# My name is Amber!

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [February 9, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911 "2009-02-09T23:51:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/1 "2009-02-09T23:51:33Z")

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Hi! My name is Amber, I am 31 nearly 32 eeek ha! I live in New Mexico and in a long term relationship w/my boyfriend of 3+ years.  
Ive always been interested in all things “human”, so I watch a lot of the History Channel, A&E, Discovery ect when there’s something that peeks my interest.  
So Ive naturally seen several shows on human sexuality. Finally Ive come to a place in my life where I feel I could hopefully benefit.  
Like I said I have a boyfriend, and well he is probably one of the least aggressive/inhibited sexually partners Ive ever had. I love him dearly, I just wish he showed more initiative, that “animalistic” side of him or at least something. Im sorta frustrated. We get together and work really well together, I just want to really feel wanted.  
I hope this is making sense? lol

I do not expect miracles or anything I just want to see if theres something that can inhance what is already there. There is definite chemistry between us or we wouldnt still be together.

I am a bit clueless on what I really need as far as pheros and I dont know where to start. All the info and products are overwhelming and I dont want to waste my money on something thats just a “gimic”.  
Any help would be appreciated.  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/2 "2009-02-09T23:57:43Z")

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Hey there Amber, welcome to the forums! Yup, quite a few of the new people signing up since yesterday were the ones who watched that Discovery channel show on Sexual Appeal. Kinda sad i missed it now… but that’s what happens when you’re studying for a philosophy test! ☹ I’m sorry to hear about the lack of aggression, but let’s see if we can’t help with that. 😉

First off, would you mind tell us a few things? Like what kind of personality do you have? Shy or outgoing? And you mentioned that your boyfriend is not very aggressive… is that in most cases, or just when you’d like to be intimate? Are you going to tell him about the [pheromones](https://a314.com/), or try to take him unawares? 😃 That last one matters on whether we’d recommend something for him to wear to make him a bit more aggressive, or whether all our suggestions will be for you.

I’ll be waiting for your responses! Thanks in advance!

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/3 "2009-02-09T23:58:05Z")

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Hi Amber, welcoem to the forum.

Yes, your explanation made sense!

Can you tell us a bit about your personality? Are you shy or outgoing? We’ll make suggestions based upon you, which is not a gimmick.

Looking forward to your reply! Thanks!

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/4 "2009-02-10T00:07:54Z")

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HI there,

Welcome to the forum.

Like Robbie said, tell us more about your personality. Then we will recommend the right phero for you to try.

You can trust the pheromones from this side. It is not a gimmick, it is legitimate. You can read the posts here. They are poste by real users

Cheers

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**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/5 "2009-02-10T00:08:33Z")

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Hello and welcome to the forum!

Hopefully some of the women can swing by and give their 2 cents, but from what I know, you can try turn up the heat, which might help out in the bedroom, also wearing some of the [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/)’s might also help for attraction with him, which may help out too.

Hope this helps, best of luck

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**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/6 "2009-02-10T01:31:37Z")

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> [@Mr.Feel\_Good](#):
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> Hey there Amber, welcome to the forums! Yup, quite a few of the new people signing up since yesterday were the ones who watched that Discovery channel show on Sexual Appeal. Kinda sad i missed it now… but that’s what happens when you’re studying for a philosophy test! ☹ I’m sorry to hear about the lack of aggression, but let’s see if we can’t help with that. 😉
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> First off, would you mind tell us a few things? Like what kind of personality do you have? Shy or outgoing? And you mentioned that your boyfriend is not very aggressive… is that in most cases, or just when you’d like to be intimate? Are you going to tell him about the pheromones, or try to take him unawares? 😃 That last one matters on whether we’d recommend something for him to wear to make him a bit more aggressive, or whether all our suggestions will be for you.
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> I’ll be waiting for your responses! Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the welcomes yall! Wow yall work fast! ha I like that!  
Well as far as my personality, I think early on I can be shy, but once you get to know me Im much more open, it depends on the circumstances. And if it’s a party and Ive got any alcohol in me and there’s music, you betta watch yo’self haha.  
Over all Im a passionate and usually thoughtfull person, Ive had my moments of open mouth and insert foot.  
I have the benefit of people assuming Im younger than I actually am, sometimes I wonder if it’s my physical appearance or my personality, or maybe a combination.  
My interests include music, art/crafts (Ive taught myself how to make beaded jewelry, crochet and other stuff, I get bored kinda easy), pets, computers/internet, CNN (I watch it waaaaaaay too much!).  
I am also a single mom to a nearly 6yo boy. 😃  
I consider myself very socially liberal and open minded, of even those who are not (I try at least).  
I think I am agressive and really open when it comes to my sexuality, I enjoy sex. I dont understand women who say it doesnt matter or they dont really care for it or about it, but everyone is different.  
It’s funny I can be aggressive, but I can be shy too (I think it’s that whole “sex is bad” that our society teaches us, so I still can get giggly, feel stupid and embarassed or like Im dirty lol).  
I do not mind making the first step as far as initiating the first kiss or even sex, but I dont like doing it ALL the time.  
Makes me feel like Im the only one that wants it, or like theres something wrong w/me, which I know theres not.  
I want to be passive too, just take me, throw me on the bed ect ect lol.  
I think I am playfull and very affectionate,sensual, when it comes to my bf I am very into touch. I am actually a massage therapist but not employed right now. My goal it to make sure he feels good and knows he’s wanted and loved.

