# My initial review of MX297 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 5, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744 "2010-12-05T06:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/1 "2010-12-05T06:42:13Z")
So today was a good day to take out [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) and try it out for the first time. Weather: Cloudy, 21º L - 32º H Application Time : 12pm Spray points: Neck/Upper Chest area # of Sprays: 1 (guesstimate since there were a few spews here and there) **Initial Impression:** The smell is powerful and strong. I believe this has the Akuto scent. Almost 7 hours later and I can still smell it **Self Effect:** I was in a good mood most of the day. I was confident, somewhat playful (but that could be just the mood I am in). Although after 5 hours or so, I started to get a migraine, and it continued on until now (its almost midnight). This could be due to another factor, but I’ll have to find out when I try it again. However I was not the only one who had this same exact negative reaction (more later). **Effect on others:** _ **Setting: BANK** _ - Bank teller waived the “Cashier’s Check” fee - Bank Manager came to find if everything was OK with my service _**Setting: My family business (Specialty grocery store)**_ - A customer, who is very shy and married, was rather flirty, talkative and was attentive to what I said. - Her kids were very pleasant. She was surprised as they normally don’t like to speak with strangers. - Another customer (not so cute) seemed rather talkative and flirty. She usually comes in and does little talking. - My employee commented “I’m jealous of you, I’ve been trying to get her to pay attention and talk to me for months, and you managed it in less than 5” - My business competition hugged me (instead of shaking my hands) when he saw me. - My father was not as “nagging” as he normally is. I didn’t feel like working much today so he was OK with it. “Do it whenever you feel like it” - I convinced some of the customers I talked to to buy things they weren’t planning on buying Now, one of the only negatives I noticed (and rather odd) that I have yet to confirm that is MX297 related: Headaches. My brother and mother were around me the most today, and they both suffered headaches, and theirs went away after we went home, while mine is still lingering (as I type this). Its not normal that my migraines last that long, especially when I take my medication. Overall, I think I had some very blatant hits from MX297. I think it is similar to A314 and Ammo, but of course with less amount applied (2x A314, 2-3x Ammo) vs 1x MX297. I will have to try again with the same dosage and a different setting (my job, around lunch) ---
**Author:** ![ppHamelin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pphamelin/32/758_2.png) [@ppHamelin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ppHamelin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 8:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/2 "2010-12-05T08:13:45Z")
Thanks, great report. May I ask, which side did you get the headache? Was it full head or left/right only? > [@Morphious](#): > > So today was a good day to take out MX297 and try it out for the first time. > > Weather: Cloudy, 21º L - 32º H > Application Time : 12pm > Spray points: Neck/Upper Chest area > > # of Sprays: 1 (guesstimate since there were a few spews here and there) > > **Initial Impression:** > The smell is powerful and strong. I believe this has the Akuto scent. Almost 7 hours later and I can still smell it > > **Self Effect:** > I was in a good mood most of the day. I was confident, somewhat playful (but that could be just the mood I am in). Although after 5 hours or so, I started to get a migraine, and it continued on until now (its almost midnight). This could be due to another factor, but I’ll have to find out when I try it again. However I was not the only one who had this same exact negative reaction (more later). > > **Effect on others:** > > _ **Setting: BANK** _ > > - Bank teller waived the “Cashier’s Check” fee > - Bank Manager came to find if everything was OK with my service > > _**Setting: My family business (Specialty grocery store)**_ > > - A customer, who is very shy and married, was rather flirty, talkative and was attentive to what I said. > - Her kids were very pleasant. She was surprised as they normally don’t like to speak with strangers. > - Another customer (not so cute) seemed rather talkative and flirty. She usually comes in and does little talking. > - My employee commented “I’m jealous of you, I’ve been trying to get her to pay attention and talk to me for months, and you managed it in less than 5” > - My business competition hugged me (instead of shaking my hands) when he saw me. > - My father was not as “nagging” as he normally is. I didn’t feel like working much today so he was OK with it. “Do it whenever you feel like it” > - I convinced some of the customers I talked to to buy things they weren’t planning on buying > > Now, one of the only negatives I noticed (and rather odd) that I have yet to confirm that is MX297 related: Headaches. My brother and mother were around me the most today, and they both suffered headaches, and theirs went away after we went home, while mine is still lingering (as I type this). Its not normal that my migraines last that long, especially when I take my medication. > > Overall, I think I had some very blatant hits from MX297. I think it is similar to A314 and Ammo, but of course with less amount applied (2x A314, 2-3x Ammo) vs 1x MX297. > > I will have to try again with the same dosage and a different setting (my job, around lunch) ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/3 "2010-12-05T08:33:12Z")
