# My first day **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [May 12, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540 "2010-05-12T06:55:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/1 "2010-05-12T06:55:18Z")
Day 1. My order arrived right before I was leaving for work this morning so I had a chance to start using some. I got IS, TUTH, and IH as well as a gift of IO togo. I had been using Athena 10x and quite often I’ve been told I smell really good. After reading a lot of threads I learned a few things. Since I’m 40ish I have a lower none profile. From other information on this forum I’ve found that Athena 10x is very mild in concentration. As a practice run I wore the 10x yesterday but I purposely used a bit more and applied a dab to each wrist and rubbed. I have no idea what concentration of cologne to 10x I used. I had purchased it over a year ago. I was in a meeting in an office and my coworker seemed to be restless throughout the meeting. She was playing with her hair and her body seemed to be pointed at me. Today I got my order. So I used my Athena like I did yesterday but added a shot of IS to each wrist. I did a spray of the IO on my neck as well. I was getting lunch at the store and another coworker who I don’t really talk to was talking a lot to me before she had to go back to work. I went back to the lunchroom at work to grab some utensils when my gf ran into me. I buried the lead lol- she is the main reason I started looking into expanding beyond athena. There have been a few occasions after having sex where she would say i smelled really good. Recently I felt like we were becoming more distant. We’ve been only together for about four months. She’s gone from saying “lets get married!”(always after having sex) to being suddenly busy. She wanted to move in with me as well. I know she was busy and I have monopolized a lot of her time since we’ve been going out. I always said balance was good and that she should spend more time with her friends and family. So I run into her at lunch. This is about two hours after I applied the sprays. She was very upbeat and talkative but she said she woke up in a good mood. This is also day 3 of her period. The past week she was very emotional. She stood next to me and seemed to mirror my stance. Then she started playing with my shirt and just fussing over me a bit. After work she comes over to my place and I hurry to apply more. I did one spray of TUTH and another shot of IO - both on the chest. I didn’t have time to minimize the strength of the smell so i wanted to cover it for a while. She made no comments like “God you have a lot of cologne on”. We’re hanging out and she says “We need to talk”. I’ve been preparing for this talk for two weeks since I noticed she’s been more distant. One of the things people say here is that its 90% you. I had assumed the worst and prepared for a breakup. That should show you that I can be a bit neurotic and a bit insecure. The talk went well and she still wants to be a couple but she wanted to slow it down a bit. There is a big age difference. I’m 42 and she’s 25. I tell her I agree that taking it slower would be better. Short of it is, we’re still a couple- she just needs more time with her family. The talk itself was interesting. She can be very affectionate but today seemed a bit different. She climbed onto my lap and straddled me. She kept playing with the zipper on my fleece. I had sprayed the IS and TUTH on my chest so the zipper was right on top of that area. Maybe she was keying in on it sub consciously or the mones were kicking in a bit. Again this is my first day and I only did 1 spray of TUTH and one of IO. I didn’t even use the IH yet. I have a feeling that what I put on helped her be more comfortable in telling me what she wanted. All I know is I’m more curious to play around with these and see how things go at work. I work where there are a lot of women so I am very curious to see how different combos work. I was able to get an order of ammo and it should be arriving tomorrow. I am curious to see how much more of an impact it should have. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/2 "2010-05-14T23:00:40Z")
Well it’s two days later. IS 2 sprays to wrist/forearms IO 1 spray back of neck Athena 10x mix on chest Standing outside at work I was talking to a woman who seemed to inch closer. She fidgeted a lot and was playing with her hair as we talked. My gf called to say she wanted to come over and hang with me for a bit. After work I went home and got ready by adding a bit more- this is about 7 hours after first application TUTH 1 spray to the chest IS 2 sprays to wrist/forearms IO 2 sprays to neck IH 1 spray to neck I’m sitting at the computer with headphones on and she surprises me by coming up behind me and smelling me from my neck all the way down my arm. Turns out this was actually a booty call and I was going to get some anyways. However, she kept commenting how I smelled different. I think we were both responding to the IS and IO because we were having a good time just bantering and talking. Even during sex I could feel her smell me deeply. I am a believer. I felt invincible and confident. That was definitely coming through. This was something I had been missing for a while. As I got more and more involved in the relationship, I started to feel more insecure and it was actually affecting my sex life. She was right about needing space. I needed a bit more space too. I had focused so much on making everything smooth in the relationship that I had forgotten to take time to myself. I really love these products because the socials seem to really perk me up as well and that has to be coming across. I have to be more careful about what I wear at work. For some reason my boss as well as other coworkers seem to be talking to me more It was kind of disturbing to see my boss(male) playing with his hair when I was in his office. lol. