# My Journal (With and Without the Pheromones)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [January 27, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396 "2009-01-27T00:08:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/282 "2009-09-17T04:18:00Z")

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**IS/A (1 of my 3 IS/A’s I’ve gotten. 2 were free gifts. Wondering if maybe Androtics doesn’t keep track of what people have on their wish lists? I almost never use IS/A unless I’m working, which I dont have a job, or want to seem more of a strong type. Sooo these will most likely go to my mom. Otherwise they’re just sitting here x.x)**

**2 sprays (neck, arms)**

**Effects:** Saw one of my guy friends and he walked me to my class and opened the door for me. He then made a comment that he not only felt like he had to open the door for me, but that he wanted to.  
Later in my class I noticed that one of my girl friends was more attentive when I was talking to her and I felt like she was treating me with more respect 🙂

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/283 "2009-09-18T17:06:00Z")

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Last night probably wasn’t the best night to wear B-nol, but I wanted to see how old TG would react to it since new TG didn’t seem to react well.

\*\*B-nol 2 (neck, arms) 100 mcg/spray  
[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 2 (neck, side of face) 12.5 mcg/spray

Effects:\*\*\* I had a light buzz from the 200 mcg of B-nol. I didn’t really feel any self effects until I told TG about how some guy “bitch slapped” me and I hit him in the throat and me and TG had this long discussion about how I shouldn’t fight someone even if they made me angry. He was trying to show me that he cared, but after I cried a bit I told him I felt like he just thought I was a weak little girl. And maybe that was true, but I couldn’t stand him treating me like I was weak and didn’t know how to handle myself. But after explaining that he only wanted me to be safe and really cared about me, and that if someone ever did seriously hurt me he’d have to kill everyone on campus, I felt a lil better and stopped crying. Then he extended his arms out to me, something he never does, and I sat down next to him and rested my head on his chest as he held me. It felt very nostalgic. And I wanted to cry several times because I didn’t want to be without him. I care so much about him.\*  
Why did I do all this?  
Well, I had convinced myself that I was going to ask new TG out today (Friday) and old TG caught word of it and asked if we could have one final time together. He said it would have to serve as closure… That really struck a cord in me… And I realized that I just couldn’t give up being with TG. Even if we weren’t actually together. Because I really cared about him.

So now I’m going to extend my singleness…again. I still can’t help but feel like I’m being split in two. It sucks.

_TG was actually really nice the entire night. One time he did get pissed when I almost broke his glass table. But after seeing how sorry I was he quickly calmed down and appologized. Usually it takes forever for him to calm down. Idk if it was the B-nol or the fact that this might be the last time we hung out with each other, but his niceness was something I rarely see. Usually he’s really sarcastic. Something I don’t mind, but after a while it gets annoying.  
The rest of the night was pretty good. He was genuinely concerned about how my leg had been hurting and started kissing it. WTF? It was nice, but still something he’s never done.  
Gotta say, I wish I had more times like this with him._

Tonights gonna be one of the biggest parties of the year and new TG is going to be there of course. I’m bringing my bff guy friend along too and I’m gonna try to get him to wear some sprays and introduce him to some ladies 🙂 We’ll see how I feel about new TG tonight. But right now I don’t think it’d be fair to go one of two ways because of the way I feel.  
Oh well…more to come soon.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/284 "2009-09-19T00:15:50Z")

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Here’s what I’m thinking I’m gonna wear tonight…

\*\*Me:

P83 2 sprays  
Spaceland 2 sprays  
P74 3 sprays  
[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 1 spray  
(Maybe Meo-EST) 2 sprays  
MX135 also looks promising 🙂 Haven’t tried that in a while.

More to come on what my guy bff’s gonna be wearing 🙂

Edit:

Ended up giving my guy friend 1 spray of SL and 1 of P75.

