# My Findings So Far - Musings Pt II. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 9, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713 "2011-08-09T21:25:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/1 "2011-08-09T21:25:37Z")
I would like to add a word of caution before I carry on, now that I’m posting about adding A1 into mixes. While using A1 in mixes might bring melancholy, I’ve noticed that the low/crash that comes after using mones /when they wear off, A1 might sometimes bring the mood a notch lower. Use and proceed with caution. I’ve got the other mx412 vs A1 thread but I’ve decided to post everything here first because not everything is A1 related (although most of it is) and its really really late. 1. mx297 (3 sprays) + P74 (15mcgs) + P79 (15mcgs) + \ This is a **popular and funny guy mix**. At work, at social gatherings or at formal functions, with this mix on, you’ll find people laughing more around you and your words and comments. Not laughing at you, but laughing with you. It seems easier to elicit laughter and jovialness. Not whimsical but a projection of a guy with a good sense of humour. You might find people chuckling at what you say (and you don’t even think that’s funny) but its all earnest. Tried tested and faithful. I’ve used this countless of times now. I found this out when trying to find if P74 might possibly be used as a replacement for IH in my mx297 mix, but found that it worked slightly differently 1. mx297 (2-3 sprays) + A1 (50-75 mcgs) + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (1-2 sprays This is one of my standard go to mixes nowadays when I’m going for a social gathering with a lot of girls or meeting a possible ltr individual. I’ve just added in the extra A1 on top of the mx297 combo for extra comfort from the girls. The mx297 actually removes any possible negative effects on guys around you. I have noticed that A1 does indeed affect guys apart from yourself. Adding P74 and P79 to the mix also increases the “win” of the mix. It doesn’t overcomplicate or confuse the mix, but it adds the extra dimension of cheer and humour that I mentioned earlier. Very uplifting too. Ammo can be swapped out and replaced with TUTH for a more arousing signature. A1 seems to complement none 1. A314 (1-2 drops) + A1 (50-75 mcgs) \ Someone posted this in one of my threads as a possible IBF mix. This mix served me well until I delayed escalation for too long with a certain girl. Had similar results with another girl while on this but this time round she fell off my radar. Girls are less “outgoing” or chatty with you while on this mix, however the comfort is very obvious, kino is very very easy for when entering into a girl’s personal space while still in “friends status” without awkwardity or backlash (holding her arm or holding her by the waist and moving around, crossing the street or window shopping) A314 makes me moody sometimes, A1 makes me melancholic but for some reason this mix doesn’t give me much problems. 1. mx297 (3 sprays) + mx412 (2 sprays) + ammo (1 spray) “mini report first” (will transplant to my versus thread) I’ve taken to wearing mx297 to work too, alternating between A314 and mx297 as my base when the situation called for. I was going to be working with someone I knew who would be quite crabby and angsty. I wore mx412 instead of my usual A1 (not only for romantic use but work use) and lo and behold, mood uplift. **Working with her with mx412 actually seemed smoother and better than working with her with A1 on**. I wasn’t going to be checking for IOIs or kino or space, which brings me to my second occasion same mix out with dinner with friend, she kind of respects her personal space, and she also has a tendency to get easily irritated. We’re platonic, but with A1 she’s usually comfortable with slight kino, me messing or playing with her hair and leaning on me and the such. Without A1, not much kino, and immense irritation when touching her hair (anyone). With mx412 on she seemed to be more upbeat and happy, however when it came to personal space this time round, nada. Sit in close (we were looking at stuff on my laptop at the cafe - “don’t sit in so close…” uhhhhh but usually she sits in close and leans, “don’t touch my hair”) However she goofed offed quite a bit, did quite a few imitations of certain things we saw on the laptop. She kind of lost herself in the moment. Point to note, no melancholy that accompanied the mx412 and mx297 mix, only upbeat and happiness. **Conclusion mx412 brings comfort but not the kind of comfort A1 might bring. It makes girls happy and comfortable but there’s still difficulty closing that gap.