> [@ppHamelin](#): > > Thanks, great report. > May I ask, which side did you get the headache? Was it full head or left/right only? It was the left side! Which is a very good question you brought up. It made me realize that that I normally get it on the right side!! But like I stated before, this is only my first time applying [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), and it could be that this is not related. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/4 "2010-12-05T08:39:14Z")
I used to get a phero rush the first few times I started using [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/). It’s either a phero bomb or the molecules in there have that kind of effect in there. I’m almost certain there is a P70’s in there too which during my testing has given that kind of head rush, you may just be reacting to it differently. However if you see this continues on, I would just discontinue using it and possibly ask a doctor. ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/5 "2010-12-06T19:09:10Z")
Today’s review: Weather: BRRRRR Cold/Snow, 21º L - 28º H Application Time: 12pm Spray points: Neck (Sides) # Of Sprays: 2 **Initial Impression:** I think the smell grows on you and I’m starting to like it. It was too powerful when I applied it in the office I had some people pass by that thought I showered with it HA HA HA **Self-Effect:** Immediately I felt a bit of a rush and slightly light headed, but for a brief one minute. My posture was full of confidence. A few times, I caught myself commenting and throwing out jokes on conversations of others (which I never do). I do feel really good and focused. **Effect on others:** _**Setting: Work Cafe (Lunch Time)**_ I figured lunchtime would be a good time to test this today because not a lot of people are going out to lunch because of the snow and bad roads. So I sprayed it and went to the Cafe to pick up something to eat. Here are some rather strange hits I received · A Manager who I know passed me from far and waved (not knowing it was I) saying, “Hello Sir, how are you today?” When he got close to me, he was like “Oh My I didn’t recognize you. I thought you were someone else” and laughed. He is a friend of mine, but nonetheless. · Two similar incidents, about two buildings apart. Each incident involved a guy carrying their lunch, grunting and then almost tripping on carpeting. · I was the only one sitting on a big table that can seat 4 others, and a similar table was moved close to mine. What’ strange is that this older woman brought her lunch and asked me “Sir, do you mind if I sit on this table?” “I didn’t know if you were going to have others joining you” was her answer to my puzzled look. · On the other table behind me, a new employee who I met once said “Hi there… I know your name, MO, right?” Then he went on and on talking about his weekend and having to put overtime. Then he said, “Well I will see you next week for the special project meeting”. Convo was rather relaxed and out of the blue (caught me by surprise). · I was stopped a couple of times be other co-workers and chit-chatted a bit in the hallway on the way back from lunch. This is a hit because 99% of the time they don’t do that. They are always in a rush to go somewhere else or do something else. Convos went rather at length · I had a few males/females stare at me, and couldn’t tell what the it was for. I was only passing them by. The question I have for some of the others who used [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/). Did you ever OD on MX297? In particular, how did it compare to your sweet spot to Ammo and A314 respectively? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/6 "2010-12-07T00:20:05Z")
I’m not sure that a comparison to [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or A314 would even matter. Every mix is autonomous of itself, especially A314, and therefore it wouldn’t even really matter. Since they all contain different ingredients you are asking how many shots someone needs to get drunk 🙂. The questions then arise of what type of alcohol? What’s the alcohol per volume? Both key factors in determining someones drunkenness. Liked the report though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/7 "2010-12-07T02:05:47Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I’m not sure that a comparison to Ammo or A314 would even matter. Every mix is autonomous of itself, especially A314, and therefore it wouldn’t even really matter. Since they all contain different ingredients you are asking how many shots someone needs to get drunk 🙂. The questions then arise of what type of alcohol? What’s the alcohol per volume? Both key factors in determining someones