# My Journal (With and Without the Pheromones)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [January 27, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396 "2009-01-27T00:08:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/542 "2010-12-14T20:11:25Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
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> Haha thats what my friends tell me. Pretty sure they just want someone to drink with lol.
> 
> So I took a look at my birth chart recently and found out I have a lot of signs in scorpio and capricorn.
> 
> I think I took it a little too far with the scorpioness today and literally tore a girl to shreads even though she was “just kidding”.  
> She challenged me and I won. Simple truth 🙂

I should elaborate on living it up.

It doesn’t mean getting hammered every night and neglecting school.

It just means that if you have some free time, but not neccesarily be in the mood to do anything, just to go out and see how things would turn out with people you like to hang out with. Some of the best times I had were the most random events.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/543 "2010-12-14T22:21:05Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> I should elaborate on living it up.
> 
> It doesn’t mean getting hammered every night and neglecting school.
> 
> It just means that if you have some free time, but not neccesarily be in the mood to do anything, just to go out and see how things would turn out with people you like to hang out with. Some of the best times I had were the most random events.

Agreed 🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/544 "2010-12-14T22:23:07Z")

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Apparently I have Scorpio Rising in my first house. You a water sign and me an Earth sign! We would never get along…together we would make mud 🙂

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/545 "2010-12-14T22:23:07Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> So who’s going to read my chart?

Idk if I can read a chart, but if you enter your b-day info into this site here..

[Birth Chart Calculator - An Interactive Birth Chart Wheel](http://www.alwaysastrology.com/birth-chart-calculator.html)

you should be able to get a chart that when you hover on the different symbols it will tell you what each other is and what it means. I understood it pretty well and I’m not too smart when it comes to figuring out astrology charts x.x

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/546 "2010-12-16T01:57:01Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Apparently I have Scorpio Rising in my first house. You a water sign and me an Earth sign! We would never get along…together we would make mud 🙂

Water sign? You talking about my moon in scorpio? cus sagittarius is a fire sign o.O

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/547 "2010-12-16T20:47:20Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
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> Water sign? You talking about my moon in scorpio? cus sagittarius is a fire sign o.O

No I was just being silly, quoting Rodney Dangerfield 😉

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/548 "2010-12-16T21:00:04Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> No I was just being silly, quoting Rodney Dangerfield 😉

Oh…figures o.o

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/549 "2010-12-18T04:39:36Z")

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Combo for last night…

**EST 100 mcg 3 sprays to neck**  
**[P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 2.5 mcg 1 spray to neck**  
**IS/B 2 sprays to neck and hair**

**Place:** Friends place (party), bff’s apt

**Effects:**

Wasn’t really aware of any effects at first. Strangely most of the effects came later. Bff’s bf grabbed my knee and squeezed it while teasing me. He was the sober one in the group o.o I was drunk, but even tho I was it still felt weird to have him touch me like that. I think he did it twice and helped me outta the car by holding out a hand to me and pulling me out and then was teasing me. So weird o.o  
TG ended up coming back to bff’s place with us even tho his place is very close to where the party was and we even stopped by there to get his charger. So he ended up sleeping on the couch with me. He usually sleeps the opposite direction that I do, but I pulled him to my end and we cuddled and talked for some of the night. He also said I smelled good. I had a lot of perfume on so I guess that’s a good sign lol

This has nothing to do with effects, but him and I had talked about whether we should date a few days earlier, but had told me he didn’t want to rush into it because he worked a lot and didn’t know if it’d work. I was very confused so I was glad to talk to him about it again and this time in person. He also mentioned that since we have the same circle of friends he wanted to take it slow because if we were to break out things could turn awkward and he said he’d gotten into relationships before too fast and all of them didn’t work out well. I said ok and accepted it. I don’t want to be played so I’m going to play it cool and just treat him as a friend that I like for now and cut out kissing. I talked to my bff and she told me he has been hurt before so I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt…hopefully my trusting was won’t be my downfall -.-

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/550 "2010-12-18T19:35:51Z")

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Why is B-nol out of stock!? I wanted to get some of that for x-mas x.x

-runs off to see what else is out/in stock-

And Meo-EST is out of stock too? And P86 too?! Or spaceland? 135?? x.x  
Sigh I guess I’ll have to get some more [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), P74, or P85 then

But what the heck? Why all the good ones?