** 1. P83 (30 mcgs) + A1 (75 mcgs) There’s this attractive intern that I met and I finally managed to ask her out. We all started going for lunch together and then out as a group after work for drinks and then lo and behold I managed to get her (for personal reasons, I will not disclose this here) out for dinner. She’s been around me while I’m on my mx297 P74 and A1 mix. To cut the long story short, she seemed reaaally uncomfortable with me that night, talking and holding conversation. She requested to go home immediately after our itenary ended. I decided to go for broke and excused myself and went up on the P83 and A1 (K-Train this is in honor of you). We ended up spending an extra 2 hours in my car. (Nothing naughty. I will just leave it at this. Tish and RAD will kill me if they knew what the end result was, so for personal life reasons and so that my two fondest/favouritest people in this forum not kill me, I shall end this here. Haha) **Conclusion - P83 and A1, IS WIN** ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/2 "2011-08-09T23:16:58Z")
Great report Johnny! Very detailed, and thanks for making it so organized because it allowed me to skip over the part about MX412 (because I haven’t tested it myself yet :o). I used a similar mix of [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)+A1+P83 before and loved it. Helped me loosen up and also prevented any haterocity from other guys but the A1 had me crashing a bit at the end. P83/A1 is probably one of the _the most_ effective combos I’ve tried. There was a reason why I nicknamed it “obsessed” lol. Which leads me to my next question: You spent 2 HOURS with a girl in a car, in a close confined space, with P83/A1 on…something very good came out of this encounter…😉 ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/3 "2011-08-09T23:44:45Z")
What about adding NPA in there hahahaha Wouldnt that make just a kill switch i would go [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) at 40 - 60mcg + A1 at 50 - 75mcg + NPA 4:1 ratio 2 sprays And Bam thats a killer mix and a half ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/4 "2011-08-09T23:59:25Z")
actually you could even add some IS in there to counter the effect of A1 and ad some UpBeat shit we might of found the holly Grail ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/5 "2011-08-10T00:00:07Z")
> [@hillcat](#): > > What about adding NPA in there hahahaha > > Wouldnt that make just a kill switch > > i would go > > P83 at 40 - 60mcg > + > A1 at 50 - 75mcg > + > NPA 4:1 ratio 2 sprays > > And Bam thats a killer mix and a half I’ve thought about combining A1/[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) with NPA. What results did you get from the combo? ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/6 "2011-08-10T00:05:57Z")
> [@hillcat](#): > > actually you could even add some IS in there to counter the effect of A1 and ad some UpBeat shit we might of found the holly Grail crap i am making a togo bottle of ISx2 and A1 a 4:1 mix 2 shots will give me 50mcg IS will counter act the negative and add some attraction. will add this to the NPA 4:1 ratio 2 spray + [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) (40 -60mcg) OMG this his going to OWN in a club type enviroment ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/7 "2011-08-10T00:08:12Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > I’ve thought about combining A1/P83 with NPA. What results did you get from the combo? Well i tried NPA 4:1 ratio with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 40mcg and let me tell ya it was crazy not alot of hit but the3 hits that were were just Lets do this right now my god A1 in there crazy ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/8 "2011-08-10T00:10:28Z")
Do you wear the A1 around your neck area. I tend to put the A1 around my forearms … ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/9 "2011-08-10T07:54:03Z")
Forearms, back and side of neck mixed with moisturiser lotion. Refreshing is done with the pure alcohol droplets.Dude, hurry up with the npa report man… I’m camping around just waiting for it. > [@hillcat](#): > > Do you wear the A1 around your neck area. I tend to put the A1 around my forearms … ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-findings-so-far-musings-pt-ii/51713/10 "2011-08-10T11:27:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#): > > Forearms, back and side of neck mixed with moisturiser lotion. Refreshing is done with the pure alcohol droplets.Dude, hurry up with the npa report man… I’m camping around just waiting for it. Trying the combo Thursday night so tommorow will let you know the outcome the test will be in a club /bar type enviroment…cant wait hehehe Now thinking how much mone would 2 spray of NPA 4:1 ratio give me