to you.

Sounds like you already got it covered though. Great insights!

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**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/3 "2012-04-03T14:06:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The other combo is 1 drop A314 with 2 sprays of mx436(taa). It inspired a weird mix of authority and fun - people were super-friendly, respectful yet joking around with me all the time. I would get approached all day with people just asking “hey what’s up?” and quickly laughter would ensue. This is a great combination that I’m planning to try while going out as well.

I have used this mix at work a few times and although I prefer 1d A314 2s IS, I definately concur with your experience above, I’ve had some hilarious encounters with that combo. The A314 still gives me the authority to stop others joking around when I need to.

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> However, at that dose I also noticed that unconsciously my facial muscles would clench and be very tense. It was almost like a grimace and although I would stop it as soon as I noticed, it would return quickly

This is the first reference to the clenching face muscles I have read on here but I have noticed this too. Only slightly & it hasn’t been a problem but I can feel it. I have settled on a sweet spot of 1.5d (which isn’t that convienient to dose) with 2 drops I can definately feel my jaw tighten. (It kind of reminds me of taking Ecstacy, 20 years ago!)

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**Author:** ![Seeusmile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Seeusmile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seeusmile)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/4 "2012-04-03T19:12:56Z")

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I had the same thing with, I was approached by a girl in my class asking for help and after i responded she went standoff ish mode and went silent.

She went from friendly to all of a sudden like ‘Woe i better not bother this person’

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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/5 "2012-04-22T21:58:06Z")

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I have been experimenting more with A314 in varying combinations and found something interesting.

Usually when I wear Alpha at whatever dose girls 25 and younger either completely ignore me or are strongly intimidated. However, the other day I was wearing 2 drops Alpha + 2s Ammo when I added 10 mcg TAC to the combo. I know A314 + TAC do not seem to naturally go together but I repeatedly got some blatant hits from young girls that day. Two girls in their late teens who were sitting next to me on the train gave me some loving looks/DIHLs. A few minutes later they started to wonder about something and then both looked at me basically drawing me into their conversation. Another very beautiful girl in her early/mid 20s that I had an interaction with later was very attracted and she expressed it as well. All day I was getting IOIs much more than usual.

I will have to look into it further, but so far adding TAC to A314/AMMO resulted in the elimination of the “old guy vibe”, opening up A314 to a younger target group while losing little of its original signature.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/6 "2012-04-23T15:16:38Z")

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With younger women, not quite used to associating with high-power men (most guys in their age group just like to chase pussy and drink or smoke). Its why when you start a conversation with those types of younger girls you need to keep it going. They feel special when you interact with them but as such only feel you worthy after some time. If you stop associating with them they will appreciate you did talk to them but understand they just weren’t at your level. You will discover that when you keep talking to them they break through their personal limitations and insecurities and then you have the fallout or stalker effect. They learn to love it so much they don’t want to lose it. Nice observations 🙂. Do some searching on A314 stalking or fallout and you’ll see many of us have experienced similar effects.

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**Author:** ![JJ54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@JJ54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JJ54)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/7 "2012-04-23T19:45:42Z")

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> [@CorLeonis](#):
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> I have been experimenting more with A314 in varying combinations and found something interesting.
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> Usually when I wear Alpha at whatever dose girls 25 and younger either completely ignore me or are strongly intimidated. However, the other day I was wearing 2 drops Alpha + 2s Ammo when I added 10 mcg TAC to the combo. I know A314 + TAC do not seem to naturally go together but I repeatedly got some blatant hits from young girls that day. Two girls in their late teens who were sitting next to me on the train gave me some loving looks/DIHLs. A few minutes later they started to wonder about something and then both looked at me basically drawing me into their conversation. Another very beautiful girl in her early/mid 20s that I had an interaction with later was very attracted and she expressed it as well. All day I was getting IOIs much more than usual.
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> I will have to look into it further, but so far adding TAC to A314/AMMO resulted in the elimination of the “old guy vibe”, opening up A314 to a younger target group while losing little of its original signature.

