# My Journal (With and Without the Pheromones) **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [January 27, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396 "2009-01-27T00:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/222 "2009-08-26T17:38:23Z")
Ugh, school is finally here and I’m so nervous… Will be reporting on my combo later. For now… I decided to wear 8 sprays of P83 around new TG. I also added some EST, which I don’t think is working ☹, and some [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). Later I added 2 more sprays of P83, 7 drops of cops (4 were added to lotion) and 1 spray of IShine. Before the second addition of pheros TG was a little less talkative around me. It was like the new molecule was scaring him a little. He talked to me friend mostly, whos also a good friend of his. After the second addition and some added cops I began to notice guys from another frat house taking some interest. I’d get looks, conversations were longer, and I got two shoulder bumps/nudges from guys. TG wasn’t as entranced. We actually didn’t kiss much on the porch. And it kinda sucked because he had to get up early the next day so we had to part ways sooner than usual. However, I think the cops gave me a little more time with him because he kept saying he needed to walk me back to my apt, but then we’d kiss again and it turn into this really long make out session and then we’d talk for a long time and mins turned into hours. Sooo…we didn’t end up heading back till past 2:30 am. I’m willing to bet if I hadn’t of been so considerate that he would have just let me stay there, but of course I had to be the considerate and understanding one. School has started now so I’m not sure how much I’ll see TG. Even if he is just a few mins away (walking distance). We haven’t become official yet, but I think if we did end up together it’d probably be one of the healthiest relationships I’ve ever been in because I’m trying to be more independent and he is very independent. This will be the ultimate test to see how independent I can become. ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/223 "2009-08-26T20:27:28Z")
It has been fascinating to see the transformation in you. You seem so much more assertive and confident than you were before. Atta-girl! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/224 "2009-08-27T01:18:05Z")
> [@moonwhisper](#): > > It has been fascinating to see the transformation in you. You seem so much more assertive and confident than you were before. > > Atta-girl! It’s funny. I was thinking the same thing too. Especially because so far, at least this semester, I’ve made so many good choices that are going to benefit me in the long run. Like yoga and dating someone who will help me be more independent. I’m not only bettering myself but growing a little each time in the process. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/225 "2009-08-27T18:54:26Z")
Very interesting results yesterday…and not all due to pheros.. So as it’s been know (or as I’ve been saying recently) I have found a new TG. He’s shown me how to really be myself and be more independent. Really got me closer to my full potential. It’s made me sorta forget the other TG, so I’m no longer obsessed with him. But back up a bit. **MX274:** 3 (neck) **IShine:** 1 to neck **P79:** 2 (neck, arm) Talked to a girl I’ve never really had a conversation with for at least 5 mins. And that was only because the teacher was starting the class. This is a girl I know, but have never said much, if anything, to. And the girl behind me also joined in our conversation. It was random stuff, but it seemed important to us. My next class the girl beside me kept looking at me, but I think she was trying to figure out if she knew me or not. Got some kids in the class to laugh because I wasn’t counting up stuff right. And later the teacher sat right behind me as she was giving the lecture. My last class my yoga teacher kept forgetting my blankets, but was really nice to me. I wonder if the pheros had any effect at that point tho because it was already several hours since I’d applied the pheros. **Now back to the whole TG business…** TG (old TG) was looking to get some drinks and wanted me to get them and come hang out. I hadn’t heard from New TG since he’d passed out after working out, and hadn’t seen him all day so I figured he wanted his time to himself (me trying to be independent and let him do the same) so I accepted TG’s invitation and headed over. I’m pretty sure by then the pheros had all gone…or at least I thought they had…my scarf still smelled like MX274 however. TG appreciated the fact that I still smelled good, but that it wasn’t choking him x.x He was really nice to me that night. Poked fun a few times, but still nice. He even offered me something to drink even when I declined twice, and then finally just brought me out something. He said I seemed a bit on edge (first day of school) yet he some how tolerated it. I’m pretty sure that being with New TG for a week has changed me so much, and TG told me he could see the difference. Said I seemed more independent. He kept making subtle hints that he wanted me, but I was very neutral that night because of New TG being on my mind. In a way I wanted TG too, but I wasn’t going to act on it just like that. Later TG took a big huff of my scarf and told me (and this is after he’d made fun of the scarf) that I looked good in scarfs and that he really liked it on me. I was surprised to get even a compliment from him… And then he was disappointed when I took it off and told me to put it back on. And he kept telling me to put it back on the whole night. He was in love with that thing. Soooo…I’m pretty sure the MX274 had something to do with it. Guess I’ll be wearing that scarf again 😜 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/226 "2009-08-27T18:55:04Z")
