# My hello, and the events that led me here... **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 6, 2009, 10:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-hello-and-the-events-that-led-me-here/34662 "2009-12-06T10:30:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-hello-and-the-events-that-led-me-here/34662/3 "2009-12-06T11:29:38Z")
While IG, IS, IH are good in your case I think you need the heavy artillery.If you use not so sexual [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) this will not change anything.From what I’ve read you are not sexual object for her, but more like a cool friend and this is the reason she is not intimate with you.It’s just like me and my ex gf. - she is o.k. to meet but when I try to be intimate again she rejects me and says - we are only friends now.If you do not use something to bring the sexual sparks you will just continue to be a nice friend she can hang around with.And that’s not what you want, do you? So I will say you try some androstenone product as to bring the sex vibe between you and her and the boyfriend being far away she may decide to have you as a bf insted.She might not change her mind even with androstenone, but at least this is the best phero to try in my opinion. So it’s better to use ammo witch is androstenone + some other pheromones to buffer it and to make the effect more compleate.But even tuth can bring the sex vibe in the air.Just you have to know that androstenone is powerful pheromone and if you use alot you can overdose.So start with minimum dosages as 1 or 2 sprays and try not to use many sprays 'cause when you overdose witch is not verry hard to achieve - women will be scared of you insted of attracted to you and that impression can last for some time witch is the worst thing to do.So use it wisely and it can work wonders for you. It is good to give her friendly massages while wearing ammo (better use that iunstead of tuth) or tuth, hug her as your own sister, be intimete with her like close brother to sister - nothing sexual , but intimate.If she catches the vibe and is willing to have you as bf but cannot make her mind - this will speed things up in your favour.If she doesn not want to be your gf - well even androstenone might not help but it’s the best shot you have.So my advice - use it. You can make mixes from products and some mixes are sexual.As to see what the effects of mixing products are - see that chart: > [@Phero color chart by MuskCloud: a visual guide to choosing mixes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1833): > > MuskCloud, I uploaded this in photobucket since your attachment was never approved. I hope you don’t mind. Once again, Give all props to MuskCloud. He put a lot of work into this. As an addition to the androstenone product you can add some social products too, but as from I’ve read the main problem with this girl is the lack of sexual sparks and only androstenone can help you here so it is my first advice.Second advice - you can use some social products as Instant shine for instance as to make your and the girl’s mood better,IO and IH too are good, you can use cttm2 as you to talk more ( but since u’re already close friends u’ll probably need less that product), a314 as to look more mature, laid back alpha male, but I think that your first concern should be having the sex in the air witch is ammo or tuth ( IJ also, but it’s kind of too strong androstenone and can scare the girl witch is not good and better not to experiment with IJ around her ). So wish you luck and hope you two have good time together.😉 --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-hello-and-the-events-that-led-me-here/34662)._