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/3 "2010-06-21T23:24:39Z")
time has passed I had the best of intentions of keeping a journal but it’s been an interesting journey since my first day. I did a lot of playing around with mones. I’ll post some random experiences I hadn’t talked about. Early on when I got IS i noticed I had a lot of trouble sleeping for more than 2 hours. I’m not sure if part of it was because I was bummed out from the breakup. An odd effect that I had - I was on ventrilo and on the phone with a girl. I recall spontaneously talking out loud to noone. Hell I even was surprised I blurted out what was on my mind. I’m pretty sure I didn’t have much IO or IH on me- if anything at that point I was probably doing a spray of IS every hour. The stuff that I was saying was just whatever was on my mind. I don’t usually talk like that. A lot of it was stuff about my breakup. Maybe I just needed more sleep, lol. Another thing I’ve noticed more recently is I know it’s affecting women because they seem to lack concentration. They will ask me a question. I will answer and then they will forget what I said and ask me again. I’ve seen both younger and older women do this. It’s amusing to see them be distracted from tasks at hand and drop stuff. I wonder what they’re thinking. This past saturday I was at the mall and I got snagged by a saleslady at one of those kiosks. 3 sprays of 297 2 sprays of ammo 2 sprays of IS 2 sprays of IO I’m working on my game and this seems like a good way to practice. I have her laughing at everything I say. At some point she says that she was glad I stopped by because she had a fight with her bf and I got her out of her head for a bit. She wished all customers were like me. She said it’s usually her job to make jokes. Before I leave she asks for a hug. Normally I don’t have pretty women asking me for hugs. I tell her I had to check my rates because I don’t give out free hugs, but since I liked her I would give her one on the house. Also at the mall, I stopped by the ATT store and was talking with a sales guy. He was pretty stocky and looked like a big guy. He would look away most of the time when talking to me. Most salespeople I know are in your face and looking for visual clues or my reaction. He was averting his gaze, lol. I’ve noticed that a lot with a314 as well. Guys that would normally have no problem getting in my face to sell me stuff would just give me space and respect by not looking me in the eye. What I really like about mones is the feedback loop that it generates. Confidence booster \> IOI from women \> confidence booster \> Today at work 2 sprays of 297 2 sprays of ammo 2 sprays of IS 2 sprays of IO I walk by this one girl whos at her desk. She sees me from a distance. She’s got this wide eyed look and grin on her and as I pass her she turns her head to follow- still with the same wide eyed look and I just flash a big smile. I’ve been doing that a lot more too. Just smiling at any woman that i see. It’s just a smile 😃 ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/4 "2010-06-22T23:19:13Z")
ok - felt a bit bolder today. 3 sprays 297 - boss’s gf wasn’t around today 2 sprays ammo 2 sprays is 2 sprays io At work i’m outside and my ex brushes past me all meek. She doesn’t say hello or anything. My coworkers were like who’s she? I said my ex. They were confused why she pushed past me instead of walking around. I’m sure she got a good whiff because I was sweating and it was really warm and humid. Application is about 2 hours old at this time. At work I’m responding to an email that the head guy sent out. Now this guy for some reason always intimidated me. After using mones I’d swear he was a a314 guy. He’d stand behind me at work and I’d somehow manage to make the stupidest mistakes. I’ve pulled out the power cord of my pc/monitor/displayed the wrong data/ whatever could go wrong I’ve managed to do when he wants me to show him something. Today my friend says you should respond to that email. I had my back turned away as I was getting a togo from my bag. I said it’s covered. I already did what I had to do and the people that needed to know have already been notified. I can go over the details with the other people when we get back from lunch. I turn and there’s the head guy- my boss’s boss- smiling. I don’t even blink. I say hello and look him in the eye and say it’s taken care of. My friend is standing there smiling and smirking because he knows how