# My first order: Ammo, IO, IS, IJ and A314a ToGos, which combos for day and night?

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**Created:** [July 14, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236 "2011-07-14T21:59:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![SilentSeduction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@SilentSeduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SilentSeduction)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/1 "2011-07-14T21:59:19Z")

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I’m excited to share with all of you that I have finally made my first purchase. It was hard to decide what to get. I couldn’t make up my mind so I decided to get the following in the TOGO size:

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)  
IO  
IS  
IJ  
A314a

I can’t wait to receive my order and begin to experiment with the dosage of each. However, I would like the opinion of the those who have played with these products. Any combination I should try? Which is best for daily use (going to the mall, restaurants, bank, daily activitites)? And which is best suited for the nightlife (Bar/Clubs)?

Any other feedback will be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Can anyone help me figure out what the Putative and ExperiMone mones are. If there’s a thread you guys can direct me to I will appreciate it. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/2 "2011-07-14T22:37:36Z")

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> [@SilentSeduction](#):
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> I’m excited to share with all of you that I have finally made my first purchase. It was hard to decide what to get. I couldn’t make up my mind so I decided to get the following in the TOGO size:
> 
> Ammo  
> IO  
> IS  
> IJ  
> A314a
> 
> I can’t wait to receive my order and begin to experiment with the dosage of each. However, I would like the opinion of the those who have played with these products. Any combination I should try? Which is best for daily use (going to the mall, restaurants, bank, daily activitites)? And which is best suited for the nightlife (Bar/Clubs)?
> 
> Any other feedback will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> P.S. Can anyone help me figure out what the Putative and ExperiMone mones are. If there’s a thread you guys can direct me to I will appreciate it. Thanks.

Hey double S, glad to see you have taken the plunge, you will be pleased to know you have picked some fantastic products and Im sure you will be happy with your purchace.

All products should be used alone to start with so you can get a feel for how each one works before combining them, that way you know which one does which.

All except IJ are pretty safe to wear during your daily activities but I would keep IJ for nightime bars/clubs because it can be a bit in your face so to speak.

use the search function and see what other members have used together if you get stuck for any combos.

Here is a thread that may be of use to you, the answer to your question about experimones and putatives is in there.

> [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003/1):
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> Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an…

Good Luck

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**Author:** ![SilentSeduction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@SilentSeduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SilentSeduction)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/3 "2011-07-15T01:08:01Z")

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> [@THE\_GHOST](#):
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> Hey double S, glad to see you have taken the plunge, you will be pleased to know you have picked some fantastic products and Im sure you will be happy with your purchace.
> 
> All products should be used alone to start with so you can get a feel for how each one works before combining them, that way you know which one does which.
> 
> All except IJ are pretty safe to wear during your daily activities but I would keep IJ for nightime bars/clubs because it can be a bit in your face so to speak.
> 
> use the search function and see what other members have used together if you get stuck for any combos.
> 
> Here is a thread that may be of use to you, the answer to your question about experimones and putatives is in there.  
> [An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003/1)
> 
> Good Luck

Thanks for the tip The Ghost. I shall try each one on its own first as you say

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/4 "2011-07-15T10:14:06Z")

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I would say that Ammo, on its own or combined with either IS or IO is probably your best initial bet for daily wearA314 will be good for work and if you can be congruent, it adds a lot of substance to the IJ vibe but I’d keep that for going out only.Doses - well, you will need to work that one out for yourself but IME, you can be a bit more enthusiastic with the IO/IS, compared to the IJ/Ammo.Keep A314 for last as its hits can be subtle and sometimes difficullt to assess - Get some experience with the more straightforward mones first, then you will be better able to recognise what is happening. Oh and have plenty fun doing all this! 🙂

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**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/5 "2011-07-15T18:50:01Z")

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Hey Silentseduction. Mobo and Ghost have covered a fair amount already, but let’s see. Trying things individually is the best thing to do. What you want to learn is how your body chemistry interacts with these mones. For instance, when I wear [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), I’m a major asshole and people just want to fight me. For others it works with them.

