# My First Few Days with Pheromones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 24, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062 "2008-05-24T18:07:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/22 "2008-05-29T01:01:46Z")

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I went to talk to that girl, I was even standing next to the air ventilation (IDK if that helps), and she was kinda acting, for lack of a better term, bitchy. I was like “HEY” and she was like “THAT’S NOT YOUR SEAT, THAT’S DAN’S. GO BACK TO YOUR SEAT.”

I was taken a little aback by this. Whatever.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/23 "2008-05-29T01:02:13Z")

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> [@lakerman34](#):
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> I have been walking into 2 sprays of Instant Shine, and spraying Instant Honesty behind my head.
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> I spray one Ammo to the chest, and that is for the entire day.
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> I’m gonna be straight up honest w/ you guys, I don’t think I am seeing results. I don’t know if I need to apply more, less, or buy a different spray.

Walking into 2 sprays of Instant Shine as in walking into a ‘cloud of IS’ like you would with cologne?? This isn’t cologne, just spray it on yourself. You’re probably getting a lot of rubbing alcohol on you and a little bit of pheromones.

I’ll be straight up honest with you. 😃 You need to firstly, apply differently. I don’t think the ‘walking into sprays’ is going to be an effective way to use these products. I may be wrong.

Next, vary the doses. We like to err on the side of caution, but maybe one or two more sprays of Ammo will do the trick. Or try 4-6 sprays of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) on your neck/chest.

What have you tried? Just one Ammo for the day or walking into 2 sprays of IS and a spray to the back of the head?

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/24 "2008-05-29T01:15:54Z")

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At your age I wouldn’t even wear Ammo, though it probably would work in a pinch- make sure you have no bodor odor at all on you. x1-x2 instant shine and x1-x2 instant openness to your wrists should be plenty to talk to people. Maybe x1 Instant Gentlemen. And make sure you don’t have too much BO funk.

No pheromone that I’ve seen is going to make somebody that doesn’t like you change their mind. Keep that in mind. If you are an odious person, you will still be an odious person with or without pheromones. Make sure you have a good personality before you go blaming pheromones.

And don’t be attached to a particular girl. If she’s attracted to you, great. But don’t “try” and get her, she won’t be impressed. Especially in highschool, you are dealing with very immature people that don’t know what they want. Wait until you get older to “get serious”.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/25 "2008-05-30T19:58:24Z")

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I’ve been doing one shot of Ammo to the chest, and then I leave it at home. I have been doing a shot or two of Instant Shine right on the face (no more walkthroughs) and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to the back of the head and crooks of my arms. I do NOT have BO, and people have been telling me that I ‘put on too much cologne,’ so I don’t know if I should add sprays or not.

One Asian girl has been talking to me a LOT MORE lately than she used to, but I’m not interested lol.

The Latina girl (the one I have a thing for) has been like saying things to me that don’t make sense lately (kind of like she just wants to talk to me, but really doesn’t know what to say) but IDK, that may just be because I am looking for results, she may be that way for everybody. We have been talking the last like 5 seconds when she walks to her locker and I to mine after class though. IDK, she just might be trying to be nice. She’s nice to everyone. I decided to grow some cajones and I’m definitely gonna ask her to hang out sometime during the summer. If she brushes me off, I know she’s not interested, and if she says sure, GREAT!

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/26 "2008-05-30T20:54:57Z")

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We often talk about a DIHL, that is, a strange look from a girl where she doesn’t quite know what to make of you or your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature, but what the Latina girl did sounds like a “deer in headlights conversation”. You say it’s like she doesn’t know quite what to say, so it could be the verbal equivilant to a DIHL. Definitely follow up on her and keep us posted!

-D4

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/27 "2008-06-02T19:42:39Z")

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Today I straight out blurted out WOW YOUR GORGEOUS to her, it just kinda came out, IDK what I was thinking.

I was afraid she was gonna get turned off, but she kinda just laughed? But after that, she started like talking to me about how she was trying out for select choir, about her Spanish class, her math final, IDK, I was kind of the one asking questions, but she was giving me good answers, IDK how to interpret this.

I called my buddy who is friends w/ her and he, myself, this girl, and my prom date are hopefully gonna hang out this summer. He and my prom date have a history with each other, they dated a couple of times, and I think she may be interested in the both of us. Since the girl I am trying to get with is her best friend, I figured my bud would kind of pull my prom date away from me so I can focus on this girl.

Teenage love. It kicks ass lol.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/28 "2008-06-02T22:07:56Z")

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> [@lakerman34](#):
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> I was afraid she was gonna get turned off, but she kinda just laughed? But after that, she started like talking to me about how she was trying out for select choir, about her Spanish class, her math final, IDK, I was kind of the one asking questions, but she was giving me good answers, IDK how to interpret this.

I would interpret that as interest. She didn’t take your comment offensively as you had thought she might and she laughed (giggled?) so she maybe thought you were being cute. Either way, the fact that she talked to you more instead of less tells me you’re good to go. You’re supposed to be the one asking questions. 😉 So go with it and enjoy yourself.

> [@lakerman34](#):
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> I called my buddy who is friends w/ her and he, myself, this girl, and my prom date are hopefully gonna hang out this summer. He and my prom date have a history with each other, they dated a couple of times, and I think she may be interested in the both of us. Since the girl I am trying to get with is her best friend, I figured my bud would kind of pull my prom date away from me so I can focus on this girl.
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> Teenage love. It kicks ass lol.

🙂 Careful there. If you screw that up, you’re friend might be with your date, the girl you’re interested in might either be taken by another guy or she’ll be turned off by the fact that you ditched your date for her, esp if they are best friends, regardless of whether or not her friend is with your friend - her friend’s business is hers, and her business is her own, so don’t think that because they are best friends that they would both react favorably to the situation. Either way, go balls to the wall and have fun at prom!

