# My experience with P93 at a club **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 15, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631 "2010-05-15T23:43:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/1 "2010-05-15T23:43:01Z")
**My Club Mix** 2s [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - right and left shoulder —\> right and left wrist if itching persists 1s TUTH - stomach 2s IS - 1s Hair + 1s Front of neck 1s IH - Back nape of neck 2s IO - back right and left ear Note: Ammo is the only phero that makes my skin itch after 2 or 3 applications to a spot I have been looking for a phero to add to my mix to prevent LMR at a club. I have been using AD’s pheros for a couple of months now. I just got my order of 30ml 2.5mcg P93 this week. I am going to add 2s of P93 (2.5mcg) on my wrists to see the effects. P93 self effects makes me sleepy when I sprayed 2s to my wrists at night on the computer. **Friday night:** Guys responded to me like a long lost buddy, however although some ladies (20s and early 30s) were attracted to me and danced with me. Some ladies brushed me off and asked me to carry on. I have never had that happen to me the past couple of months with pheros on. One lady even told a bouncer that I was harassing her, although the bouncer was friendly to me and asked me to ignore her. What gives? Bar closing time here is 1:45am and every time around 1:30 am, the ladies that I am having a good time with, excuse themselves. Maybe I will try just 1 spray of 2.5mcg P93 and add I drop of A314 in addition Saturday night. I try to avoid A314 at a club, as the first time I wore it to a club, I had guys calling me sir. Too much respect. Not good. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/2 "2010-05-16T02:58:02Z")
[P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) is very tricky with none, the only thing that definitive works for me with P93 is MX302 or MX301… ---
**Author:** ![21st-evo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b77776/32.png) [@21st-evo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21st-evo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/3 "2010-05-16T05:25:23Z")
What could have caused the “harassment”? Were you too aggressive or is it the [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/)? Judging from your feedbacks, it seems that you gained respect from men but intimidated women. ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/4 "2010-05-17T06:05:30Z")
> [@21st-evo](#): > > What could have caused the “harassment”? Were you too aggressive or is it the P93? Judging from your feedbacks, it seems that you gained respect from men but intimidated women. Hmmm I never thought of it that way, that is, I intimidated the women. To answer your question, I try to act my outgoing self when I go to a club and do not think I did anything through my actions to warrant those responses Friday night. ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/5 "2010-05-17T06:21:03Z")
**My Club Mix** 2s [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - right and left shoulder —\> right and left wrist if itching persists 1s [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) - stomach 2s IS - 1s Hair + 1s Front of neck 1s [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) - Back nape of neck 2s [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) - back right and left ear **Saturday Night:** I added 1 drop of A314 to hair and only used 1s of p93 (2.5mcg) to my left inside wrist and rubbed them together. This provided a few hits from the ladies and I still got the friendly vibe from all guys. I think the P93 reduced the effects of the none and rone in the mix to make it less sexual and less intimidating maybe. I went to my car and sprayed another 1s of TUTH to my chest and 1s IS to my neck at 1am. I managed to get the lady I was dancing with to write her phone number on a napkin for me around 1:30am a few minutes before closing. I also tried to press my luck at the end to see if she would like to come party at my house after close but she declined. To summarize, I will leave P93 out of my club mix since I need to spray more none and/or rone to get similar effects on ladies that I was getting without adding P93. I think it is very good for getting guys to be a lot friendly towards you. I will rather add it to the 1s of A314 I use for work to make it less intimidating when required. I was expecting the “ownership effect” from P93, the “I want you for myself only” that others had reported but did not get that. I am still looking to add another [pheromone](https://a314.com/) to reduce LMR at a club even if I have to apply it later at the club. Next on my list to test is P79 which is on its way from AD. Any other suggestions to try to reduce LMR? ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/6 "2010-05-17T15:39:06Z")
Strong -none signatures can sometimes bring latent craziness to light… ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/7 "2010-05-17T15:45:25Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > Strong -none signatures can sometimes bring latent craziness to light… Can you elaborate, please? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/8 "2010-05-17T16:56:59Z")
A314, Ammo and TUTH all contain androstenone. This pheromone has been known to cause aggression and has been documented by almost all users here at some point or another! Your tests aren’t really showing P93 at the club, but rather your crazy mixture of everything you own. Results are really inconclusive because you cannot narrow down what is causing which effect when you test like this. Using one pheromone and maybe one you are very very familiar with should help you determine what is really causing the effect. It’s like trying to judge the effectiveness of a whisper at a rock concert! Especially because androstenone is such a ‘loud’ pheromone it can drown out the effects of other ones. ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/9 "2010-05-17T17:23:55Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > A314, Ammo and TUTH all contain androstenone. This pheromone has been known to cause aggression and has been documented by almost all users here at some point or another! > > Your tests aren’t really showing P93 at the club, but rather your crazy mixture of everything you own. Results are really inconclusive because you cannot narrow down what is causing which effect when you test like this. Using one pheromone and maybe one you are very very familiar with should help you determine what is really causing the effect. > > It’s like trying to judge the effectiveness of a whisper at a rock concert! > Especially because androstenone is such a ‘loud’ pheromone it can drown out the effects of other ones. Hmmm. I am not sure where you are going with this. I am aware that all three of AMMO, TUTH and A314 contain -none. There was no aggression from any males but rather the opposite, like long lost buddies, when I added p93 to AMMO + 1s of TUTH. I stated in my earlier posts that I wanted to see if P93 will add the I want you for myself