\*pheromones rock! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/227 "2009-08-27T19:00:25Z")
Note: Sometimes I wonder if I’ll ever get rid of (old) TG… It’s not like I want to, but sometimes I wonder if moving on would just be better…but I don’t want to ruin any plans God may have…so I’m just gonna let whatever happens happen. If him and me are meant for each other then I guess we’re meant for each other. So far we’ve lasted this long…we haven’t gotten tired of each other…and through everything we somehow manage to be there for each other… So I have no idea where this journey will take both of us. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/228 "2009-08-28T04:00:23Z")
An interesting thought. My brush I use to apply make up had the scent of EOW on it. And I remember using it to cover the big red mark that the EOW had left so I’m not surprised it stunk. Tonight I got a few reactions from guys that suggested the EOW on the brush could have had an effect…Got a few hits, which is weird for me. I haven’t taken a shower today either so I wonder if my natural smell is coming thru. I have been ovulating lately. I’m a little afraid to go without pheros, but after feeling strange wearing them for 2 nights in a row I wonder if I should just take a break. Still contemplating. Sad night tho… (new) TG is out for the night drinking at a pub. He’s 21 and I’m 19 so I can’t go, obviously. Not worried about him talking to anyone else, but I do miss him. Haven’t seen him in two days now ☹ ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/229 "2009-08-28T04:20:01Z")
You get a red mark from the EOW, too? That happened to me last time I used it, but I hadn’t noticed it before that. Where do you apply it? ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/230 "2009-08-28T04:29:28Z")
> [@moonwhisper](#): > > You get a red mark from the EOW, too? That happened to me last time I used it, but I hadn’t noticed it before that. Where do you apply it? Yeah, it’s from the chemicals in the mix. I usually apply to the neck, chest, and or arms. ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/231 "2009-08-28T05:14:54Z")
I usually apply to the cleavage area, and get no redness. The other day I applied to the neck, in the front at the base of my throat, and got instant red blotch that took hours to go away. ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/232 "2009-08-28T12:49:52Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > It’s funny. I was thinking the same thing too. Especially because so far, at least this semester, I’ve made so many good choices that are going to benefit me in the long run. Like yoga and dating someone who will help me be more independent. I’m not only bettering myself but growing a little each time in the process. That’s cool. I just started taking yoga too, and I love it! It’s good too when you find someone who allows you to grow, be who you are meant to be. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/233 "2009-08-28T16:38:21Z")
Yeah, I think I found a good guy. I’m just getting over the idea that I can’t see him every night. I’m so used to being so close to my bf’s that this is so new for me. I just hope I don’t lose it not seeing him and scare him off. ---
**Author:** ![lalalove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c0e974/32.png) [@lalalove](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lalalove)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/234 "2009-08-29T00:07:13Z")
If you stay focused with a clear mind and you trust him, then I’m sure you’ll do fine. 🙂 I hope you all the best! \<3 lalalove ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/235 "2009-08-31T00:41:02Z")