Oh. And being a teenager certainly has its perks, but don’t confuse ‘teenage love’ for ‘teenage lust’ or ‘teenage infatuation’. 😉 You’ll be catching feelings one way or another so try and keep your perspective straight. I know I didn’t. 🙄

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/29 "2008-06-03T00:28:09Z")

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> [@lakerman34](#):
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> I was afraid she was gonna get turned off, but she kinda just laughed? But after that, she started like talking to me about how she was trying out for select choir, about her Spanish class, her math final, IDK, I was kind of the one asking questions, but she was giving me good answers, IDK how to interpret this.

Girls love talking about themselves. Especially girls with fragile egos, which puberty really effects. On a few occasions, I’ve been told by some women that I’m a great conversationalist (FAR from the truth, I assure you!) just because I was keeping the topic on them-- their interests, what they do, what they like, dislike, etc.

I have “How to Win Friends and Influence People” by Dale Carnegie, and while it’s pretty old, it’s a great manual for getting along with people in various situations. I highly recommend it. He devoted a whole chapter about this topic. Any time you can get a person to talk about themselves while you pay honest and empathetic attention is going to be a positive experience. Especially with women.

-D4

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/30 "2008-06-03T18:12:57Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> I have “How to Win Friends and Influence People” by Dale Carnegie, and while it’s pretty old, it’s a great manual for getting along with people in various situations. I highly recommend it. He devoted a whole chapter about this topic. Any time you can get a person to talk about themselves while you pay honest and empathetic attention is going to be a positive experience. Especially with women.
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> -D4

Yes, it is very old, but it is very useful. I too recommend it if you haven’t read it before. If nothing else, it gives insights into how people feel liked, and how they can be pleased in that aspect. I applied aspects of his book when I arrived at my job last September. I couldn’t have gotten along better, especially with the numerous groundskeepers/gate keepers/etc.. I saw every day, they were always very friendly. It was nice coming to work.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/31 "2008-06-05T21:01:50Z")

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Well, I’m officially over trying to go after this girl.  
She basically called me a creeper today, which makes no sense cuz I didn’t do nothing to be creepy???

I also went and sat in front of her in class, and she moved. I KNOW that I wasn’t pushing the envelope w/ her, IDK what I did wrong…  
Oh well, there are 2 beautiful girls I’m hanging out with in the first week of summer.

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/32 "2008-06-05T22:44:19Z")

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Damn… sorry to hear that. I’d go ahead and just write her off. You don’t want to do anything that would seem hostile or stalker-like. Smile back if she smiles at you, say hello if she says it first, but otherwise, forget about her. Don’t want to get stuck with a case of oneitis.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/33 "2008-06-05T22:48:10Z")

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What happened exactly? A creeper can be a guy who is cheating on his woman, or a guy who creeps around with hella different girls, frontin all the time - somewhat like a player, but creeper is definitely negative whereas player can have a positive connotation.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/34 "2008-06-05T23:00:45Z")

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I honestly don’t know…I never knew it was a sin to walk around with other girls. I am a flirty guy, and a lot of girls do feel comfortable around me, but I definitely don’t extend myself in that way. I’m definitely not a stalker either, I don’t go looking for this girl really outside of school. I told her best friend that me, my good friend, her and the girl I like should hang out this summer, and IDK if that comes across as stalkerish???

I’ll admit, I tell all my guy friends that I think this girl is SMOKING, but I’m sure they don’t go and tell her that. I honestly don’t know what I did wrong, but I’m gonna move on and MAY come back to her if a good situation arises, which it probably won’t cuz I HATE the company of her friends (one group is all the druggies, the other is just kids that I don’t like), and her neighborhood is around 15 minutes away from me. I doubt I’m ever gonna see her this summer.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/35 "2008-06-05T23:19:05Z")

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Okay, well, she’s probably trippin then.

One thing that I’ve personally stopped doing is talking to their best friends like that. I don’t talk about who I’m trying to get with or anything. Maybe it’s just my experiences, but it usually comes back to bite me in the ass later.

Was her best friend and your good friend romantically involved already? Is there any mutual interest? Otherwise that might have been weird, on top the fact that there didn’t seem to be much pre-existing mutual interest between you and your target. You were basically sort of implying that the four of you go on a double date sometime in the summer. That’s no good.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/36 "2008-06-05T23:31:14Z")

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Yes, her best friend and my friend have dated before, and he told me that she drove him home and asked him to hangout over the summer. Also, I don’t say much to HER friends, I just said to the one girl I sit next in physics that I think she’s cute. I tell MY friends that I think she’s gorgeous.

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**Author:** ![Treseta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58f4c7/32.png) [@Treseta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Treseta)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 8:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/37 "2008-06-06T08:51:20Z")

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If the situation arises, just ask what she was talking about, and also be apologetic for somehow offending her or something while doing it.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/38 "2008-06-07T21:06:26Z")

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I straight up ignored her yesterday. As if she didn’t even exist. Didn’t even look over at her once. IDK if she was doing it to make me jealous, but she just went up to the kid that sits next to me and started like rubbing his back (and I KNOW those two don’t have nothing going on). So, to retaliate, I started talking to that same kid about a girl in my school and said how I believed she was BY FAR the most beautiful girl in the school. HAHAHAHA

IDK if that was the right way to go with it, but it doesn’t look like anything is going to happen between me and her for a LONG time.

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**Author:** ![Frost\_Fende](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/frost_fende/32/574_2.png) [@Frost\_Fende](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Frost_Fende)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-few-days-with-pheromones/13062/39 "2009-03-28T18:47:28Z")

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Sounds like sweet revenge to me 🙂

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