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/551 "2010-12-18T20:42:49Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
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> Why is B-nol out of stock!? I wanted to get some of that for x-mas x.x
> 
> -runs off to see what else is out/in stock-
> 
> And Meo-EST is out of stock too? And P86 too?! Or spaceland? 135?? x.x  
> Sigh I guess I’ll have to get some more P83, P74, or P85 then
> 
> But what the heck? Why all the good ones?

I’ve been waiting for B-nol, A-nol, and TAC to be in stock for over a month now ☹

Before you decide to get Meo-EST, go read about it. It is supposedly found in breast carcinomas 😮

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/552 "2010-12-18T21:17:50Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> I’ve been waiting for B-nol, A-nol, and TAC to be in stock for over a month now ☹
> 
> Before you decide to get Meo-EST, go read about it. It is supposedly found in breast carcinomas 😮

I have Meo-EST already and it’s probably the best product I’ve used from androtics. What is breat carcinomas?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/553 "2010-12-19T03:27:15Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
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> I have Meo-EST already and it’s probably the best product I’ve used from androtics. What is breat carcinomas?

Some studies have found that there were traces of that in tumors found in breast cancers. People have just advised to use caution when using it. From the posts I’ve read its a form (or is) equilin. I’d just do a bit more research on it just to be sure.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/554 "2010-12-19T03:38:18Z")

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Well now you guys are scarin’ me \>.\<

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/555 "2010-12-19T04:50:36Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
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> Well now you guys are scarin’ me \>.\<

If you really look at it, anything you do today can give you cancer. Anything in moderation, you’ll be ok.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/556 "2010-12-19T05:16:04Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> If you really look at it, anything you do today can give you cancer. Anything in moderation, you’ll be ok.

Lol well with Meo-EST I have to use it in moderation because I have very little left and it loses its potency if I use it too soon after the first use.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/557 "2010-12-20T23:25:21Z")

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**EST 100mcg 4 sprays (2 to front of neck, 1 back of neck, 1 wrists)**  
**IS/B 2 sprays (neck, hair)**

**Place:** bff’s apt

**Effects:**  
One of our friends was coming home from the military so I headed to my friends place. He was going to be staying on the couch so I asked TG if I could crash at his place. I was less agressive that night. IS/b makes me more docile/girly. When TG was talking he’d usually look at me, which was a good sign, and then sometimes I’d catch him just staring at me. What I’ve come to know as the “scorpio eyes”.  
He kept messing with my hair, trying to mess it up. He’s touched my hair like that before, but he was really drunk the last time he did that. This time he was pretty much sober and he kept touching me hair throughout the whole night. And then tried to do some wrestling moves on me x.x I guess cus I was trying some martial arts on him…nothing I don’t usually do tho. Also, when I rolled away from him one of the times he started rubbing my back, which is something I definitely value in a guy 🙂  
At one point I caught his face in my hair and the back of my neck…I think he likes the smell of neroli and the EST prob contributed to the closeness.  
We had a good time just sitting on the couch together and watching tv, joking and pushing one another around playfully. He told me later that he enjoyed just spending time with me on the couch. 🙂

I’ll come back to this post if I remember anything…didn’t get much sleep so my heads a bit fuzzy. But overall a good combo and a good night.

I think next time I’ll add [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) next time to lower his inhibitions further and really get the EST to work it’s magic. I’ve found with other guys like my bff’s bf it only takes 3 sprays, but with TG I need at least 4 to get effects because he’s a very guarded person.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/558 "2010-12-22T00:14:09Z")

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So you were rolling around on the floor. At least I hope you had your clothes on. Sheesh this is like reading porn 🙂

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/559 "2010-12-23T08:32:18Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> So you were rolling around on the floor. At least I hope you had your clothes on. Sheesh this is like reading porn 🙂

I’ve rolled around with guys before in a brazillian jujitsu class. It’s only awkward if you make it awkward. Yes I had clothes on. Sheesh 😛

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/560 "2010-12-27T23:13:27Z")

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Hmmm. are you suggesting this has become awkward? You know I’m kidding with you, right?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-journal-with-and-without-the-pheromones/25396/561 "2010-12-28T08:03:35Z")

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Now I feel awkward (bbm confused face)

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