# My advice to buyers outside United States. **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [November 7, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469 "2007-11-07T05:41:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/1 "2007-11-07T05:41:11Z")
I noticed that many buyers still waiting for their [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to arrive…some have been more than a month of waiting. Those who chose the USPS Global Priority Mail, I can really say (thru my experience), nothing you can do about it except for hoping that your parcel will finally arrive at your doorsteps. My advice to all is to always use those options which are **Fully Tracked & Insured** since everyone treats their pheromones like gold. Although the cost is lil bit on the high side and some might think that it is a waste for paying extra money for the shipping, but you have to realize that you are not paying for the courier services, but you actually paying yourself in order to have **“peace of mind”.** 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryan/32/1528_2.png) [@Ryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ryan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/2 "2007-11-07T08:04:19Z")
I’m one of those people who’s been waiting _(alot longer than a month by the way ☹ )_. But it was actually the “Fully Tracked and Insured” that has let me down. On the other hand, I’ve used “USP Global Priority Mail” several times before including my very first order with Androtics and had no problems. They came from the US to Australia in less than two weeks, more to the point - THEY ACTUALLY GOT HERE! I’m not sure what option I’m going to take next time around, because I have been warned against USPS before. But I can not express how pissed-off I am with DHL, their service for me was pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/3 "2007-11-07T09:03:07Z")
yeah i agree though i have not had any problems with global priority.Once i receive notification from androtics it usually takes around 2 weeks to get to Australia ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/4 "2007-11-07T09:38:24Z")
Wow!! You can afford to wait for that long, Flaming!😮 But I can’t…I’m a very impatient guy when comes to waiting for something to arrive! If I order something today, I want the thing to arrive yesterday!!!😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/5 "2007-11-07T11:18:24Z")
yeah im patient but i dont find dhl all that much faster ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/6 "2007-11-07T13:18:41Z")
> [@Ryan](#): > > I’m one of those people who’s been waiting _(alot longer than a month by the way ☹ )_. But it was actually the “Fully Tracked and Insured” that has let me down. > > On the other hand, I’ve used “USP Global Priority Mail” several times before including my very first order with Androtics and had no problems. > They came from the US to Australia in less than two weeks, more to the point - THEY ACTUALLY GOT HERE! > > I’m not sure what option I’m going to take next time around, because I have been warned against USPS before. But I can not express how pissed-off I am with DHL, their service for me was pathetic. Ryan this is exactly why we keep the USGPM service on the website. Where as MOST users hate it and it takes months on end to get the product, some get it within a week. My theory is if you find something that works for you stick with it. From the massive amounts of shipping PM’s I get most are saying where is my USGPM package sent out a month ago! Please remember though I don’t handle CS issues so stop PM me about them. Crazy! ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/7 "2007-11-07T13:42:41Z")
iv never had a problem with USGPM and i hope that continues. I REALLY feel sorry for Ryan though i wont go DHL again ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/8 "2007-11-09T01:26:08Z")
> [@flaming](#): > > iv never had a problem with USGPM and i hope that continues. > I REALLY feel sorry for Ryan though i wont go DHL again Yeah! I feel sorry for Ryan too.☹ Understand how he feels. But the funny thing is DHL is considered among one of the best courier service in the world apart than FedEx and UPS, but if it takes 2 weeks 😮 to send a small parcel to Australia, it is really weird!:o In Malaysia, a parcel sent by normal service e.g. The British Royal Mail will take 4 days only, FedEx from USA will take 2 and half days to arrive.🙂 Anyway, I hope Ryan will receive his parcel soon.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/9 "2007-11-09T01:37:46Z")
For over seas people I suggest Fed ex or DHL over global p. They have there own fleet of planes but we have to use passenger jets to get ours overseas. Yep when your on a plane there is a shit load of mail on there with you. Because of this we have very strick rules and tougher customs regulations. We do deliver packages for both DHL and Fedex. Its a deal we made with them so they dont fall behind in deliverys and we get to piggy back liquids on there planes. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/10 "2007-12-03T08:37:08Z")
well this time Global Priority didn’t come though for me ☹ Two months and nothing and its always been so good rarely exceeding a three weeks. Well i can now join the ranks of the desperately waiting (for Godot) 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/11 "2007-12-03T08:52:54Z")
> [@flaming](#): > > well this time Global Priority didn’t come though for me ☹ > > Two months and nothing and its always been so good rarely exceeding a three weeks. > > Well i can now join the ranks of the desperately waiting (for Godot) 😠 What is the delivery time using normal shipping option from US to Australia? For me (in Malaysia) it will take 6-7 days from US using normal shipping, the longest will be 9 days. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/12 "2007-12-03T09:06:21Z")
Further to this “problem”, I think for International Shipping, the GPM option should be discontinued for it is not reliable and causing loses to buyers. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 11:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/13 "2007-12-03T11:00:08Z")
And one more thing I observe that most of the ‘complains’ about this problem come from Australian buyers. I’m wondering why and how to overcome this problem.😕 ---
**Author:** ![Ryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryan/32/1528_2.png) [@Ryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ryan)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/14 "2007-12-03T11:03:52Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > What is the delivery time using normal shipping option from US to Australia? For me (in Malaysia) it will take 6-7 days from US using normal shipping, the longest will be 9 days. The last four times I’ve used USGPM they’ve all come in 2 weeks, definitely no longer than 3. 1 from Androtics, 2 from Karma Sutra, and 1 from _‘unspecified place’_ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/15 "2007-12-04T00:19:45Z")
> [@Ryan](#): > > The last four times I’ve used USGPM they’ve all come in 2 weeks, definitely no longer than 3. > 1 from Androtics, > 2 from Karma Sutra, and > 1 from _‘unspecified place’_ 😉 hmmm…[http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/eusa\_think.gif](http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=2&t=4021#) ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/16 "2007-12-04T00:48:26Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > And one more thing I observe that most of the ‘complains’ about this problem come from Australian buyers. I’m wondering why and how to overcome this problem.😕 Australian customs is very thorough and strict, I’ve heard. When sent things (not as a business) to friends in Australia via USPS first class/airmail a couple years ago, it was taking about 10-14 days to get to them, and customs and/or whoever inspects packages had taken it all apart and retaped the package. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/17 "2007-12-04T00:57:55Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > Australian customs is very thorough and strict, I’ve heard. When sent things (not as a business) to friends in Australia via USPS first class/airmail a couple years ago, it was taking about 10-14 days to get to them, and customs and/or whoever inspects packages had taken it all apart and retaped the package. Well, can’t blame them though…they’re just doing their job. ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/18 "2007-12-04T04:35:10Z")
there is something going down about people importing steroids into Australia maybe they are holding all liquids in customs for a little while ---
**Author:** ![diasbora](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diasbora/32/656_2.png) [@diasbora](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diasbora)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/19 "2007-12-05T18:18:31Z")
I stick with DHL to Canada. Its lightening quick and handled like glass haha ---
**Author:** ![psirusmojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/psirusmojo/32/716_2.png) [@psirusmojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psirusmojo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469/20 "2007-12-11T11:38:33Z")
You guys think you got it rough? being in the military overseas is horrible. First you have to find a company willing to send to an APO address. Then when you do they charge you extra (APO and FPO address are actually sent to a location in California). Then after its delivered to Cali, you have to wait for “space availability” on government flights to get to your destination. Ive had a letter arrive a year after it was sent because it got lost in the system. I wasnt too worried thought, it was just a bill. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-advice-to-buyers-outside-united-states/6469.md?page=2)