# My friends think pheromones are a scam: how to handle skeptical friends

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 20, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578 "2008-04-20T21:38:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/1 "2008-04-20T21:38:36Z")

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Hi to all the friendly & helpful people in this forum, i just feel i must type this thread. So here it goes:

As u see i have been talking to most of my friends about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) & guess what they say "Pheromone? You got to be kidding me. You are using that? And they ask me if it works (the scam ones) well i have to say the truth.

Well guess what they say “haha, you have been make a fool! That stuff is full of BS! You believe that love potion thing? You are using that to get girls dream on! haha” Imagine how i felt after hearing that ☹ I felt miserable to bashing my head to the wall ☹ Well most of my friends got pretty girlfriends so i understand their stuck up attitude. This happened before i joined this forum & before the nice people here give me a new hope on pheromones.

I welcome any opinions on this matter 🙂 Feel free to drop a reply. Thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/2 "2008-04-20T22:03:14Z")

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Why share the wealth and give them an advantage? If they weren’t so close-minded and ignorant they could easily google realms of published research in every facet of [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) roles and use.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/3 "2008-04-20T22:27:20Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> Why share the wealth and give them an advantage? If they weren’t so close-minded and ignorant they could easily google realms of published research in every facet of pheromone roles and use.

I agreed with that Gegogi 🙂 Well i thought sharing with them the wealth will also help them too but it backfired & they rained insults instead. Didn’t expect they are closed minded & ignorant, I feel sad thinking about it ☹

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/4 "2008-04-20T22:35:49Z")

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Ask them if they think they somehow escaped evolution!

Ask them how they think dogs can sense fear or anger in humans, or if they have ever felt an immediate connection to a girl.

Then tell them it’s because of pheromones and that they should climb outside their sheltered little world and belief system, and stop making idiots of themselves. 😉

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/5 "2008-04-20T22:37:03Z")

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Should be happy that they are not competing against you 😃!

Well I bet most people (I would say at least 80 percent) would be too skeptical to try.

I remember the first time I notice pheromone was from a printed ad on a newspaper, a friend and me both though they were total scam. It was 4 yrs ago. I wish I started to explore more about this and have found this place earlier 🙂

Can’t blame on anything since the ad seems pretty fake anyways, as far as I could remember

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/6 "2008-04-20T22:41:46Z")

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Hell its there loss you, tried now I would let it go and just use them without telling them.

I am glad you ordered A314 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/7 "2008-04-20T22:53:31Z")

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Ok stop talking with them and star using pheromones every time they are around you.

Its hard to influence on people that already know you .. but its possible  
and the results are priceless… (believe me)

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**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/8 "2008-04-20T22:56:53Z")

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Here is real story for you..

First my wife reacted the same way. Because in my country there are several [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) that really SUX !

After a month of usage she came and ask me to order her some pheromones too.  
Since then she used 2 Bottles of Instant sexiness .. and 6 TO GOs 😉

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**Author:** ![sony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sony](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sony)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/9 "2008-04-20T23:10:07Z")

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My bio teacher told me that “pheromones” haven’t been identified but some scientists believe that there are only little pheromones on humans. From nothing to humans, millions of species were formed, most of them didn’t have sensory structures, such as brain, smell, etc. thats when they used pheromones to attract opposite sex. Some worked, some didn’t, and most of them became extinct. I think it is just stupid to find answers in animal waste. Why would god leave the pheromones on animals if they had sensory structures especially humans. Sorry, they smell wonderful but the real truth is in my opinion there is no such thing called pheromones and if they really do, humans don’t have 'hem. Since nobody wants to attract a cat or a monkey, … i would leave that to you.

I gave up on pheromones as attracting opposite sex but i just use it because it smells good, thats all.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/10 "2008-04-20T23:36:03Z")

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Thank you all of you for giving your opinions 🙂 I’m very grateful that i have good & helpful friends here compared to my ignorant & close minded friends. May God bless you all 🙂 Seriously without you guys & girls to give me support here i would have give up on pheromone long time ago. Thank you once again 🙂

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**Author:** ![sony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sony](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sony)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/11 "2008-04-20T23:37:07Z")

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wow they didn’t show my message i wouldn’t expect it from this site. when somebody writes perfect stuff, it is allowed but when somebody gives his/her opinion on the bad side it is not allowed.???

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**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/12 "2008-04-20T23:41:42Z")

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> [@sony](#):
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> wow they didn’t show my message

sometimes your post needs to be approved before it apers on this board.  
I think this approval thing is off when you reach 50posts.  
Probably its not yet seen by any moderator.

pls have some pation.. your post will apear.

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**Author:** ![sony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sony](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sony)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/13 "2008-04-20T23:43:36Z")

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> [@idle](#):
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> sometimes your post needs to be approved before it apers on this board.  
> I think this approval thing is off when you reach 50posts.  
> Probably its not yet seen by any moderator.

I hope thats what happened 😕

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**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/14 "2008-04-20T23:46:50Z")

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> [@sony](#):
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> I hope thats what happened 😕

Here you go.. some more info

> [@Posting question](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/posting-question/10168):
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> I have posted a few times and noticed that my posts do not appear. Is there a filter on new user posts that require an administrator to approve them?

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/15 "2008-04-20T23:53:07Z")

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Hello sony, i get your message & i understand what you mean. Thanks for posting 🙂 I agreed with idle there, i myself got the same situation before but it is true you got to post 50 posts at least to get the approval thing off.