I can attest that A314 does have a lingering effect on younger women, especially in combo with another unique [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) like A1. Like Steve said it’s the intereactions with younger women that wins them over and the longer you spend time with them the more exposed they are to your signature, which then allows them to be more comfortable with you and before you know it you too will have a fallout affect thanks to A314. I have yet to experience the fallout affect, but definitely wouldn’t mind working towards it 😃 lol.

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**Author:** ![JJ54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@JJ54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JJ54)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/8 "2012-04-24T10:22:13Z")

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I’m currently running a test today with Ammo and A314, with some A1 along with them. Will report about it later in my journal today.

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**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/9 "2012-04-24T11:35:05Z")

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I’ve experienced the fall out effect bluntly from three girls.

Each instance I was wearing A1 at 25mcg, 2 drops a314, 30mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), and IS.

I’ve been trying to develop more introverted tendencies as of late, taking time to enjoy quieter things and more solitary activities. I’ve found that I still can be very witty and funny but with much more pointed phrases.

I try and maintain a cool, calm, and collected demeanor while wearing a314. I love watching the girls get super comfortable while being close. I love how girly girls get when they’re around someone they perceive as strong.

Edit: If you can get good at MBTI typing theory and identifying it in other people, you can easily use mones to speed up the seduction process. I’m an ENFP, the three girls are ESFP, ENFJ, and INTJ. In terms of attraction the INTJ fell the hardest, next up was the ENFJ, followed by the ESFP.

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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/10 "2012-04-24T12:04:07Z")

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I have got to get myself some A1 to try with A314 - it should be even better than TAC. And thanks for your insights on the younger generation everyone.

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**Author:** ![JJ54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@JJ54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JJ54)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/11 "2012-04-24T17:44:45Z")

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Just finished testing out Ammo and A314 together and I have to say that these two are very potent. The story is posted in my journal.

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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/12 "2012-05-31T13:58:38Z")

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I just want to give an update on my experience with A314.

The other day I was wearing 1d A314 + 2s mx436(TAA) and had an amazing hit. There is a very beautiful girl in her early 20s that every now and then rides on the same train as I do. My friend has often commented how gorgeous she is and how he would like to get to know her. This time she was sitting in her seat looking ahead while my friend was sitting in the row behind her. I was seated a row behind her but to the right and talking to my friend, so I was kinda looking in her direction. She had to actually turn around and look over her shoulder to check me out. Well she couldn’t control herself because she checked me out and looked me deep in the eyes 9-10 times during a 30 minute ride. That was no quick glance or fleeting IOI - she was strongly attracted and showing it.

However, much more profound is something else I have been noticing. These days I am still wearing 1d A314 + IS/TAA to work everyday and adding 1s AMMO when I know I’ll be around girls I might be interested in. I used to wear mones almost exclusively on the weekends but now that I’m wearing A314 five days a week, I notice that I have actually become more of an A314 persona. It has been subtle in some aspects and more obvious in others, but I definitely notice more confidence, assertiveness and charisma even when I’m not wearing mones at all. I used to read on this forum that Alpha is a life-changer but I could not really believe or imagine it. Well, yesterday I sat down next to a very pretty girl, started to talk to her, flirted with her for half an hour, got her phone number and went on my way - all without wearing mones. Normally I would feel “naked” without them and would not be able to pull it off or not as smoothly as I did but recently I have felt so confident and self-assured that it was a breeze and I attribute that to A314.  
At work I have developed a confidence and natural authority that management has treated me and declared me as one of their own although I have worked there for a mere three months. It has been an amazing time and A314 has played an important role in that transformation.

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**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/13 "2012-05-31T22:14:30Z")

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That’s an awesome post CorLeonis. It’s great to hear about the affects on your life.

While I haven’t been publishing a journal yet, because I’d like to get better at reading and picking up on human behaviour, my experience is very similar to yours. There’s a lot of talk about the importance of congruency, but when I wasn’t congruent the affects mones had on others started a snowball effect, where _someone_ would show interest, giving me a bit more confidence, then that made me more congruent, thus getting more hits, which then fed my confidence more.

