# my Instant Infatuation mix

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 22, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369 "2009-02-22T05:11:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/1 "2009-02-22T05:11:51Z")

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I’ve been playing around with this combo for a week or two now, and I’m really liking it. It’s created sweet, teenage-like, puppy dog devotion in guys I’ve spent quality time with (10 minutes and over, I’m estimating). I’ve mentioned it a couple of times, but here is what I’m happy with as far as producing the type of hits I described above:

[EST](https://phera.com/) @ 50mcg  
P86 @ 25mcg  
[TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) @ 30mcg  
betanol @ 60mcg  
cops  
Pink Sugar cover

I apply the cops first to my wrists and neck, and then spray the individual components to the back of my head/neck. If I need more than one spray to achieve the dosage listed above, I’ll put one spray on the backs of my hands (of everything except betanol. I keep that away from my front so it doesn’t affect me, because I can be a motormouth).

What I’ve gotten from guys who get a good ten minutes or more exposure is deep, dreamy-eyed looks straight into the eyes, with glances down to my mouth (and occasionally down further, but the horndog aspect of this mix doesn’t show up extremely often) that have turned into outright stares a few times. This isn’t like a DIHL, it’s that “I’m thinking about kissing you” look. I get a lot of extended eye contact from men across the room (10 feet or so, I’m guessing) in the restaurants and coffee shops I’ve been in, whether they are alone or with other women! Deep audible breathing. As expected with betanol, a lot of deep conversation, and if there are other people present, they all act as if they are in competition to talk, to tell me things, to make me laugh.

From my wannabe-TG, I also see increased nervousness which he also seems to be struggling to hide. I’ll do a bit of armchair psychology here and say this may be because he’s fighting with himself over whether he’s as into me as he’s feeling or not. He doesn’t want to be, at least according to the things he’s said before. Not that that’s a personal thing; he’s just not ready for a relationship (or said he wasn’t a couple of months ago. This fact has not come up since.) I know he likes me as a person, and pheros or not, we have been getting a lot closer. If things continued the way they are without the influence of pheros, I think we would be heading down the same exact path, the pheros are just making things move quicker and **heavier** , and I think he’s struggling with this. I may start backing off on this mix with him and just go with straight socials.

From about an hour ago: I was out to dinner with a group of friends, and a few acquaintances came along that I’ve only met a handful of times before. One of the latter is a musician in his mid 40’s who’s pretty sociable and outgoing, a little eccentric, with a hefty dose of male swagger (in other words, your basic rock musician.) He’s also a confirmed bachelor. Never been married, never wants to be. He sat directly across from me and gave me the googly eyes I described above off and on throughout dinner. At one point I put my purse on the table in front of me to fish something out of it, and he burst into the conversation to say “I’m sorry, but I have to tell you that I love your purse. I feel like I shouldn’t be saying this because I know how everyone will take it, but I think it’s just great. I don’t know why” and he _ **sighed** _. (My purse is a standard no-frills black leather Fossil purse. Certainly not anything a man, gay or straight, would go out of his way to compliment.) Everyone else at the table had this face: 😮 He later gave an extended soliloque on how he will get a cardboard standup of me to take on his next tour so he could put it on stage. _This time,_ everyone (including me) was like this: 😕 I mean, even _I_ was puzzled by this news, and I knew what was up.

The funny thing I have encountered with this mix is that [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) seems to obliterate the dreamy love factor, and makes it into a horndog mix. The Tex Avery zoot suit wolf comes out instead of the knight professing his undying love. And that’s just adding 12.5mcg of the stuff. I tried that twice and decided to nix the idea of P83 altogether with this.

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/2 "2009-02-22T13:56:43Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> It’s created sweet, teenage-like, puppy dog devotion in guys I’ve spent quality time with (10 minutes and over, I’m estimating).
> 
> [EST](https://phera.com/) @ 50mcg  
> P86 @ 25mcg  
> [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) @ 30mcg  
> betanol @ 60mcg  
> cops  
> Pink Sugar cover
> 
> What I’ve gotten from guys who get a good ten minutes or more exposure is deep, dreamy-eyed looks straight into the eyes, with glances down to my mouth (and occasionally down further, but the horndog aspect of this mix doesn’t show up extremely often) that have turned into outright stares a few times. This isn’t like a DIHL, it’s that “I’m thinking about kissing you” look.

This sounds like a brilliant mix! I think I might try it on my TG, he’s an alpha type and seems to respond _alot more_ to TAH than TAL 🙂 I mean, he does give very clear IOI’s when I wear TAL heavy combos, and I’ve gotten some great hits with him using those…but the other day I used a plain mix of TAH and cops… He behaved in a manner that’s sooo unlike him… he was all nervous and mumbling when talking to me 🙄

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/3 "2009-02-22T17:46:18Z")

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i wear  
EST  
betanol  
TAL  
P86  
cops

brown sugar cover

to work as my default mix.

_your mix with TAL instead of TAH_.

makes me money everytime.  
your right, _great mix._

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/4 "2009-02-22T21:21:07Z")

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I just noticed selva’s signature mentions “dreaming of Prince Charming” and wanted to add that I went to bed relatively early last night in regards to when I applied this mix, so it was still working its magic on me while I slept. I had vivid, intense dreams all night of the wannabe-TG.

