# my my my...mx135 & est **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 20, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282 "2008-02-20T05:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sheba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sheba/32/1664_2.png) [@sheba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheba)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/21 "2008-02-21T04:00:11Z")
Oh, and yeah… no matter what, get yourself some EST because… well, it’s awesome. LOL ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/22 "2008-02-21T05:25:04Z")
> [@phernoob](#): > > wow! you ladies are great sales people! i just bought some mx135, but i guess i need some est to light HIS fire. > > I lost 50lbs, - im a size 4, (was a 14) grew my hair long, new clothes, new makeup, tanned, toned… what does my man do??? READ A BOOK!!! > > so i bought shine, sexiness, openness, honesty, mx110 etc. what happens? my man is still HO HUM, but i am getting positive responses from every OTHER man on the planet besides him? WTF??? > > i thought this stuff would knock him over. instead i am having fun flirting with others… > > is it time to bring out the big guns and buy EST? Should i have fun with the young cute HOT coffee guy? BOTH? > is my man just a dud? No he isn’t a dud, unless you say so. 😉 It is just harder to get a reaction from an LTR in the beginning. He knows subconsciously what your pheromone signature is, if and when you’re ovulating. It will just take a little longer to test with him and figure out what he is reacting best to. Start out by using [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) for a while and then switch to mx135. Which one is he more reactive to? If you have a copulin product vary the amount you’re using each time. How much does it take to see a reaction? Then you can wear and create combos for the best reaction from him. Posts about tailoring from Dolly that might help you understand: > [@Tailoring -mone usage to your subject](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tailoring-mone-usage-to-your-subject/722): > > Well, as many of you know from a previous post, I am back out on the dating scene (in a big way) and I am having so much fun with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)!!!smiley This is a cute story (a little on the lengthy side) that I haven’t had time to sit down and write until now. I wasn’t going to bother with “yet another hit report”, but after I told the tale to my mother, she got so tickled by it that she insisted that I post it. Mainly because it was not a date that got “heated”…it was a “friend” who turned int… > [@More "Tailoring"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-tailoring/879): > > Ok, after my last experiments, I have decided to do more tests on the effects of tailoring my pheromone usage to my intended “victim’s” personality. These experiments were based mostly on TAH and TAL… First, I tried to think about the men I have been dating, and I picked two out of my black book, each who are very different, and like very different things in a woman. On both, I used a base of Essence of Woman on each side of the neck and in the cleavage (never leave home without it smiley ), … ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/23 "2008-03-17T21:20:32Z")
Another est fest 😃 6 drops eow 20 mcg tah 20 mcg beta nol 100 mcg est 10 mcg taf \*mcg are amounts worn in total Hubs was all over this within 20 minutes. I’d also like to know what it is about est that makes the chubby breast obsessed? Never fails. Ever. Is anyone diluting est? Has it been effective at 10-20 mcg? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/24 "2008-12-01T03:30:08Z")
**Bump** **Bump** So, what happened to EST? And will it ever be in stock again? ☹ Diane ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/25 "2008-12-01T14:26:34Z")
Hi Diane, I posted to your thread in the store section. They had to take EST off the shelfs for now because they cant use it in a mix. It has a patent on it by Erox which wont be up for a while. It cant be used in a mix and that is what they do and it is very expensive for them to carry here raw. So until the patent is up they wont restock it. You can get it in the chem set section over at Love scent or use [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) which is the closest you can get without it actually being EST. I know I am disappointed to, but just think of all the really fab mixes they will come out with when that patent is up. Yippeee LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/26 "2008-12-01T18:51:14Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hi Diane, > > I posted to your thread in the store section. They had to take EST off the shelfs for now because they cant use it in a mix. It has a patent on it by Erox which wont be up for a while. It cant be used in a mix and that is what they do and it is very expensive for them to carry here raw. So until the patent is up they wont restock it. > > You can get it in the chem set section over at Love scent or use P74 which is the closest you can get without it actually being EST. > > I know I am disappointed to, but just think of all the really fab mixes they will come out with when that patent is up. Yippeee LOL > > Tisha Thanks, Tisha. So now I get it… Androtics wants to only offer things for testing that it can use in potential products (slaps forhead!). I responded to your post in the store… but it’s still moderated for me so it won’t come up in a while. Thanks for the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) tip, but the mixes I have in mind won’t work with P74 unfortunately. So, any idea when the patent will come down? Seems like we could continue testing so that Androtics will have the info anyway when it becomes available again. AD has the crystals for fairly cheap and also offers a suspended version for about half the price of that offered by Lovescent. AD is $40.00 for 10 mg dry crystal and $45 for 10 mL suspended (1 mg/mL). I went ahead and ordered from Lovescent, though I may order the crystals from AD in the future. Diane ---
**Author:** ![abqbelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/abqbelly/32/2448_2.png) [@abqbelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abqbelly)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/27 "2008-12-02T01:32:44Z")
what is est? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282/28 "2008-12-02T05:54:02Z")
> [@abqbelly](#): > > what is est? EST is short for Estratetraenol. It is an [experimental pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/experimental-pheromones/) which is under patent by another company, and therefore not available for testing from Androtics at the moment. EST is one of those really tricky pheromones that experienced pheromone addicts and dedicated pheromone testers play around with to see what the effects are. It has different effects on men and women. It has different effects depending on what it is paired up with. And it has different effects depending on the dosage. Some people find it stimulating, some find it motivational. Currently it is patented for use in one single cologne at nanomolecular (really tiny) amounts, which is really not suitable for our testing purposes. 🙄 Diane [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-my-my-mx135-est/9282.md?page=1)