i’ve been in the past. I would have stood there and stammered and probably made an apology. I talk about what’s going on and what the situation is and my boss’s boss is stepping away and looking humble. I look around and there are now about 4 people fanned out around me facing me. This is a weird hit that I attribute to the erone that is in 297. My friend could sense that there was a shift in attitude. I even comment about it on the way to lunch. I say I’ve changed and for the better. Added a spray of 297 I’m getting a lot of IOI now. I might have to tone this down - lol i keep saying that- but it’s a lot of fun. I get a call from my ex. She’s complaining about an issue she’s having with our software. I listen and I realize OMG shes really bitched up. it’s been 28 days since we broke up and she said she was really pmsing hard that day. My app is off or she’s getting a different cycle now that she’s drinking a lot more. I listen and just get right to the point. I don’t even bother coddling her like I used to. I tell her why she has an “issue” and that the problem is the software is working just as intended. After I explain what the details are she settles down and says she just needed an answer. And the answer I gave her works for her. I tease her by saying Good, because that’s the only answer I’m giving and too bad if you didn’t like it. She laughs and I send her on her way. Her hurrying past me this morning might have been her pms reacting to the none. The erone kept her quiet probably. I’m just hoping. I apply another shot of 297 and a shot of IS I do have A1. Maybe tomorrow I’ll tone it down a bit with IS and some A1 added to it. But these mones aren’t about her. They’re about me 😃 I get another great hit. When I was using a314, this one girl would not look at me whatsoever unless i was looking away. She sees me from several feet away and she’s not getting a whiff of me. She waves and I wave back. As I get closer she follows me into the building. She says “You smell really really good” This 297 is a lot smoother than a314. There is an intimidation but not like a314. I buffered my usage of a314 and I like the hits I get with 297 more. I laugh, smile and say thanks. I’m seeing more and more stares and looks from coworkers. I wonder if anyone will put this together. I have been working out a lot and toning up. I’m also a lot more confident as a result of everything going on. After work I head to the coffeeshop. The girl that waits on me remembered me from the day before. Her voice was all soft and she was very attentive. She made a mistake entering my order in and then she explained why she made the mistake. Women tend to make a lot more mistakes around me lol. I go to the lottery stand and there’s a woman waiting there too. After a few moments she starts fidgeting and she slides more to my side and leans across to get some lottery information. Lol she was basically pointing her butt right at me while she stretched to get the information. This is stuff that is always there and noone reads. Well at least I never read. The lottery cashier and this woman are both fidgeting a lot. I’m about 2 feet away. I feel i’m getting a reputation at this store as the guy who smells freakin awesome. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/5 "2010-06-23T22:51:40Z")
So I’m pretty sure my ex is pmsing. I don’t know why I bother but I decide to use some A1 today. I made a mix last night of 4 ml of IS, 15 drops of A1 and 1 ml of a cologne. With 40 sprays per togo bottle that should be about 16 mcg of A1. In hindsight I think I would want to use 2 ml of IS and 2 ml of IO. 3 sprays 297 1 spray of ammo 4 sprays of IO 2 sprays of regular IS. 2 drops of a1 - one on each wrist. A1 seemed to mellow this out or maybe it was the extra IO that did it. I’m sitting at my desk at work and I’m a little spacy. I don’t feel the usual bounce that I have or that arrogance I’ve been used to. I don’t feel very talkative and I feel helpless. I keep telling myself it must be the A1 and get over it. I go talk to my boss and it seems like it’s hitting him as well. He struggles to find words and seems more lost in thought. I don’t know if it’s worth subjecting myself to this. My confidence feels very shaky. I get outside and my head clears up a bit. Maybe with the close confines of the office I was taking way too much in. I know 80 mcg is a lot - way more than I should have used. I walk around the office where the women work and I feel a bit better. A supervisor is very eager to walk around for me to find out some information about some issues. I’m getting compliments and looks. I think the best way to describe how this affected my hits- and it could be the extra IO that did this- I should know better. If you change anything in software or hardware- just change one thing at a time to see the results, otherwise you will have a harder time pinning down results. There are two women on the phone and I’m waiting to ask them questions. I can see the one has this huge grin on her face. She’s the one who I’ve seen all DIHL when I stopped by before. She seems to be giggling. The girl next to her turns to talk to me and she goes what? oh. what was i saying? I don’t feel the intimidation is there as much as the other times I’ve used my mixes. Maybe I should try 4 sprays of IO with the 297 and not use the a1. I also wonder how this would be with meo-est. I manage to avoid my boss’s gf today. lucky me lol. Needless to say my ex took the day off. It’s all for the best, though. 