**Ugh! Shoot me now!** Ok not really… Sprayed on 2 sprays of IShine to the face about an hour ago. Was feeling terrible because (new) TG pretty much rejected me when I asked if he wanted to be in a relationship. He’d been okay with it up until now…not sure what changed his mind. Maybe wearing all these sprays is freakin him out. So I was pretty sad. Almost cried. Didn’t have any spaceland in the car, but remembered I had some IShine. Was definitely a life saver. Before I knew it I was singing and dancing in the car without a care in the world. Later at my apt my friend and me were acting pretty happy even tho we were cleaning. It was so easy to laugh. And when her boyfriend came in he was talking to me more than usual and asked me if I thought he was cute. LMAO. Fun stuff. Still feeling good. I think I’m going out tonight… going to TG’s frat house… will be wearing Spaceland or perhaps some A-nol with IShine so I should be fine. Maybe sneak in some Meo-EST. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Good times. GOOOOOOD TIMES. ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/236 "2009-08-31T18:14:19Z")
I probably would have been bawling! That’s strange how he changed his mind on you regarding your relationship. But you’re young, so there’s really no rush.😉 Well, I’m glad the pheros put you in an upbeat mood. Most of these guys are not worth one tear. Keep it moving, and he’ll probably realize what a dunce he is when he sees you all happy and positive.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rosegirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rosegirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rosegirl)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/237 "2009-08-31T20:03:14Z")
Sorry about your TG happykitsune. I don’t write on this forum much, but I do read it daily; sounds like he is missing out on a great girl. You never know, maybe he just doesn’t want a _serious_ relationship with _anyone_ right now. Many guys don’t at 21. Keep your chin up though. 🙂 I think your post has convinced me to try [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I have other pheros but have yet to try this one. Sounds like it put you in a great mood despite your news. Take care, Rosegirl ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/238 "2009-08-31T20:30:02Z")
**An update on the new TG situation…** I texted him last night…I wasn’t going to at all, but I did anyways because the question to why he wasn’t wanting to be in a relationship was eating at me. I ended up going to his frat house and talking with him face to face. He told me that after not being in a relationship for 2 years it was hard for him to make it official. And yes he did mention that he didn’t want it to be serious. At least not just yet. I told him that right now I was looking for someone I could hang out with like a friend, but that I could have an intimate relationship with as well…but of course we’d be our own independent people and not conjoined at the hip haha. He invited me over tonight to just hang which I’m guessing means he still feels comfortable around me to just chill without it being awkward, which is good because thats one step closer to getting him to feel comfortable enough to be in a relationship with me. I think I’m on the right track so far. Every time we’re together we can always talk and laugh and be just as goofy and ourselves as we want and when there’s not that then there’s always kissing. 😉 He told me that he may wake up one day and realize he does finally wanna be in a relationship with me. He even told me that everyone in his house thought it was strange that he finally had a girl he liked and we weren’t dating yet. That’s why I’m not too worried about the idea of him being a player because it just seems totally far from what everyones built him up to be. (Which is a sweet guy who just can’t seem to find the right girl and hasn’t for 2 years. And he’s still a virgin) So for now I’m content with being close and hanging out, but I told him that I wouldn’t wait around and he told me he understood. I’ll let everyone know how tonight goes, as well as what combo I use and the effects. Wish me luck! ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/239 "2009-08-31T23:31:48Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ll let everyone know how tonight goes, as well as what combo I use and the effects. **Wish me luck!** Good luck! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/240 "2009-08-31T23:46:07Z")
**Reporting back on last night** **9:00pm** **SL:** 2 (neck, face) **IS:** 3 (neck, arm, face) **IS/b:** 1 (neck) **Effects:** When I put everything on my bff was very talkative and happy despite the trouble she’d been going through with her bf. Anywho our friend came over and man was she talkative. In fact she was pretty talkative for most of the night. I was pretty goofy myself and pointed out random dumb stuff that I’d usually keep to myself. We were all happy and all smiles. Got a lot of contact and when new TG and I were talking later that night we talked for a really long time. I kept thinking he’s stop talking and tell me he needed to sleep, but we just kept right on talking. I even started to forget things after about 5 mins. I was very scatter brained, and TG commented on how I went from one topic to the next to the next in a matter of less than 5 mins lol. It was suppose to be a serious talk, but we had a lot of laughs and a good time was had. Got talked to by a few guys I don’t normally have convos with. It was mostly playful chit-chat. Now lets just hope tonight goes well… if it even happens. I hope he remembers \<.\> ---
**Author:** ![Rosegirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rosegirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rosegirl)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/241 "2009-09-01T01:19:20Z")
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