Me: P83, SL, P74, P75, COPS, and later IS/A

Results later 🙂  
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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/285 "2009-09-21T01:56:46Z")

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\*\*9:00 pm

Big Party

Cops 5 drops to neck  
P83 2 (neck, side of face)  
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 3 (2 neck, chest)  
P75 1 to neck  
SL 2 (neck, face)

12:25 am  
IS/A 2 (neck, arms)

Effects: \*\*Was very talkative, happy, goofy. Was drinking an energy drink, but I was energetic way before it kicked in. Met so many new people who were really nice and had my friend, his friend, and some other guy we just met, following me. Kept conversation fairly well and new TG happy the whole night. My guy bff was really talking to me when I added the refresher of IS/A. The only thing I didn’t like was that most of the night I was surrounded by only guys. Very rarely would I get talked to by a girl and girls I did know would only stick around for a bit. This is a good mix for attracting and keeping guys there, but not with girls. Also, I met this black guy that night who kept telling me how pretty my eyes were and has been calling me since the party and leaving voice mails and texts. Umm…o.O

My guy friend, with his P75 and SL (Each 1 spray to neck), was holding conversations with people for a long time and was very engaged in the conversations. I wish I’d seen more girls so I could have seen how the pheros effected them. A few guys got really close to my friend and his friend and when he looked up the guys just randomly said hi. Maybe a hit? haha

Can’t wait till the next big party! :3 Halloween!

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**Author:** ![madison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/madison/32/546_2.png) [@madison](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/madison)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/286 "2009-09-21T20:18:27Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
>
> **Ahhh!**
> 
> So ever since I started my break on Sunday I’ve been having dreams about pheromones and the to-go bottles. Wow I’m really obsessed! x.x  
> I really wanna test!
> 
> Good thing my order isn’t coming in till Thursday and I probably won’t be able to use it till Friday.

HA 🙂 That’s funny 🙂

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**Author:** ![madison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/madison/32/546_2.png) [@madison](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/madison)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/287 "2009-09-21T20:21:28Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
>
> **Ahhh!**
> 
> So ever since I started my break on Sunday I’ve been having dreams about pheromones and the to-go bottles. Wow I’m really obsessed! x.x  
> I really wanna test!
> 
> Good thing my order isn’t coming in till Thursday and I probably won’t be able to use it till Friday.

> [@happykitsune](#):
>
> Feeling kinda blah and slightly sad-ish. It’s times like these when I wish I could wear IShine or Spaceland \>☹
> 
> Been noticing that I haven’t been “invisible” lately. It used to be that when I didn’t wear pheros I was literally invisible to people. I have a very weak personality, and it takes a bit for me to get comfortable in certain situations which equates to little to no talking. Especially in big groups. I’ve found that lately, since I’ve been giving off the “I can live alone. I don’t really care” vibe that people have been talking more to me and actually gone out of their way to talk to me. Guys from the fraternity my new TG is in are all being nice to me as well, which can probably be attributed to him and me dating, but I’ve found they’re a little more friendly than usual.
> 
> I think if I really wanted I could live without pheromones, but honestly I just don’t want to. Notice how even though I’m not using them I still post in my journal.
> 
> Well…I guess this journal does say (with and without pheromones) so I guess I gave myself a right to 😛
> 
> I must say tho. I really miss my MEO-EST 😕
> 
> Sad to say I’ve been wearing Clary Sage (the scent of Spaceland) along with other perfumes to help me out with this break. I never thought I’d take it so harshly. x.x

Aww.. One day at a time! 😛 🙂

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**Author:** ![madison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/madison/32/546_2.png) [@madison](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/madison)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/288 "2009-09-21T20:25:09Z")

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Been noticing that I haven’t been “invisible” lately. It used to be that when I didn’t wear pheros I was literally invisible to people. I have a very weak personality, and it takes a bit for me to get comfortable in certain situations which equates to little to no talking. Especially in big groups. I’ve found that lately, since I’ve been giving off the “I can live alone. I don’t really care” vibe that people have been talking more to me and actually gone out of their way to talk to me. Guys from the fraternity my new TG is in are all being nice to me as well, which can probably be attributed to him and me dating, but I’ve found they’re a little more friendly than usual.