As far as the BF, by trade and lifemission he is a computer software engineer, so obviously he is very smart. Extremely mechanically inclined, he loves cars: driving and working under the hood, Digital photography, Video games, paintball, likes guns (but currently doesnt have one, but is big on a citizens rights to arms ect ect, me not much of a gun lover but I digress.). He is aggressive and take charge at work, as he’s the main programmer there, their bread and butter really. He can be aggressive when he has an opinion and we have (cough, cough) “discussions” lol.  
He is not the type to just lay down do what you want at all, which is a good thing.  
However in the bedroom, he is pretty basic, the basics _are_ good, the “job” definitely gets done and gets done well. I just want to go beyond that basics. I think I have and will be very patient w/him.  
I think part of his feelings/attitude towards sex have something to do w/his personality of being a “geek”, in that he has always focused on school and learning, he is social but not _that_ social. The computer was his first love, lol. He lost his virginity when he was 19, when he was in college. Im thinking the girls he was w/really didnt care about doing anything interesting and he probably didnt stay w/them long enough for them to notice 😕.  
I guess he figured what he was doing worked so why mess w/it, if aint broke dont fix it? Honestly Im have a hard time figuring that out. I do know this is not that uncommon for the highIQ’ed blessed/cursed beings (I say a genius doesnt know everything they just assume they do lol).  
In his 20’s before I knew him, he drank a lot and went to clubs and parties, but he’s a “grown up” now and we just dont do a lot of that stuff.  
I think maybe he thinks he’s “old” now, he’s not even 34 yet, the boy is NOT old. I think work stresses him out and gets to him so that does play a part.

I do not plan on telling him, unless he “senses” something or I feel like telling him lol. I think if I tell him he will start making assumptions.  
Ok this was really long, sorry about that!  
I am eager to read everyones responses!!

Thank you!!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/7 "2009-02-10T01:51:13Z")

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Wow, thanks for all that information, it really helps! Let’s see what damage i can do with that then. 🆒

First off: If it’s going into new techniques or positions that you’re looking for, no amount of aggressiveness is going to fix that. Aggressive guys tend to go for what they already know, not experiment on new moves. You need to either sit down and have a talk with him… or better yet, just move him around in bed. 😃 Ooor, rent a movie and watch it with him (when your kid is asleep, for sure) that you KNOW has a few new positions… when they come up, cuddle up to him, act surprised, and say in a throaty voice “ooo, that looks fun, why don’t we try THAT tonight.” Check out the movie Good Luck Chuck. Has ALOT of positions (you’ll understand if you look up the plot of the movie).

That being said, to increase aggressiveness i would still recommend Turn Up The Heat. What you can do is apply some on to your upper lip to help you get the effects of it, then kiss him alot so that he gets the effects of it as well. See where that goes… 🙄

As for you, i think Instant Sexiness should do you well. There are two types: A and B. IS/a has a dominant, confident, sexy vibe (think Angelina Jolie from Tomb Raider), whereas IS/b has a softer, kittenish, sexy vibe (think marilyn monroe). It sometimes help to match your personality to the type you get, but to be honest that doesnt always work. Some girls find they prefer the type they thought DIDN’T match their personality. But i’m sure they’ll be along to give you more advice on that. 😉

Finally, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) should do you some good as well. It creates a “healthy glow” around you that makes people feel more energetic and upbeat, as well as giving most people the self-effect of a boost of confidence. That may help your “old man” feel a bit more younger and back into his experimental phase. 😃

Hope my two cents helped! Good luck with your trials and hope to see ya some more around the forums! Cheers!