1 spray 297 1 spray IO 1 spray IS regular This one visitor to our workplace walks by me to go to the restroom. She comes back and as she’s walking by she turns and gives me a soft easy smile. Outside at work I’m talking to another woman who asks if I’ve lost weight. I tell her that I have been working out and eating a more natural diet. She says you can really tell and that my shoulders look really defined now. She can be pretty bitchy at times but she was very cool today. Maybe people are getting used to my signature but again, today i’m not getting the slightly apprehensive look that I’ve been getting when I walk around. Not getting jaw dropping, omg he’s here type of look. Just wow he’s here type of looks. After work I head to the store. 1 spray IS mix 1 spray IO As I walk in, a woman in front of me starts pushing her hair back several times. She can’t see me but I am definitely upwind. She almost seemed to block my path as I’m getting to the store. She stopped and I had to walk around her. I get a drink and the cashiers at the coffeeshop really know me well now. I get a you better be here tomorrow morning comment when the one girl says that she will be working in the morning. She knows I get my coffee and breakfast there in the mornings. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/6 "2010-06-26T04:56:06Z")
Yesterday: 3 sprays 297 1 spray of [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 4 sprays of [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2 sprays of regular IS. It’s a hot and humid day. Tired- lot of good hits during the day. Reapply 297 and the IS mix i made with about 16 mcg of a1. I think I was borderline OD. One girl at the store who always says hi is on her phone and doesn’t see me as I walk by. I’m at the deli and one woman walks past me - she’s a bit older but a hard body blonde. I don’t notice people really looking at me. I do over hear the woman say to the counter person that she says she can’t seem to think straight lol. It was a hot day. One thing I did differently than other days was wear two shirts instead of one. By the end of the day the sprays of IO must have degraded into none and I must be a stinking mess. I am not getting the usual hits that I do from the younger girls. I go home and shower. Today: 3 sprays of 297 2 sprays of IS usual good banter with the ladies at the coffee shop. I get to work and today I have to ask my boss’s gf to look at an issue. She’s in her mid 50s and she’s giddy and blushing so hard that she’s red in the face. I am not encouraging this so I’m very business like. She fidgets in her seat a lot and I’m glad when she goes. While getting coffee, a female coworker, my friend and the cashier were talking. The cashier and the female coworker say how svelte I am and that i’m really looking good. While we were seated she’s constantly playing with her hair and can’t seem to sit still. I don’t know why I didn’t bother reapplying. Lately for some reason, when I don’t reapply, I run into my ex. We’re in the lunch room and she’s on the other side. This is 6 hours after first application. They say 6 hours is the end threshold for sprays usually and it’s been a hot day and I’ve been outside. She crosses the room to stand squarely facing me. I look at her eyes and they’re dilated. She may be young but she’s experienced so maybe she understands none better. Her body language is displaying interest and we chat and joke a bit. I wonder why I didn’t reapply and I wonder what her reaction would have been. Doesn’t matter- she was definitely feeling something so even if it was just none, i’m sure that got her thinking. Later on I go to the store. Now I reapply one spray. It’s different than the day before however I am really only getting looks from older women. One older woman gave me an evil smile as she blocked my way temporarily. I think I have to be more consistent about reapplying and need to bring alcohol wipes to remove the earlier applications. I shower and go get a haircut. 2 sprays of 297 2 sprays of is 2 sprays of io Very fun haircut. Very chatty. There were no other customers and I had the 3 employees all laughing. Her hands seem to linger more on my head as she’s cutting. Apparently I am one of the nicest guys they have as a customer. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/7 "2010-06-26T07:08:36Z")
I must have missed something…when exactly did the break up occur? It just goes from “me and my gf” to “me and my ex”. Did you post about that somewhere else? Good journal though. Looking forward to more. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/8 "2010-06-26T21:03:01Z")