That’s good 🙂 I’ve had similar experience since i’ve started using the mones and then not using them. Thankfully 🙂

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**Author:** ![madison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/madison/32/546_2.png) [@madison](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/madison)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/289 "2009-09-21T20:36:02Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
>
> **P75 2.5 mcg 1 spray to neck (About 2 hours after the application of B-nol)**
> 
> **Self-effects:** There was a sense of not really caring. I was talking to TG about how he also asked about something and if I didn’t give him an answer he never develed deeper into the matter. It bothered me a little at first because it seemed like he didn’t care. But when he told me it didn’t necessarilly mean that I was able to brush it all off with a smile and change the subject. Felt a little arrogant and later at the party I literally kept gawking at every guy I saw. There were a lot of good looking guys there and most every single one I literally “eye-fucked”. You know that look…like I want you…I like what I see.  
> I kept catching myself doing that. Man, I was bad. I was like a horny teenage boy. Or Megan Fox or something XD  
> Anywho I ended up sitting by a guy and introducing myself and the guy by him kept looking at me and joined in the conversation a little. Another guy, my friend, also joined in a little. I was able to be very social and confident with this putative. Maybe even a bit arrogant, but not too much. I’ve felt this feeling before with pheros, but it’s a hard one to keep. I liked it though. Was playful in sort of a sexual way. My smile was happy, but also sexy. Kinda like I got what I wanted.
> 
> **Effects to Others:** Got a lot of people talking to me and looking at me. People I don’t normally talk to were talking to me. Later when I went to some of my old sorority sisters house they were both being nice to me despite me quiting and one of them kept offering to go to the library with me or offer my notes.  
> TG seemed actually kinda horny. Grabbed my butt. I actually grabbed his back (don’t judge). Then he wanted me to sit on his lap, which I did, but I kept trying to get up to run around with my bff. He was also putting his arm around me a lot. Idk why I really note this, because he does this at every party we go to, even without mones. But this time I think it was more significant because I felt a lil more independent of him and kinda like a horny teenager just looking for pray.
> 
> **sprayed 1 more spray to neck (About 2-3 hrs later)**
> 
> **Effects:** Felt slightly more confident…nothing too drastic. My guy friend kept talking to me and poked me. Went back to the apt and me and TG sat around, pretty much doing our own thing for about 30 mins. It was kinda weird since we usually don’t do other stuff while we’re together. He seemed a little offended when I was more interested in my computer then his pictures on fb. Eh…
> 
> All in all an interesting putative. Could be very sexual and animalistic if paired with maybe some cops or some P80. P83 might be interesting to try with it.  
> Not sure really what all the guys were thinking as I passed them or what they thought of me blatantly staring at them, but I didn’t see any objections.  
> Definitely a teenager who wants to go after “the kill” 😜

Wow! That’s super interesting! I really want to try that one now! 🙄 When will it end?! ha 🙂

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/290 "2009-09-25T22:19:10Z")

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So I’ve noticed the lack of attention I’ve been putting into my journal lately and how far behind I am in entries. Ugh.

12:00 am

P79 2 (arms, chest) 12.5 mcg  
P80 1 to neck 12.5  
[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 1 to neck 2.5

**Effects** : Had more effects on my then it had on old TG. I really wanted him…like super bad. And I couldn’t help but keep kissing him and touching him. He wasn’t very receptive tho. Didn’t want to kiss in the living room even tho his roomy was asleep.  
Needless to say I was very aggressive that night. TG didn’t really like it tho so I had to stop. Wonder what phero made me aggressive 😕

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/291 "2009-09-25T22:30:19Z")

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12:00 am

Got called by my lab partner and he told me he was on his way to my place. So I quickly got make up on and met him and another of my guy friends at the door. They wanted us to go out to the quad to party. So me and my bff headed out with them and people were all really cool and having an awesome time and I was really enjoying myself. I had to go home tho because I had a class at 9:30 am and decided to head back with my lab partner who had the same class with me. We ended up play fighting and talking about how he shouldn’t be with his girlfriend if he’s going to complain about her.  
By that time the pheros, one in particular, was messing up my better judgement and I put the key in the door to go inside right after hastily saying I was thinking “naughty” thoughts. And he ended up following me into my apt and sitting on my chair. And then preceded to convince me that he was taking a break with his gf and pulled me on his lap to give me a kiss.  
At this point I felt bad, but he wasn’t gonna take no for an answer. Hah.