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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/14 "2012-08-06T13:07:50Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> With younger women, not quite used to associating with high-power men (most guys in their age group just like to chase pussy and drink or smoke). Its why when you start a conversation with those types of younger girls you need to keep it going. They feel special when you interact with them but as such only feel you worthy after some time. If you stop associating with them they will appreciate you did talk to them but understand they just weren’t at your level. You will discover that when you keep talking to them they break through their personal limitations and insecurities and then you have the fallout or stalker effect. They learn to love it so much they don’t want to lose it. Nice observations 🙂. Do some searching on A314 stalking or fallout and you’ll see many of us have experienced similar effects.

This is exactly what happened to me the other day. I was wearing A314 solo and while I was riding the train two very pretty and young girls came along the aisle. I smiled at them and the blonde smiled back at me and they had already passed by me when she said “let’s sit here!” pointing back to the row I was sitting in. So the blonde sat next to me and the brunette was facing me. They were quiet for a few minutes when I started to talk to them and they were visibly happy that I did.  
We had a nice conversation but I had to keep it going every time. They would happily talk about everything but when they finished talking they just went quiet until I asked another question or made another comment - it was a little weird. However, during the conversation I noticed they were using very respectful language (similar to saying “Sir”) which implied they viewed me as quiet old - I am friends with a lot of people that are much younger than me and this never happens. So unless you buffer it with taa or other socials A314 projects not just respect and status but also age.

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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/15 "2012-10-31T12:02:01Z")

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I wanted to give an update on my experiences with A314 at the workplace. I have recently been promoted to a position just below management, a kind of chief of staff if you will, without me asking for it or even mentioning it. Those in charge believe that I am indispensible for the company and I have also received financial benefits in the process, so if AD tells you that A314 will be worth 10 times what you paid for it, well - they’re not kidding 🙂 Although I certainly have been doing some good work, the aura of competence and authority has been invaluable in achieving that position. I have been wearing 1 drop on the chin every workday since I started in that company, which I have determined to be my sweet-spot. One day I had a meeting with my boss (who is very smart and capable) while wearing two drops of A314. We had been discussing a solution to a problem and a colleague had an opinion which he talked about. My boss did not agree with him at all. However, when I supported my colleague and gave the same opinion, my boss suddenly changed his position and argued as if he had always thought that way - and he usually has a strong personality. It was quite amazing to see the kind of influence you have with A314.

A few weeks ago a young woman in her early 20s started in our office and was a little intimidated by me at first. Although she glanced over a lot, she did not initiate conversation with me. I began to walk to her place frequently to talk and let her have repeated exposure to the mones. I then started adding Ammo, SE Ammo and Shine to my wrists and that’s when she got comfortable around me. Now we hang out a lot at work and even went out for post-work drinks a few times but we have not gotten further. It is obvious that she is very attracted to me and I have made some obvious moves as well, yet in the end she is not letting herself go there yet. Do you guys have any ideas how to move on from here?

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/16 "2012-10-31T14:12:21Z")

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NICE reporting!

Curious to know your age, CorL?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 11:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/17 "2012-11-01T11:44:17Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> NICE reporting!
> 
> Curious to know your age, CorL?

Thanks, M&M! I’m in my early thirties and she is early to mid twenties.

I know I have reached a kind of fallout-level with this girl. These days she initiates conversation most of the time, comes over to my desk and basically won’t leave me alone all day. But as soon as I make a move myself, she becomes timid. I may have to get out my p83 - let’s see how that goes…😃

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**Author:** ![Waazzzzup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Waazzzzup](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Waazzzzup)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/18 "2012-11-02T22:07:59Z")

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> [@CorLeonis](#):
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> I have got to get myself some A1 to try with A314 - it should be even better than TAC. And thanks for your insights on the younger generation everyone.

What’s the fallout effect?

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**Author:** ![smartkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@smartkid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smartkid)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/19 "2012-11-03T07:32:40Z")

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> [@Waazzzzup](#):
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> What’s the fallout effect?

In a nutshell it means obsession, some sort of becoming addicted to you.

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**Author:** ![CorLeonis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/corleonis/32/917_2.png) [@CorLeonis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CorLeonis)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-a314-experience/55111/20 "2012-11-04T09:15:18Z")

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> [@Waazzzzup](#):
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> What’s the fallout effect?

Hey waazzzzup, you can read more about it here: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-users-have-you-experienced-fallout/33690](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-users-have-you-experienced-fallout/33690)  
Cheers

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