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**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/8 "2009-02-10T02:12:19Z")

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Thanks for the reply Mr. Good ha!  
I guess the main thing I want is something that will increase his libido, something to encourage him to want to have sex, to get him to desire it so he wont wait for me to initiate it. If he would just intiate it, flirt, give signs or something that he wants me, that would make me happy.  
That would do wonders, as far as different moves and what not, meh, baby steps.  
I was hoping there was some sort of [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) that I could wear that would make him want me more.  
He is aggressive w/other areas of his life, but not when it comes to his sexuality. He is just very mild. Early on in our relationship I thought was just beinga gentleman by not being more physcially aggressive, I later on learned it went much deeper than that.

So to make him be more aggressive sexually he has to be the one wearing it? blah!  
Also something that made me be more attractive to him somehow. Something more “anilmalistic” that could help to override his laidback behavior he has in the bedroom.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/9 "2009-02-10T02:17:03Z")

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Ahhh, what you’re talking about is copulins! It’s the female equivalent of androstenone (male sexual phero in TUTH). However, i’m afraid the cops formula for Androtics is being revised at the moment, so most copulin mixes are out. ☹ But what you can do is go to Love Scent (another website) and get something called… Scent of Eros, i believe. It’s straight copulins (will smell BAD) and is kinda weak (may need alot of drops), but supposedly it’s the best thing out there right now. Apparently a good cover scent for it is a perfume called Pink Sugar. Try the search engine and look up copulins, see what kind of advice and tips you can get from previous posts.

I’m sure the girls will be along in a wee bit to do a better job of explaining for ya.

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**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/10 "2009-02-10T02:31:10Z")

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> [@Mr.Feel\_Good](#):
>
> Ahhh, what you’re talking about is copulins! It’s the female equivalent of androstenone (male sexual phero in TUTH). However, i’m afraid the cops formula for Androtics is being revised at the moment, so most copulin mixes are out. ☹ But what you can do is go to Love Scent (another website) and get something called… Scent of Eros, i believe. It’s straight copulins (will smell BAD) and is kinda weak (may need alot of drops), but supposedly it’s the best thing out there right now. Apparently a good cover scent for it is a perfume called Pink Sugar. Try the search engine and look up copulins, see what kind of advice and tips you can get from previous posts.
> 
> I’m sure the girls will be along in a wee bit to do a better job of explaining for ya.

A-ha! I guess I wasnt as clear the first time, I guess I was beating around the bush too much haha. Sorry I find myself very humorous apparently, dont mind me.  
I read some about these cop’s and the “buttcheese” reference really didnt appeal to me lol.  
I have actually smelled “pink sugar” before, since Im into cosmetics and what not, and yeah it smells just like cotton candy, so on it’s own it’s just sickening sweet to me, but apparently someone said men like it?  
😕  
Im afraid it would just make me hungry, for junk food haha.  
But I guess if it mixes w/the eau de buttcheese, it works? lol  
I get what it’s trying to imitate I just dont get how that is a turn on exactly. I mean I guess it’s something to do w/brain triggers, but err yeah ok lol.

I am if nothing but persistant. It’s a bummer there’s nothing really good regarding attracting men, that’s just so unfair!!

Yeah I dont need anything to make me want him more, Im already suffering as it is lol.  
I nearly attack him as it is, lol I cant imagine adding to that.  
I basically want to change rolls, which is weird cuz typically it’s the man that is sexually aggressive and the woman that is like meh. I dont think I am “scary aggressive”, he knows me too well for me to freak him out lol.

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/11 "2009-02-10T03:57:35Z")

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Just so ya know, one woman’s butt cheese can be a man’s libido-supercharger. As with everything else in life, it’s all about perception (if they could make it smell better AND make men melt, they would-- what can I say? Us goofy guys are magically driven to women’s butt cheese!). At the moment though, a discussion about copulins is moot, as the women have been waiting for a while now for the products with copulins to reappear. Currently, they are being reformulated. When they finally release their new and improved copulins, look out!

I suggest [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to help your confidence. Mr Feel Good did a great job summerizing Instant Sexiness, I’m gonna suggest version “A”, though I’m usually off base (Tisha’s the last word on what you should try first, though many women use both “A” and “B” depending on the occasion).