drunkenness. > > Liked the report though 🙂 Aha!!! You do have a very good point, but I also have a very good reason for asking. Yes, they do have very unique molecular structure, but I am sure they have some similarities. I will explain using the drinking analogy you started 🙂 Lets say a lightweight person drinks and know that if they have more than 6 beers they blackout. And when doing shots, their limit is only 3, as they black out if the take more than 3 shots. that’s 1:2 ratio of shots to beer. Take the other person who can drink 12 beers before he passes out. Using the fact that they can tolerate more alcohol, we can assume (until proven), that they can take about 6 shots (1:2 ratio) before passing out. Now, what I was trying to figure out here by my question is to compare the results of others and see if there is some ratio of how many shots each person applied before they OD using [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), Ammo and A314 respectively. Call me crazy, but I am curious ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/8 "2010-12-07T06:20:01Z")
You may have to define OD on how it means to you. With enough drops of 314 people will steer clear of you and give you a healthy amount of space and respect. That may be the effect you want or it might not be. I’ve used a lot of 297 and one of my most memorable hits have been with 3 drops 314 and 3 sprays of 297. This was two older asian women that responded extremely well… But recently I did 2 sprays of 297 and 1 spray of ammo 2x and I had a guy just trying to steer clear of me. I saw a similar effect with a younger female cashier. Just uncomfortable. OD here for me is undesired effects as a result of high amounts. Some differences I can think of is diffusion rates, age and my overall health. Age may have been a factor as far as the ammo 2x for the young girl. I’ve used this combination before and had excellent results with other women. My overall physique has changed since the first example and I’ve been using Tribulus on a regular basis and working out a lot. I probably have a higher none count now than when I first started using mones. The first example was when it was 90+ degrees and maybe the stuff had diffused quite a bit by the time my targets were hit. The second example was when it was much cooler outside. Both examples took place indoors. Despite all the stories involving pherobombing-which is a lot of fun… Less is more. For me, I feel I’ve had much better overall responses when I scaled back the amount of 314 as well as 297. one drop of 297 and one spray of 314 worked much more nicely than when I had on more- one particular girl would never look at me for very long. When I dropped it back she was more bold in her interactions. There is only one way to find out where **you** OD. Sure other people may report similar results but you should have fun playing around and seeing just where your thresholds are. ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/9 "2010-12-07T06:43:05Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > You may have to define OD on how it means to you. > > With enough drops of 314 people will steer clear of you and give you a healthy amount of space and respect. That may be the effect you want or it might not be. > > I’ve used a lot of 297 and one of my most memorable hits have been with 3 drops 314 and 3 sprays of 297. This was two older asian women that responded extremely well… > > But recently I did 2 sprays of 297 and 1 spray of ammo 2x and I had a guy just trying to steer clear of me. I saw a similar effect with a younger female cashier. Just uncomfortable. > > OD here for me is undesired effects as a result of high amounts. > > Some differences I can think of is diffusion rates, age and my overall health. > > Age may have been a factor as far as the ammo 2x for the young girl. I’ve used this combination before and had excellent results with other women. > > My overall physique has changed since the first example and I’ve been using Tribulus on a regular basis and working out a lot. I probably have a higher none count now than when I first started using mones. > > The first example was when it was 90+ degrees and maybe the stuff had diffused quite a bit by the time my targets were hit. > > The second example was when it was much cooler outside. Both examples took place indoors. > > Despite all the stories involving pherobombing-which is a lot of fun… > > Less is more. > > For me, I feel I’ve had much better overall responses when I scaled back the amount of 314 as well as 297. one drop of 297 and one spray of 314 worked much more nicely than when I had on more- one particular girl would never look at me for very long. When I dropped it back she was more bold in her interactions. > > There is only one way to find out where **you** OD. > > Sure other people may report similar results but you should have fun playing around and seeing just where your thresholds are. Thanks for your response. But I guess my question was not clear. I know where sweetspots for Ammo, and A314, and yet trying to find mine with [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/). I probably should’ve used the word SWEETSPOT instead of OD above. Regardless of the the weather condition (which plays a role in how long the effects last). I am trying to find the relationship ratio wise, to see if there is a pattern between the ratios of all other users. For example, tester 1 may OD using A314 @2, Ammo @4 and MX297 @2. Tester may have the same ratios of 1:2:1 but at a higher dosage (i.e A314 @3, Ammo @6 and MX297 @3). Since each persons’ body reacts the same to molecules due to our body chemistry, this 1:2:1 ratio from above could be the same for everyone. I’m trying to see if my theory is right. Maybe if some who used all 3 (individually, not in a mix) can share their sweetspots for each might help drive my point (or nullify it) ---
