# My Journal (With and Without the Pheromones) **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [January 27, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396 "2009-01-27T00:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/502 "2010-12-01T16:28:27Z")
Now you’ve done it. I haven’t seen Olfact this excited since. Well crap I haven’t seen Olfact this excited lol ---
**Author:** ![spike316](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spike316/32/1088_2.png) [@spike316](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spike316)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/503 "2010-12-01T16:53:30Z")
how did you guys learn so much about this stuff? O\_o OA you should start an astrological consultation topic or something. i have a client who’s really good at this kind of thing so i’ll ask her questions about this stuff when i’m working on her since she’s a talker, but i still prefer to allow the client to talk about themselves when i’m working on them so there’s not really much opportunity. ☹ are there any books you’d recommend? ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/504 "2010-12-01T19:55:34Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > What are you? Dragon or Tiger? Earth Snake. Same as him…chinese zodiac isn’t very specific. I don’t like it \>☹ ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/505 "2010-12-01T19:58:04Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Well I’m glad I got you all fired up. With the whole Prince William and Kate marriage fiasco going on they actually did a segment on them astrology wise but there a really great match and the fact their both Dogs will make the relationship quite comfortable in the long run. > > I figured you were a snake considering your 2 years younger than me. Earth snakes are a good middle ground between the other elemented snakes. To be a girl in the year of a snake especially when earth snakes are hard working is a blessing. I have tough time ignoring the charms of girls of 1989 🆒 I only know this because I’ve had many ins and outs with girls born in that year so I snoop around and learn a little more. Wow :0 Good to know. Just wish they had an extended sub category becasuse at this point we are both earth snakes. to suggest a match between two different animals would say that I couldn’t date anyone inside my age/year. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/506 "2010-12-01T20:01:38Z")
> [@spike316](#): > > how did you guys learn so much about this stuff? O\_o OA you should start an astrological consultation topic or something. i have a client who’s really good at this kind of thing so i’ll ask her questions about this stuff when i’m working on her since she’s a talker, but i still prefer to allow the client to talk about themselves when i’m working on them so there’s not really much opportunity. ☹ are there any books you’d recommend? If I may…the internet is just as good a source for astrology as a book…though books can become incredibly indept. I usually use Sexual Astrology. A quick search on google will bring you to the sight. Helps me figure out whos a good match, how to seduce certain signs and whatnot. Should be helpful if you are curious 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/507 "2010-12-01T21:01:19Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Wow :0 Good to know. Just wish they had an extended sub category becasuse at this point we are both earth snakes. to suggest a match between two different animals would say that I couldn’t date anyone inside my age/year. I understand your need to have things more specific and I’ll admit that its true that descriptions of each are very basic at best. It is highly plausible for people born in the same year to be highly compatible and fit well together long term. The chinese zodiac only sets the simple ground work for a persons personality and aspirations. I still believe a good deal of your personality comes from your parents, a good deal from your life experiences, and also your natal chart. It really is impossible to fathom what person would work with you perfectly through horoscope much less than to actually find that particular person. The caveat is for 2 of the same sign to get along over a long period things need to be worked out more extensively than 2 somewhat opposing signs that may have what is needed to balance out the other. It seems ludicrous but in a general astrology sense extremes whether in similarity or disimilarity need MORE grunt work to be laid down in order to foster harmony in the relationship. Things like Capricorn/Capricorn and Aries/Aries for example really dont work. The other energies of both people may have been how they were drawn together in the first place but it seldom lasts. IMO I dont find Snake/Snake to be a good relationship cause I believe both parties will be playing mind games on the other for a good long time and depending on the intensity one of the party’s ego will decay until they forget why they liked that said person in the first place. But as I said its simply my conjecture astro wise and nothing is absolute and you could prove me wrong. The fact is it wont be easy and you have to at least accept the responsibility of that aspect if you decide to have closer relationship with that person. Thats why I find stereotyping a person we may be falling for or wanting to get to know better not the right course of action. If I really like a girl I rather get to know her through her mannerisms, passions, her general countenance, and even her quirks/ habits than to pick her apart with preconceived notions from astrology. Astrology is best used after the fact in order to shed more light on what we’ve seen from observations of that said person with us and around other people. Knowing yourself and knowing what energies go with the flow and what energies cut against the grain with you as well as being able to pick up the subtleties of people through observation and interaction will do you so much more justice than horoscopes ever will. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/508 "2010-12-02T02:56:41Z")
Alrighty then. So I have a new TG and will be seeing him tonight. I’d like him to be a bit closer because I found it took a while for him to warm up to even touching me Soooo EST it is. I only had 2 sprays last time so I am going to up the dose to 4 and see what happens o.o Hmm maybe add some P79 too so that there is no second thoughts. I am going to get rid of that hesitant-ness if it’s the last thing I do \>.\< ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/509 "2010-12-02T03:03:53Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Alrighty then. So I have a new TG and will be seeing him tonight. > > I’d like him to be a bit closer because I found it took a while for him to warm up to even touching me > > Soooo EST it is. I only had 2 sprays last time so I am going to up the dose to 4 and see what happens o.o Hmm maybe add some P79 too so that there is no second thoughts. I am going to get rid of that hesitant-ness if it’s the last thing I do \>.\< Toss in [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) too ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/510 "2010-12-02T03:32:38Z")