There are self effects for these products you’ll want to keep an eye out for, as that’ll be important when deciding what’s appropriate to wear and when, as well as mixing to achieve an effect. shine on it’s own has good self effects.

You’ll also want to sweet spot test individually. Some mones you need more of and some you need less of, again dependent on body chemistry. You’ll want to ease up on the none (Jerk, ammo) as you can overdo it with these. With the socials (openness, shine) you can spray as much as you want, and not OD. They can also be used to buffer the effects of the none products. Also testing mones on different parts of your body can prove more effective on some places than others. The more experienced users on here are a trip because they’ll spray so and so on such and such, to achieve a particular reaction. On the arms to spread around the room..or under the shirt or behind the ears or a certain reason…one guy put a drop on his nose because he knew his gf would be kissing him..haha. Anyway. Just adding some more food for thought 🙂

And hm, you bought the to go bottle of A314? A or B bottle?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/6 "2011-07-15T19:02:00Z")

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Great advice already.

At night (clubbing or prowling) I have been experimenting with three A314 V1.23A and one spray of Ijerk. As long as you don’t mind being molested and pawed all night like a piece of meat, then your good. One of my secret combo’s I haven’t even reported on yet. Lots of fun and downright DIRTY!

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**Author:** ![SilentSeduction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@SilentSeduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SilentSeduction)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/7 "2011-07-15T19:12:19Z")

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> [@skittishsynapses](#):
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> And hm, you bought the to go bottle of A314? A or B bottle?

I got A314 A bottle…I read in the description it was more potent than the B bottle.

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**Author:** ![SilentSeduction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@SilentSeduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SilentSeduction)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/8 "2011-07-15T19:21:37Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> I would say that Ammo, on its own or combined with either IS or IO is probably your best initial bet for daily wearA314 will be good for work and if you can be congruent, it adds a lot of substance to the IJ vibe but I’d keep that for going out only.Doses - well, you will need to work that one out for yourself but IME, you can be a bit more enthusiastic with the IO/IS, compared to the IJ/Ammo.Keep A314 for last as its hits can be subtle and sometimes difficullt to assess - Get some experience with the more straightforward mones first, then you will be better able to recognise what is happening. Oh and have plenty fun doing all this! 🙂

This is great stuff Mobo! After a few days getting great feedback like yours and after reading many of the threads here I’m feeling a bit more acquainted with the mones.

> [@Steve](#):
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> Great advice already.
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> At night (clubbing or prowling) I have been experimenting with three A314 V1.23A and one spray of Ijerk. As long as you don’t mind being molested and pawed all night like a piece of meat, then your good. One of my secret combo’s I haven’t even reported on yet. Lots of fun and downright DIRTY!

LOL I’m for sure gonna try this combo…the dirtier the better IMO 😃

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/9 "2011-07-15T19:49:19Z")

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Steve’s A314/IJ can be a good one IME - I’ve had some interesting times on that but mainly with the oil.

🙂

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**Author:** ![skittishsynapses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@skittishsynapses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skittishsynapses)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-first-order-ammo-io-is-ij-and-a314a-togos-which-combos-for-day-and-night/51236/10 "2011-07-15T20:39:21Z")

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More potent doesn’t necessarily equate to better. Again, it depends on your body chemistry how you and others will react to to the mones. The to go bottles of A314 were meant for colder climates/temperatures or when you want to get further reach/affect a larger crowd. But you won’t get longer duration you would using the oil. I opted for the same per drop as the oil because I hadn’t experimented with the oil and wanted to see what would work best first.

I know you’re looking to be a lady killer..who isn’t? 😉 You’re an eager bloke, just remember test things out nice and easy. And the socials…play as big a part as the sexual mones.