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**Author:** ![sony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sony](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sony)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/16 "2008-04-20T23:57:26Z")

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> [@PhatSounds](#):
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> Hello sony, i get your message & i understand what you mean. Thanks for posting 🙂 I agreed with idle there, i myself got the same situation too but it is true you got to post 50 posts at least to get the approval thing off.

I’m glad you understood what i mean. I’m not against it but i think it is logical isn’t it? I will have more research trust me

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/17 "2008-04-21T00:20:29Z")

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> [@sony](#):
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> wow they didn’t show my message i wouldn’t expect it from this site. when somebody writes perfect stuff, it is allowed but when somebody gives his/her opinion on the bad side it is not allowed.???

Sony there is a spam filter on the forum that effects every single new member. Without it all you would be reading is ads for viagra and cell phones. Myself and steveO try to clear all posts asap but he is on a business trip this weekend and I cant sit in front of the computer 24/7.  
Once you hit 50 posts you clear the filter.

I responded to your PM but I will say it again here. You and your BIO teacher are both entitled to your opinion. This is why they offer the guarantee. Mones are not for everyone.

For myself I have used mones for a long time and I have seen the proof of what they are capable of. Its just like any other question that is argued in science. Do you believe in the paranormal ? Do you believe in UFO’s ? Do you believe in evolution ??? Some people do and some people dont and thats fine its human nature.

Just remember believing its possible is the beginning of discovery. Discovery is what science is all about. If I was you I would ask your Bio teacher to prove they dont exist. Because I know he cant 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/18 "2008-04-21T00:53:13Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Sony there is a spam filter on the forum that effects every single new member. Without it all you would be reading is ads for viagra and cell phones. Myself and steveO try to clear all posts asap but he is on a business trip this weekend and I cant sit in front of the computer 24/7.  
> Once you hit 50 posts you clear the filter.
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> I responded to your PM but I will say it again here. You and your BIO teacher are both entitled to your opinion. This is why they offer the guarantee. pheromones are not for everyone.
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> For myself I have used pheromones for a long time and I have seen the proof of what they are capable of. Its just like any other question that is argued in science. Do you believe in the paranormal ? Do you believe in UFO’s ? Do you believe in evolution ??? Some people do and some people dont and thats fine its human nature.
> 
> Just remember believing its possible is the beginning of discovery. Discovery is what science is all about. If I was you I would ask your Bio teacher to prove they dont exist. Because I know he cant 😉
> 
> Tisha

Good explaination Lady Tisha 🙂 I can see this is a dare to the Bio Teacher.

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/19 "2008-04-21T01:02:50Z")

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> [@sony](#):
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> From nothing to humans, millions of species were formed, most of them didn’t have sensory structures, such as brain, smell, etc. thats when they used pheromones to attract opposite sex. **Some worked, some didn’t, and most of them became extinct.** I think it is just stupid to find answers in animal waste. **Why would god leave the pheromones on animals if they had sensory structures** especially humans.

Hmmm, millions of species that God allowed to go extinct?

Point 2: We know for a fact that virtually every animal to this day depend on pheromones for communication and mating. We also know that humans have a VNO, although it is now supposed to be defunct and disconnected from the brain.

We have also shown that pheromones can influence menstrual cycles in women.

You can believe what you want, but pheromones DO exist in humans and DO have an influence on our behavior.

> [@tisha23](#):
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> For myself I have used pheromones for a long time and I have seen the proof of what they are capable of. **Its just like any other question that is argued in science. Do you believe in the paranormal ? Do you believe in UFO’s ?** Do you believe in evolution ??? Some people do and some people dont and thats fine its human nature.
> 
> Just remember believing its possible is the beginning of discovery. Discovery is what science is all about. If I was you **I would ask your Bio teacher to prove they dont exist. Because I know he cant** 😉
> 
> Tisha

Comparing the Paranormal and UFO’s to pheromones is not really a fair comparison. We have proven pheromones exist in humans and identified and isolated a number of [pheromone molecules](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Androstenone, Androstenol, Androsterone and other pheromonal molecules can be isolated and extracted from human sweat.

Rather than asking the Bio teacher to prove pheromones don’t exist, I would ask him why it is that we produce the same phermonal compunds that are found in animals and are vital to their process of communication and mating.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-friends-think-pheromones-are-a-scam-how-to-handle-skeptical-friends/11578/20 "2008-04-21T01:09:39Z")

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> [@mark-in-dallas](#):
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> Hmmm, millions of species that God allowed to go extinct?
> 
> Point 2: We know for a fact that virtually every animal to this day depend on pheromones for communication and mating. We also know that humans have a VNO, although it is now supposed to be defunct and disconnected from the brain.
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> We have also shown that pheromones can influence menstrual cycles in women.
> 
> You can believe what you want, but pheromones DO exist in humans and DO have an influence on our behavior.
> 
> Comparing the Paranormal and UFO’s to pheromones is not really a fair comparison. We have proven pheromones exist in humans and identified and isolated a number of pheromone molecules. Androstenone, Androstenol, Androsterone and other pheromonal molecules can be isolated and extracted from human sweat.
> 
> Rather than asking the Bio teacher to prove pheromones don’t exist, I would ask him why it is that we produce the same phermonal compunds that are found in animals and are vital to their process of communication and mating.

Wow, that is a Pro talking there. Great explanation 🙂

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