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**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/12 "2009-02-10T04:47:55Z")

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> [@Robbie](#):
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> Just so ya know, one woman’s butt cheese can be a man’s libido-supercharger. As with everything else in life, it’s all about perception (if they could make it smell better AND make men melt, they would-- what can I say? Us goofy guys are magically driven to women’s butt cheese!). At the moment though, a discussion about copulins is moot, as the women have been waiting for a while now for the products with copulins to reappear. Currently, they are being reformulated. When they finally release their new and improved copulins, look out!
> 
> I suggest Instant Shine to help your confidence. Mr Feel Good did a great job summerizing Instant Sexiness, I’m gonna suggest version “A”, though I’m usually off base (Tisha’s the last word on what you should try first, though many women use both “A” and “B” depending on the occasion).

Ok even the word buttcheese is gross to me eww.  
I went to that other site and they said a product that use to smell like the BC now smells like rotten fruit, I suppose thats an improvement.  
I was reading a thread about having a bad day w/IS-B and all it did was get me all confused. lol  
As to when/why, which does what and yaddayadda haha.  
Im really not toally sure if Im more aggressive than kittenish/sub. I think I could be a mixture, it just depends on the cyntax.  
Confidience is something I could always use, so even if things dont go my way, I dont give a crap? lol

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/13 "2009-02-10T06:53:03Z")

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Sorry! Not out to gross anyone out! 🙂

Did you read through the sticky threads in the Women’s section? Did you read this one… [Womens Pheromone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-pheromone-guide/4258) ?

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**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/14 "2009-02-10T06:59:36Z")

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> [@Robbie](#):
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> Sorry! Not out to gross anyone out! 🙂
> 
> Did you read through the sticky threads in the Women’s section? Did you read this one… [Womens Pheromone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-pheromone-guide/4258) ?

Haha I was sorta kidding, sorta, no really it’s ok just yeah, mental picture, no really Im fine.  
Ive looked at some stuff and I just posted in there, Ill read more.

Also I was wondering what TUTH would do by _me_ wearing it on my upper lip and the bf kissing me? I thought it was only suppose to affect women? What affect would it have on him?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/15 "2009-02-10T12:36:05Z")

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> [@AshesBlue](#):
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> Also I was wondering what TUTH would do by _me_ wearing it on my upper lip and the bf kissing me? I thought it was only suppose to affect women? What affect would it have on him?

Well, some of these products have self-effects for the people that are supposed to wear them (IS can boost confidence, TUTH can make men more aggressive, Spaceland can make you ditzy 🙄), but since you’ll be the one wearing it, we can’t call it a self-effect, now can we? 😉 But it may still give that effect if he gets a good whiff a couple of times (remember, phero’s may take 10+ minutes of being exposed, so pick a time when you’ll be close for a bit).

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/16 "2009-02-10T20:12:49Z")

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As MFG says, you’ll have some self-effects, so you will probably find yourself more worked up than usual. The upside is, he should be more worked up than usual as well!

I may be wrong, but there are some other mixes (MX135, maybe?) that you can also use to get him worked up too…

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**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/17 "2009-02-10T20:23:53Z")

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> [@Mr.Feel\_Good](#):
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> Well, some of these products have self-effects for the people that are supposed to wear them (IS can boost confidence, TUTH can make men more aggressive, Spaceland can make you ditzy 🙄), but since you’ll be the one wearing it, we can’t call it a self-effect, now can we? 😉 But it may still give that effect if he gets a good whiff a couple of times (remember, phero’s may take 10+ minutes of being exposed, so pick a time when you’ll be close for a bit).

Ahh ok thanks for explaining, I was wondering but not sure.  
Im usually the one to try unauthordoxed things, Im the hippie of the relationship. He need scientific proof, and yes while there have been studies on pheremones, I think he’d still consider it more along the lines of those “increase the size of that certain male body part” type of things lol.  
I also dont want him to think there is anything “wrong” w/him.

Ive known _about_ pheromones for a long time, like a few years ago I saw something where they took shirts of different men, and had women smell them and it showed the shirt they all preferred had something to do w/this person’s pheromones.  
So it’s not new to me, but I never really looked into it until now. And there are enough people trying to make a buck off of it that are basically snake oil so that enough to make people think it’s a bunch of crap.