i glossed over it. I guess the backstory is everything was going fantastic- at least in my eyes. We go on vacation together to visit her friends in late april and that’s when she started drinking like a fish. Before that I had only seen her drink maybe 2-3 beers in a night. She had always said I was too agreeable. I told her that nothing was worth fighting about because anything she asked was actually valid. I did say that I will disagree about something someday. I never told her to stop or cut back drinking. As a former addict myself, I know you can’t just tell people that because that is something you have to learn all on your own. I just said I thought she drank way too much in public and that i didn’t mind if she got that trashed with friends and family in a safe setting. I made many mistakes- I learned that I was always compliant. I also let her know my feelings about the drinking and that it was my own insecurities. The weird thing is she said that she agreed with me. So when we get back it’s like a flip got switched. I knew she was busy with family stuff but it’s like she went out of her way to avoid me. I would only text or call once every other day. It’s like she wanted to break up with me when I disagreed with her and she took her time. She said a lot of things that just cut me deeply. “I don’t know if I ever loved you” “The age difference is a really big deal” “I never had a chance to really drink so I want to concentrate on that” She opened me and was the one who pursued me and she knew my age. She broke up with me May 25. Her words were: Sometimes I can’t stand you at all. (possibly my usage of none during her pms) and she said that when she goes out drinking she likes to flirt and doesn’t want to cheat on me because she knows she may be having sex. “You knew I was a slut when you met me” What can one say to any of that? She was looking for any way out and I’m not going to argue and beg her to reconsider. > [@trying to be more systematic in testing](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-be-more-systematic-in-testing/39310): > > Today was a good day. 2 drops a314 1 spray IS2x 1 spray IG 1 spray of IO I’ve been playing around a bit with how a314 works and usually have been adding IS. I got to work and I could tell the a314 was affecting me. I have been on vacation for a week and I received and email stating that there was a problem but no details other than oh there’s an issue. I don’t have time to tolerate little bullshit nonsense. I send out a response to most of the company and to make sure it wasn’t too sarc… That post is reflective of what I have learned about why I came to this forum and store. I didn’t post in my journal because I was playing around with the mones and mixes and just having fun. I should have because it would be easier to see the timeline. I’m being a bit more diligent about it. And thanks! ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/9 "2010-06-26T21:20:54Z")
I really hate hot weather and I’m sure all of you guys hate it as well when it comes to mones. 3 sprays 297 2 sprays IS Coffee shop was good. Girl commented that she seems to be losing her memory. She forgot what she asked me and had to ask again. Got a nice dreamy look from the lottery girl too. Went to my nutrition store to get more glutamine and some arginine. I walk in and go right to the products. I passed the cashier and she calls out from the other side of the store and chokes out if I need any help to just let her know. Her voice cracked and I felt that she got a good whiff as I walked by. I step up to the counter and this is what I love about mones. When you hear their voice get all soft and sexy. It’s a Marilyn Monroe type of voice. I just chuckle whenever I hear that. She was trying to maintain composure. I head to the mall and I reapply a spray of 297 and a spray of IS It seems that I’m bordering on OD between the heat and the breakdown. Or maybe the high amount of erone is putting me too way out of reach. At the video store, the female cashiers were hit hard. Again the usual can’t concentrate. They don’t really look at me until I start making chatter. I ask one girl who’s asian if they have something and she says they don’t so i move back to look for other movies. I could see out of the corner of my eye she continued to stare at me. I check out and the other female cashier is falling over herself to be helpful. Again, I can see her concentration shaken. I leave and get lunch at subway. I reapply another spray of 297 and a spray of IS mix with about 16 mcg of A1. Ok this is about 5 sprays over a 4 hour period. the first three I’m sure have had the buffers degrade a bit. You know how you move down the line at subway as you give your order? The first guy who works on it can’t look at me until I ask him a few questions and chat with him in a joking way. Same with the girl who puts the order together. And then the cashier, he wouldn’t look at me at all. I go sit down and I look around the room. One girl at the table next to me was facing away from me but I caught her staring when she thought I wasn’t looking her way. Everyone seemed quiet. I just sat there all amused. I love erone products. Then I made a mistake. I used another shot of my IS mix with A1. Whatever confidence I was feeling got totally blown out. I suddenly crashed and was tired. I couldn’t think. I passed by this one kiosk where the sales lady remembered me. I think she was devastated because I was the complete