effect and I did not see that. Personally I do not wear A314 to clubs. When I have added P93 to A314 at work, I notice that the respect vibe is reduced to a less intimidating signature. I am at a loss to see why anyone will just wear only p93 to a club from reading its effect from other threads So evolver, I went back and read some of your previous responses to other users. Take this from Metal Tree on 4/24/10: **Re: Pheromone highlights in bar/club settings** **Pheromones** 1 Spray of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) to Stomach 1 Spray of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) - 50 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) to my stomach 1 Spray of 25 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of [TAC](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) to my back 2 Sprays of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) to my sides 2 Drops of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) to my wrists The Beat cover scent and your completely different response to the amount of -none MT had on: Your report sounds like a great night out MT! Good hits!!! I always use [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) when I’m feeling non conversational… See link below: > [@Pheromone highlights in bar/club settings](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/30): > > Your report sounds like a great night out MT! Good hits!!! I always use IO or IH when I’m feeling non conversational. My conversational skills eventually all come down to creativity in the field. Plus the ability to have no shame of “being dumb”!! Good putatives that I have tried for overcoming this shortfall of words are 74, 78, 84, 85, and 83. 74 gives good confidence and energy, 78 a bit of wacky energy that makes smoother transitions and more ADD, 84 and 85 have a vocal propulsion that make… ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/10 "2010-05-17T18:01:06Z")
A lot of people have issues… a higher percentage that you’d judge by looking at them… when you consider the incidence of SSRI medicine prescriptions, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil etc… the probability of crossing paths with mood disorders,regardless of where you go, is fairly high. Add disinhibiting club atmosphere, excess drinking, other jerks pissing people off… its’ easy to get a little crazy… Androstenone and prob.other androgen pheros increase a kind of awareness called vigilance… normally this comes across as being a little more tuned up, more perceptive… Paranoids are already hyper-vigilant by definition… every dumb minor thing is like a coded message filled with intentions, you looked at her means you are undressing her with your eyes, that expression on your face can only mean you are filled with sex thoughts… I have never had this with [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/)… I have had some problematic moments with androstenone… ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/11 "2010-05-17T18:09:00Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > A lot of people have issues… a higher percentage that you’d judge by looking at them… when you consider the incidence of SSRI medicine prescriptions, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil etc… the probability of crossing paths with mood disorders,regardless of where you go, is fairly high. > > Add disinhibiting club atmosphere, excess drinking, other jerks pissing people off… its’ easy to get a little crazy… > > Androstenone and prob.other androgen pheros increase a kind of awareness called vigilance… normally this comes across as being a little more tuned up, more perceptive… > > Paranoids are already hyper-vigilant by definition… every dumb minor thing is like a coded message filled with intentions, you looked at her means you are undressing her with your eyes, that expression on your face can only mean you are filled with sex thoughts… > > I have never had this with P93… I have had some problematic moments with androstenone… Thanks for the clarification. I had never had any problems with 2s AMMO and 1s TUTH (both standard strength) before till then, but it could still be the -none that caused her to react that way since I did not say a word to the lady. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/12 "2010-05-26T12:54:55Z")
The difference is in the mix. TAC is used sometimes as a buffer for high androstenone mixes to level out any aggression. Some people get aggression from androstenone and others do not. I found I got people being aggressive around me, but not necessarily to me. One story was a guy standing by himself wearing IJ at a club and someone clocked him in the head. Your mileage may vary. It has a lot to do with how you hold yourself, and control your emotions. I’ve also met metalTree, and in his experiments he uses primarily high androstenone mixes every time. It works for him! Why would someone wear only [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) to a club? For science! haha > [@thebigQ](#): > > Hmmm. I am not sure where you are going with this. I am aware that all three of AMMO, TUTH and A314 contain -none. There was no aggression from any males but rather the opposite, like long lost buddies, when I added p93 to AMMO + 1s of TUTH. I stated in my earlier posts that I wanted to see if P93 will add the I want you for myself effect and I did not see that. > Personally I do not wear A314 to clubs. When I have added P93 to A314 at work, I notice that the respect vibe is reduced to a less intimidating signature. I am at a loss to see why anyone will just wear only p93 to a club from reading its effect from other threads > > So evolver, I went back and read some of your previous responses to other users. Take this from Metal Tree on 4/24/10: > **Re: Pheromone highlights in bar/club settings** > **Pheromones** > 1 Spray of Instant Jerk to Stomach > 1 Spray of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) - 50 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) to my stomach > 1 Spray of 25 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of [TAC](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) to my back > 2 Sprays of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) to my sides > 2 Drops of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) to my wrists > The Beat cover scent > > and your completely different response to the amount of -none MT had on: > Your report sounds like a great night out MT! > Good hits!!! I always use [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) when I’m feeling non conversational… See link below: > > [Pheromone highlights in bar/club settings - #30 by evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-highlights-in-bar-club-settings/37263/30) ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-experience-with-p93-at-a-club/38631/13 "2010-06-11T20:51:07Z")
Thanks Evolver, this is what I think after much deliberation on the situation though. I believe, the lady may have had bisexual tendencies and was upset that her friend with her, may have been interested in me.