I think he has it in him, he just was never around the right person to bring it out in him, least thats what I tell myself. 🆒

I looked at that “spaceland” not realizing it was one of the not for amatuers phero’s the effects sound like they could be really bad depending on your circumstances.  
I would love to find something that would help me go to sleep, or nearly knock me out if that was possible lol.  
I am having _the_ hardest time going to bed at a decent hour. It’s like when Im suppose to sleep I can not relax, it’s like there’s pressure to sleep and my mind wont let go even though Im tired. It’s very frustrating, Ive always been a night owl but this is just ridiculous!

Anyway, this could all probably go in a separate thread. 😛  
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate everyones comments!

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/18 "2009-02-10T22:11:42Z")

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> [@AshesBlue](#):
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> _ **I would love to find something that would help me go to sleep, or nearly knock me out if that was possible lol.** _  
> _ **I am having the hardest time going to bed at a decent hour. It’s like when Im suppose to sleep I can not relax, it’s like there’s pressure to sleep and my mind wont let go even though Im tired. It’s very frustrating, Ive always been a night owl but this is just ridiculous!** _

Hi Amber, welcome! 🙂

Nice to meet another night owl. 😮 😃 For relaxation before bed there are a number of things you can do. As far as pheromones go…stay away from the ones you know for sure are stimulating to you. Try [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). It simply relaxes, comforts and calms me down, however, some of the ladies have reported getting sleepy effects from it so it might help you out in that way.

Not related to pheromones but just as a suggestion…a few things that work well for me may also help you. First before bed set aside that time for quiet. That means no stimulating food, beverages or activities…you need to wind yourself down, no? Lower the lights and sit quietly…brew yourself a nice cup of Passionflower or Valerian tea (Be warned though Valerian works very well to promote sleep but..it kinda..er..stinks 😛…and you’ll need to sweeten it as well. Passionflower is more pleasant as far a fragrance and taste go.) Also you can try sublingual Melatonin. Just slip one under your tongue and let it slowly dissolve. Start with a 1mg tablet, you can increase to 2-3mg if you find you need a little more for effect. When you feel the wave of sleep coming, go with it and go straight to bed. Hopefully that’ll help. 🙂

Looking forward to seeing you on the forum!

Bella

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/19 "2009-02-10T22:33:21Z")

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Hello Amber

My name is Tisha and I am the hostess/Phero guide here on PT.

We talked a little down in the ladies forum. First Scent of Eros has very little copulins in it. Your better off getting one of the [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) products over it. Don’t get me wrong SOE is a excellent social product but I cant in good conscious suggest it for your situation.

Its Essence of women, EOW that is pure copulins and smells like rotten fruit and butt cheese. Now the maker has not been consistent with the formula so while it once smelled like butt cheese it now smells more fruity and you need a little more then the old formula to get the same results. Don’t be afraid of the smell its not hard to cover and it works like a charm once you find the correct dosage for you.

See women as they get older stop making natural copulins. Copulins signal “I am a good mate, a fertile female” Men’s Testosterone levels spike by 130% to 150% when exposed to it and they become aroused and sometimes aggressive. Now another reason we can make less copulins is if we were ever on the pill. Women on BC stop making as much because the body believes its already pregnant and stops ovulating.

Androtics is working on a better smelling effective formula now and we have been patiently waiting for it. I gotta admit my patience is running thin though LOL

Instant sexiness has copulins in it to but in small amounts so its wearable in any situation and its a great primer to slowly spike his levels and cause interest and attention. I explained about them in your other post.

IH is also great to deepen intimacy and that connected feeling. Its can cause comfort which may be something he needs to become more aggressive.

Now don’t be disappointed if you don’t see results right out of the gate. Your BF knows you natural mone signature and needs to be reprogrammed, so to speak to these new feelings he will be feeling. My husband took almost a week before he stopped looking at me like I had three boobs and responded. He was just trying to place what it was that was different about me.

There are some other putatives that may be useful for your situation as well but its best to start with the consumer products first.

If you have any questions just ask.

**Your GC is on its way** 😉

Oh and later in the ladies forum we will go over some ideals on seducing him and getting hi a little worked up 😃

Tisha  
Hostess/Phero Guide

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-name-is-amber/25911/20 "2009-02-13T09:45:50Z")

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I feel myself identify with your BF ,so it could be, he don´t want to be rude with you, but probably he desires to throw you on the bed and try new things,but is afraid to be offensive .  
So maybe you could sugest what you want and be seductive,that way he´ll fell entitled to take the initiative.