opposite of how she remembered me. The last time I saw her I was funny, animated and definitely not boring. Now I was speechless, distant and aloof. I really need to build up a tolerance to a1 but oh god it feels so painful to watch how I react to it. Congruence goes totally out the window. I feel like sleeping… ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/10 "2010-06-26T21:40:26Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > Another thing I’ve noticed more recently is I know it’s affecting women because they seem to lack concentration. They will ask me a question. I will answer and then they will _ **forget** _ what I said and ask me again. I’ve seen both younger and older women do this. > It’s amusing to see them be _ **distracted from tasks at hand and drop stuff** _. I wonder what they’re thinking. Hopelessly you’re not alone, many times I have seen the same thing with ladies; yesterday these two ladies back-to-back seemed to lost their train of thought and focus. By the way, good report.🙂 MVKBUGATTI ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/11 "2010-06-26T21:56:18Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > i glossed over it. Sorry to bring it up. Just the way you talked about “the breakup” I thought you must have talked about it somewhere else. I’ve dated chicks about the same age who displayed almost the exact same behavior. I even worked with one the same time we were dating. I quickly learned it wasn’t worth the time or energy. I wouldn’t worry about it…women like that are crazy (well, more crazy than the average female lol) and you seem to damn near have your pick of every woman you meet. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/12 "2010-06-27T00:00:43Z")
It’s not a problem. I’ve learned a hell of a lot so it’s all good. ---
**Author:** ![martinm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/martinm/32/1420_2.png) [@martinm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martinm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/13 "2010-06-27T00:56:29Z")
hoplessly, I lived in a hot weather area too. Would be interesting to see what the effects of the hot weather on wearing mones. When you say hot, what’s the temperature? And is it humid in your area? ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/14 "2010-06-27T01:02:14Z")
it’s been mid to high 80s lately with varying humidity. A couple of tests with my ex have been with no reapplication at the 6 hour mark which they say is the duration of most sprays. They do say there are residual effects well after that and possibly into the next day. I’ve been using 297 as my main mix and someone had noted that some of the buffers seem to wear quite early. With this kind of heat and humidity I imagine that the 6 hour is a much shorter number. I still have some kind of result but it’s definitely not as hard hitting as right after application. ---
**Author:** ![martinm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/martinm/32/1420_2.png) [@martinm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martinm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/15 "2010-06-27T01:13:06Z")
I see. So I’m in a hotter area compared to you. Mine is roughly in the 90s with high humidity. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/16 "2010-06-27T02:06:14Z")
martinm do you find yourself outside much? Even though I don’t smoke, a lot of my coworkers do so I usually join them outside because we can actually discuss issues and get some work done outside. With the varying humidity it’s been either really humid or somewhat cool- bottom line is I’m sweating a lot. I never have to use deodorant- for some reason I don’t smell. Still there’s some bacteria that breaks everything down. The problem with sweating and heat is that the mones break down - like a1 breaks down into nols which breaks down into none. If you have a lot on, you could OD easily on a hot day as the breakdown can occur within 20 minutes. I will have to bring alcohol wipes and do applications that are more accessible than the chest maybe so I can clean up throughout the day and reapply a “fresh” application. ---
**Author:** ![martinm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/martinm/32/1420_2.png) [@martinm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martinm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/17 "2010-06-27T03:10:29Z")
hoplessly, I tried to avoid being outside if I can. But I’m not the type that’s sweating a lot. However, I’m a bit afraid that pheromone wouldn’t be as effective in a hot/humid environment. Back when I was in California (weather is mild/hot but not humid), the colonge that I wear stayed pretty long (6-8hrs) but once I moved back to Thailand the same colonge only last 3-4hrs. I just got my shipment and I start with a small dose (1 spray) and will try to increase it until I see the effect. I’m gonna subscribe to this thread because our situation is similar regarding weather. Maybe I can learn something from you 😃 ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/18 "2010-06-27T16:26:51Z")