Idk how many times he asked for sex that night. He even offered to go to the store to get condoms. But I was still like…nope!

There had been a lot of sexual tension between us since then, but now that I’ve kissed him I feel content to probably never venture that direction again. He needs to officially break up with his gf and I don’t need five other guys, besides the two I’m deciding on, to distract me. No! I will not be “That Guy”.

IS/a 2 (neck, arms)  
[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 1 to neck  
P83 1 to neck

I almost always add P83 now to get people to act on the other pheros I wear with it. This time was no exception.  
The P75 really makes me want people. It just turns me into a horny dog I guess. That’s such a bad term, but it’s the only way I can describe it.  
Idk why, but I’ve been using IS/a lately, even outside my reports. It seems to compliment my goofy mixes well and gives me more of an aggressiveness to me.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/292 "2009-09-25T22:34:27Z")

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> [@madison](#):
>
> Wow! That’s super interesting! I really want to try that one now! 🙄 When will it end?! ha 🙂

Oh Trust me. It’ll probably never end. I told myself I wasn’t gonna buy anymore putative, but then I just had to go and break my promise to myself. Oh well. It was money well spent. Still curious of what -rone will do for me.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/293 "2009-10-08T00:26:52Z")

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My most recent experimenting 🙂

\*\*6:40 PM

EST 2 to neck  
TAL 3 (2 to neck, wrists)  
MX274 2 to neck

Effects:  
\*\*Got a really strange self-effect with this one I think I’ve only gotten one other time, though I wasn’t using this combo when I got it, and it wasn’t this strong of effect.  
I kept feel really embarrassed, like a school girl, to do stuff as trivial as kissing TG. Funny thing is it sorta felt like that first date when you’re nervous and you wouldn’t just go in for a kiss. And then I kept giggling a lot. I wonder if it was the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in the MX274 because it felt like I was on my first date and I was an innocent girl who couldn’t stop giggling and smiling. I’m surprised TG never made a comment about it.  
As far as effects to him he was handsy as he usually is, not really till later when I insisted on a kiss. So Idk if the pheros really worked on him too well.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/294 "2009-10-08T15:55:30Z")

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I forgot to mention that after my last experiment I went to bed and had the most vivid dreams. I’ve only got this one other time with Meo-EST so this was a shock to me. It happened when I woke up for a few minutes then went back to sleep.

Hmm…I wonder if the TAL had something to do with it because MX274 and EST have never done this…

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/295 "2009-10-27T20:28:20Z")

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Wow, it’s been a while. I have been testing as always, and have noted that P79 is a molecule that is worth testing.  
It’s very sneaky, but it’s definitely doing something.  
I’ve been using only 12.5 mcg (1 spray) usually to my neck, and it’s been taking the last minute hesitation away. Now I just do things without consulting my brain first, almost like everything is ok to do.

One example of this was when I moved my friends beer can that was in his lap and got very close to his “good” lmao. At the time it didn’t seem that big of a deal, but he was like “whoa” and laughed it off, not expecting that from me at all.

I’ve been testing it with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), and Spaceland because those are both molecules that really get people to open up and do whatever they feel like doing. P79 just pushes them over the edge even further.

I will being doing more trials, especially this weekend since it’s Halloween.

More to come!

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/296 "2009-11-18T07:38:26Z")

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It’s been so long. Been using pheros on and off lately. Used…

2 sprays of 12.5 mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)  
1 spray of 2.5 mcg P75

Effects:  
My friends was pretty talkative to me. My guy kept leaving for some reason tho to talk to other people. Mostly guys. Got talked to by some people i don’t always talk to, but also got a few shoves for me to get outta the way.  
I wonder if the P83 caused people to lower their inhibitions and just push me around… or if the P75 was making people annoyed with me.  
Overall not a bad night. Nothing too blatant to report on, but I will be testing more this week I hope.