You know I was thinking about it and since Scorpios are so secretive I’m going to toss in P86 and B-nol. May toss in [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) as well, but thats a lot of perfume XD ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/511 "2010-12-02T04:26:26Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > You know I was thinking about it and since Scorpios are so secretive I’m going to toss in P86 and B-nol. > > May toss in P83 as well, but thats a lot of perfume XD You may be able to get away without the P86 but you know yourself better ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/512 "2010-12-02T04:35:02Z")
HK scares me I hope I never run into a mone wielding woman thats more my type or knows how to manipulate me 😮 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/513 "2010-12-03T04:14:01Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > HK scares me I hope I never run into a mone wielding woman thats more my type or knows how to manipulate me 😮 Psh, I don’t manipulate. I just see what I want and I find any means to make it mine. Which btw the night went well. I think I sprayed on too much EST though because the touching was there, but I kinda wish there had be a little aggression. Not sure what to use for that. Posted up a status earlier on my facebook saying I was having “inner conflictions”. My own personal way at getting TG to respond, which he never does so I was at least hoping for him to see it and think about it. He ended up commenting on it tho with a “?” and I elaborated for him via text my thoughts about what was going on in my head…that I didn’t wanna screw up this thing with him because I really liked him. He said not to worry about it so much and I said I guess then told him I really had fun, but haven’t gotten a response yet. It’s probably been about an hour or so now and, as usual, I am feeling anxious…because now I feel like I did something wrong. Great…the last thing I wanted to do with screw this up. Was it wrong of me to put up that status or let him know how I felt about him? ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/514 "2010-12-03T04:18:22Z")
Ugh lol. nvm he texted me. Gah I am such a worrier x.x ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/515 "2010-12-03T04:47:58Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Psh, I don’t manipulate. I just see what I want and I find any means to make it mine. > > Which btw the night went well. I think I sprayed on too much EST though because the touching was there, but I kinda wish there had be a little aggression. Not sure what to use for that. > > Posted up a status earlier on my facebook saying I was having “inner conflictions”. My own personal way at getting TG to respond, which he never does so I was at least hoping for him to see it and think about it. He ended up commenting on it tho with a “?” and I elaborated for him via text my thoughts about what was going on in my head…that I didn’t wanna screw up this thing with him because I really liked him. He said not to worry about it so much and I said I guess then told him I really had fun, but haven’t gotten a response yet. It’s probably been about an hour or so now and, as usual, I am feeling anxious…because now I feel like I did something wrong. Great…the last thing I wanted to do with screw this up. Was it wrong of me to put up that status or let him know how I felt about him? Wow, chill out a little. You do realize that is manipulation you just implied. As you are suiting your purpose and skillfully influencing someone. You know what I’ve had enough of this anyway. Have fun 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/516 "2010-12-03T05:19:06Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Wow, chill out a little. You do realize that is manipulation you just implied. As you are suiting your purpose and skillfully influencing someone. _sigh_ Sarcasm doesn’t work well over posts ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/517 "2010-12-03T06:43:14Z")
**P78 2 sprays to neck 12.5 mcg** **Art class** **Effects:** I kept getting annoyed with all the girls and even my guy friend who is kinda girly. And I got super jealous because I there is a guy I think is cute in that class and I know a few of the girls in there like him (It is quite obvious) and I even became jealous of my guy friend because he was talking and hanging out with him a lot. WTF? O.0 Anyway…after an hour I think either the affects started to wear off or maybe mellow and turn into something else because I was able to be happy and I wasn’t annoyed at all. Like I was super happy when I responded to people o.o So strange. So I’m not sure if this phero makes people jealous if you spray on too much of if it intensifies emotions like jealousy and happiness. One thing I did notice tho was that when I was jealous I tried to be nice and happy, but it always came out as sounding mean or annoyed and I felt annoyed…I just couldn’t help it 😕 * * * **EST 100 mcg 4 sprays (neck, wrists, chest)** **B-nol 100 mcg 1 spray to neck** **(Forgot to spray P86 or P83)** **TG’s apt** **Effects:** I think the B-nol helped me stay confident and witty. I’ve been in a secluded mood lately. I think it’s just something that happens occassionally, but I’m not too confident or stable when I’m in my dark/secluded mood 😕 Anywho, It took a while for TG to warm up to me. He started out on the completely other couch then ended up on the same couch with me and eventually he started to brush his finger tips against my skin again and kept trying to tickle me. I kept feeling this bonding feeling…like when we’d joke with each other and laugh. I think it was the B-nol. Made me feel very connected with him tho and I got a lot of eye contact from him. Not that it’s ever been an issue. He’s always giving me those piercing eyes ever since I talked to him on Halloween…like he’s watching me. We finally ended up kissing that night, which I’m happy about. I think I’m the more forceful one so I’ll have to incorporate some phero that’ll make him more aggressive next time. All in all a good night. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/518 "2010-12-03T13:38:32Z")
Is this old TG or new TG? ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/519 "2010-12-03T23:21:47Z")
New TG. Sorry I guess I should have said Scorpio guy. From now on I’ll refer to him as TG (S) …and TG (D) is no long my TG. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/520 "2010-12-03T23:23:18Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > New TG. Sorry I guess I should have said Scorpio guy. > From now on I’ll refer to him as TG (S) > > …and TG (D) is no long my TG. Waht does ‘D’ stand for? ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/521 "2010-12-04T01:44:02Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > Waht does ‘D’ stand for? That’s the symbol for the college he goes to. For new TG I used S, taken from Scorpio [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396.md?page=25) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396.md?page=27)