sunday 6/27 3 sprays of 297 4 sprays of IS 2 sprays of IO and since I feel I have a decent handle on how 297 and the social buffers seem to work with me- I get bold 10 mcg p93 it’s not that hot or humid right now but it will be. I head to the coffee shop at the supermarket. It’s Sunday and churches probably let out so it’s crowded. This is probably a good day to go to a supermarket to do testing as there are a ton of people. Couple of things i’m doing differently. 297 is now mostly on my wrists. Two reasons for this. -I can remove the application if I feel that it’s worn or has changed/degraded. -When testing in a environment where you have to make payment or receive orders, it’s easier for them to get a whiff when you hand your money to a cashier. The cashier- older lady- who’s always been friendly. She’s blushing and looks like she’s ready to giggle. The other workers are eager to get my order ready. Couple of younger girls seem to notice me - i caught one staring and she snapped her head to look away. They seemed to hover around me while I waited for my order. I head to the deli counter. The place is crowded. This is an ideal place to test if it’s crowded since you have a valid reason to just stand there while you wait. I grab a number and there are 20 other numbers in front of me so this will be a while. One old lady in yellow pants seems to pick up my scent- she glances back to me a couple of times but other than that nothing. A lady closer in my age in purple seems to be busy behind me as if she’s making an excuse to just stand there. Her husband drops by and their conversation sounded interesting in how she was acting. She was all soft and confused at first and then she sounded annoyed the longer he was talking. She moves away to get something down the aisle and walks in front of me and comes back and looks at me. So I smile and she smiles big long smile back. She’s still waiting and it’s really small talk but another woman to my left - about my age or older- she opens me and says long wait- what’s your number? I had noticed this one doing some hair flips but she was looking away- but standing right next to me. I show her and say I’m feeling lucky - my number is coming right up! Not sure if this next one was a hit because I know I do it sometimes. Sometimes when you want to look at someone you pretend you’re looking off in the distance but you sorta get a look in your peripheral. This one woman had done that and turned my direction but was looking off in the distance for a while. Maybe that’s all it was. I get my order done quickly and do more shopping. I run into the lady who was on my left and she smiles really big at me. At the lottery counter older lady in yellow is in front of me. She turns and has this huge smile on her face and asks me a question about what days the mega is. I tell her. At some point during the conversation she kinos me right above my left nipple. For some reason my nipples are like magnets. this might be the p93. I got opened more today with p93 on. I know what I’ve read about it but I do know how my 297 + socials usually work. I usually have to do the opening to start a conversation. So I don’t think it’s a coincidence that I got opened more today. Another thought is, for some reason more of my obvious hits have been with older women. Could it be because I had gone from 2 sprays of 297 to 3? Or am I experiencing more a none build up from general usage of mixes. I bought some witch hazel today and I’m going to try and clean up my application points. Maybe take a break to give myself a rest but man this is too much fun. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/19 "2010-06-27T17:15:48Z")
Hmm, Looking back at my notes and other posts- I didn’t stay in 2 sprays of 297 for very long… So it has to be a buildup. My chest does feel a bit stickier than other parts of my body. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540/20 "2010-06-28T03:48:00Z")
So I don’t know if the p93 is really a helpful way to be more approachable. After taking a break, I shower and use witchhazel to clean up my chest. 3 sprays 297 4 sprays IS 10 mcg p93 I run into a female coworker at the store and she’s always been a chatter box and she has no problem going on and on about stuff at work. I tend to angle away from people with my body language. It’s slight but people usually move to square off. She did the same. I think she chatted with me for about 40 mins before I moved off because I had some things to take care of later. At checkout- I tend to go to whoever is available and not base it on if it’s a pretty girl or what not. Previously, using 297 and whatever socials, unless I really attempt to open up, I’m just greeted with smiles but no words. This girl, who is not really attractive, gave me the goofiest smile and actually said my name because she read it off the receipt. Does p93 help temper the status of erone? I don’t think it crushes it, it feels like it allows me to be a bit more approachable despite the perceived higher status. I’ll have to keep testing. Adding p93 feels different than when I was using 297 with socials. I did not initiate conversation and yet I got opened by three women today. This is different. Of course more testing. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-day/38540.md?page=2)