I just wish that when one had such dreams, they were a shared experience with the other person, so they are dreaming the same exact thing at the same time. 😃

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/5 "2009-02-22T21:27:01Z")

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I also want to say that I don’t get the P86 drowsiness that everyone else has mentioned. I’ve only tried up to 50mcg, though. I haven’t noticed it making other people around me tired, either, but where I work people are always commenting on how tired they are due to the stressful nature of our workplace.

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/6 "2009-02-22T21:47:45Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> makes me money everytime.  
> your right, _great mix._

Lor, have you tried this with P79 before?

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/7 "2009-02-23T03:32:36Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> Lor, have you tried this with P79 before?

i have not tried this with P79,  
although i have tried IH , IS/a + b , shine, cops, TAL, TAH, and other putatives with P79.

P79 is great with almost all things but for me i have to keep the dosage low.

have you tried it with P79 yet?  
do tell!!!  
🙂

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/8 "2009-02-23T03:41:01Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> I just noticed selva’s signature mentions “dreaming of Prince Charming” and wanted to add that I went to bed relatively early last night in regards to when I applied this mix, so it was still working its magic on me while I slept. I had vivid, intense dreams all night of the wannabe-TG.

LOL hahahaha!!! Poor you!

> [@ariadne](#):
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> I just wish that when one had such dreams, they were a shared experience with the other person, so they are dreaming the same exact thing at the same time. 😃

I know, that would be amazing _sigh_ 😃

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/9 "2009-02-23T03:41:49Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> have you tried it with P79 yet?  
> do tell!!!  
> 🙂

No, but I was thinking about adding a smidge.

What is a low dosage of P79 in your estimation?

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/10 "2009-02-23T03:49:40Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> No, but I was thinking about adding a smidge.
> 
> What is a low dosage of P79 in your estimation?

i think my P79 was in a 7.5mu to-go.  
i wil have to ask Tommy Fever,it might have been 2.5mu.  
when i was pairing it up, i remembered 1 spray was all it took to work without overwhelming me.  
i think Tommy Fever here has it though.

sigh…  
may have to order more.

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**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/11 "2009-02-23T05:23:39Z")

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o man, that sounds like an awesome mix 🙂

will try that ASAP, except replace TAH for TAL 😉  
\<3

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/12 "2009-02-23T05:33:36Z")

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Question: What is betanol? And how can I get me some?

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/13 "2009-02-23T06:06:24Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
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> Question: What is betanol? And how can I get me some?

Beta-androstenol, which you can get from Androtics. It’s a component in Instant Honesty (75% betanol/25% alphanol) and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (75%alphanol/25%betanol).

The androstenols are communication/sociability pheromones. Alpha-androstenol promotes light-hearted conversation and makes one more approachable. Beta-androstenol promotes deeper, more heart-felt communication and bonding, almost gives and “old friend” vibe. It can seem less approachable than alpha-androstenol, but my theory on that is because fewer people feel comfortable with the level of bonding betanol can promote with a stranger or acquaintance. So I think people may resist its effects slightly at first, but once they’re drawn in, they’re hooked.

Both of these can cause diarrhea of the mouth, so be careful.

I have read that betanol can also be a depressant for some people, but I’ve not seen nor felt this reaction, personally.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/14 "2009-02-23T06:11:53Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> Beta-androstenol, which you can get from Androtics. It’s a component in Instant Honesty (75% betanol/25% alphanol) and Instant Openness (75%alphanol/25%betanol).
> 
> The androstenols are communication/sociability pheromones. Alpha-androstenol promotes light-hearted conversation and makes one more approachable. Beta-androstenol promotes deeper, more heart-felt communication and bonding, almost gives and “old friend” vibe. It can seem less approachable than alpha-androstenol, but my theory on that is because fewer people feel comfortable with the level of bonding betanol can promote with a stranger or acquaintance. So I think people may resist its effects slightly at first, but once they’re drawn in, they’re hooked.
> 
> Both of these can cause diarrhea of the mouth, so be careful.
> 
> I have read that betanol can also be a depressant for some people, but I’ve not seen nor felt this reaction, personally.

Thanks. I’m slowly figuring out whats in each of these products. Pretty soon I’ll know just what to use based on if it has TAH or maybe if it had TAL. I just hope I can remember all these.

Also, I remember some people talking about how IH effects them like a depressant, but this has never happened for me. The only thing is does that’s similar to that is make me calmer…at least when I spray it with IS/a.

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**Author:** ![Takhisis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Takhisis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Takhisis)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/15 "2009-02-25T23:27:18Z")

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ariadne, that sounds like an awesome mix. It’s something similar that that TG responds really well to: I/H and MX106 instead of betanol and EST.

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/16 "2009-03-11T22:51:15Z")

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excellent reporting. I am glad P86 is finally getting it’s due.

Just goes to show that even molecules that have been around for quite a while still have the potential to be winners, they just need more testing to figure out what it is they do.

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**Author:** ![KatieA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katiea/32/1225_2.png) [@KatieA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KatieA)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-instant-infatuation-mix/26369/17 "2009-03-12T05:22:44Z")

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Im going to try this mix out tomorrow, thanks. 😉

Except I think I’ll replace TAH with TAL also, and I don’t have the Pink Sugar Cover part, but Im going to try this mix to the best of what I have haha. Much love for this mix\<3

I’ll tell you how it goes!