Just been busy making those good grades this yr since last yr was a bad one for me, grade-wise. Will get better with this reporting again… I hope. Trust me, there are so many other hobbies I am not taking part in lately because I wanna do better this year. x.x Sucks.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/297 "2009-12-15T01:07:07Z")

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Just placed an order with my GC and a few of my points and got MX340 and P85. I’m so excited to try these two out 🙂  
I haven’t been going out much lately and I’m not currently dating anyone so I don’t really have chances to test pheros on people.  
But [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) seems to work well on my family so I’ll probably try this during the holidays. Especially when I go to my grandparents where all my family members will be. Ugh.

Idk why I’m not on much anymore, but I have been using my pheros. Just wish I had more chances to use them.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/298 "2009-12-19T06:22:04Z")

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**[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)=Rat Magnet!**

**Haha, okay a lot of you may not like rats, some may not care, and some may love them. Myself, I love rats. They’re my mini dogs. But anyways, on to the report.**

Today I wore P83 2.5 mcg

**5 sprays (3 to neck, one to wrists, one to hair)**

**Effects on me:** I think I was a little more outspoken, but only to my sister. Only 5 sprays of 2.5 mcg doesn’t do much tho.

**Effects to others:** Some old guy at wal-mart tried to carry on a conversation with me.. he kept saying stuff even though I wasn’t engaged in the conversation with him.

Then later my rats were acting strangely when I took them out. They were all licking me and wanting to be super close to me, and strangely cuddly.  
I know I’ve mentioned I was going to wear pheros around rats, but this is the only instance where they’ve acted different than normal. Spock even wagged his tail as I stroked him, and kept getting closer to me. And Sylar wanted to be on my shoulder the entire time when he’s usually running around like a mad man XD

**My conclusion: At low doses P83 probably only effects old people, or at least old men because my sister wasn’t acting any different.**  
**P83 also affects rats. I’ve yet to see it’s affects on any other animals, but my dog seems like his normal self, so I guess that rules out dogs for now.**

**Can’t wait to try P83 out during the holidays! It worked great on my family vacation (when my family usually fights -\_-). So I’m hoping to get a fun time this year during the whole families annual christmas parties. It’s one of those parties where you go for the grandparent and the kids haha… this should be interesting.**

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/299 "2009-12-19T08:11:15Z")

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Happiness is always a by-product. It is probably a matter of temperament, and for anything I know it may be glandular. But it is not something that can be demanded from life, and if you are not happy you had better stop worrying about it and see what treasures you can pluck from your own brand of unhappiness. ~Robertson Davies

Found this a sec ago on fb. Thought I’d post it so I could remember the quote. I think someone on here will appreciate it 🙂

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/300 "2009-12-21T05:52:11Z")

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\*\*P85 _CHOCOLATINI! 12.5mcg_

**2 sprays to neck**

**Effects:** Got a little intense.. I was acting more hateful and aggressive than usual. I wanted to be the one talking in the conversation and I was annoyed with my sister talking. I was talking a lot tho.

**Effects to others:** People were all talkative at my aunts house and the conversation was very upbeat and everyone was laughing and having a good time. I don’t think there was one bad moment.  
No effects to rats that I noticed with this phero.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/301 "2009-12-21T05:58:47Z")

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\*\*[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) _COCONUT/VANILLA 2.5 mcg_

**8 sprays to neck, chest, arms, hair**

**Effects:** I was in a good mood the whole day and everyone else was in a good mood and surprisingly energetic throughout the day despite the fact that we were hauling around a lot of little kids x.x Only one cried, and that’s because he’s a cry baby lol. But he quickly got over it. The kids loved me tho. They’re my cousins, but I almost never see them.  
I did end up crashing during a christmas play tho. The play was kinda boring, but I was surprised I was able to sleep through the music.

**Effects to rats:** I had put on 5 sprays before I added the last 3 and with the 5 sprays I went into the restroom where my rats were and they started licking me again like they did before, and the little one still licked my face.  
Then when I came back later with 8 sprays they were all up on my shoulder licking my face, neck, and hands. And they would not leave. I had to leave them or they’d lick my hands away \>.\< Maybe I’ll make a video when I get my new video cam for christmas, displaying the difference between playing with rats with and without P83.

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