**Author:** ![Ftordces](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7feea3/32.png) [@Ftordces](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ftordces)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/10 "2010-12-07T07:20:17Z")
> [@Morphious](#): > > Thanks for your response. But I guess my question was not clear. I know where sweetspots for Ammo, and A314, and yet trying to find mine with MX297. I probably should’ve used the word SWEETSPOT instead of OD above. > > Regardless of the the weather condition (which plays a role in how long the effects last). I am trying to find the relationship ratio wise, to see if there is a pattern between the ratios of all other users. > > For example, tester 1 may OD using A314 @2, Ammo @4 and MX297 @2. > Tester may have the same ratios of 1:2:1 but at a higher dosage (i.e A314 @3, Ammo @6 and MX297 @3). > > Since each persons’ body reacts the same to molecules due to our body chemistry, this 1:2:1 ratio from above could be the same for everyone. I’m trying to see if my theory is right. > > Maybe if some who used all 3 (individually, not in a mix) can share their sweetspots for each might help drive my point (or nullify it) Well Morpheous my ratios are 1:4:1, but then because of my age I have a lower none count and after I started using and researching mones I’ve realized I have a higher rone signature. Because of these factors I can wear a lot of none based products but, get undesired effect with more than one application of A314 or [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/). Specially with A314 a drop is perfect but if I wear 2 drops I get a lot of personal space and @ 3 people steer clear from me. I did the testing a while back that’s the results I came up with. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/11 "2010-12-07T14:39:28Z")
> [@Morphious](#): > > Maybe if some who used all 3 (individually, not in a mix) can share their sweetspots for each might help drive my point (or nullify it) AMMO x3 A314 x3 [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) x3 These are my upper sweet spots, my preference for mixes are between 1-3 though depending on what my layering is. When going out I would use (for myself) A314x1, AMMO x2, MX297 x2 Edit: I’ve also added in other stuff in those mixes, had to edit to make that clear ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/12 "2010-12-07T21:22:44Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > you may have to define od on how it means to you. > > With enough drops of 314 people will steer clear of you and give you a healthy amount of space and respect. That may be the effect you want or it might not be. > > I’ve used a lot of 297 and one of my most memorable hits have been with 3 drops 314 and 3 sprays of 297. This was two older asian women that responded extremely well… > > But recently i did 2 sprays of 297 and 1 spray of ammo 2x and i had a guy just trying to steer clear of me. I saw a similar effect with a younger female cashier. Just uncomfortable. > > Od here for me is undesired effects as a result of high amounts. > > Some differences i can think of is diffusion rates, age and my overall health. > > Age may have been a factor as far as the ammo 2x for the young girl. I’ve used this combination before and had excellent results with other women. > > My overall physique has changed since the first example and i’ve been using tribulus on a regular basis and working out a lot. I probably have a higher none count now than when i first started using mones. > > The first example was when it was 90+ degrees and maybe the stuff had diffused quite a bit by the time my targets were hit. > > The second example was when it was much cooler outside. Both examples took place indoors. > > Despite all the stories involving pherobombing-which is a lot of fun… > > Less is more. > > For me, i feel i’ve had much better overall responses when i scaled back the amount of 314 as well as 297. One drop of 297 and one spray of 314 worked much more nicely than when i had on more- one particular girl would never look at me for very long. When i dropped it back she was more bold in her interactions. > > There is only one way to find out where **you** od. > > Sure other people may report similar results but you should have fun playing around and seeing just where your thresholds are. ok - crazy!😉 ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-initial-review-of-mx297/43744/13 "2010-12-07T21:44:10Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > ok - crazy!😉 LOL OK I know I am Crazy, but geeeez!!!