# My new AMMO pack testing notes

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 31, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638 "2008-07-31T16:26:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638/1 "2008-07-31T16:26:31Z")

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I took a shower this morning and hopefully washed off yesterday’s [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (mx271 2 sprays at 9am, turn up the heat 3 sprays around 2pm, ).

I put on MX275 2 sprays or 1.5 because the first one was smaller.

Smells like MX203 you guys call it the game scent.

No self effect noticeable. I’m just trying to get myself positive as I’m going through some life change. I’m switching majors in school and I am happy about it but unsure.

I walk out of my room, head downstairs.

The girl at the front dest looks at me, I say “Good Morning” she doesn’t respond. Its ok. Its Caroline, she’s random and moody, faking nice sometimes and a bitch other times(don’t think pheromones have anything here, unless they made her pussy tickling and she couldn’t stand those feelings for me 😛) . I remain unaffected and move with my day.

I went to starbucks. Ashley the barista was talking to a hottie chick. I just wanted to eat that girl right there. Hottie wasn’t facing me and haven’t picked on anything from her. Ashley says “hey Saifz”. Then she joins me a minute later to take my order. She didn’t chat me up, usually she does and she’s very nice and courteous and nice to me. She has a boyfriend btw.

Laura the other barista walks in “hey you”, i say “hey you” back in a more joking tone…they finally figured out what I wanted to order, and i go wait to pick it up..

i see ashley’s roommate that she introduced me to last week studying, she walks past me to throw something..

“hello ashley’s roommate”  
“hey _smiles_ its Catherine” “Saifz right?”  
“yeah, now you make me feel bad cuz I forgot your name”  
“no, its ok… i mean im sure you meat a lot of girls _pause_ through ashley so” I take this as an IOI, the “treshhold of asshole” type of IOI…where i guess a girl likes you and she’s that close to thinking you’re a jerk because you don’t like her back.

its a simple idea:

guy sees girl…girl is in his reach, “oh that girl looks cute”  
guy sees girl…girl out of his league, “damn she’s hot, nah she must be a bitch” we do that to protect our ego, we judge people we don’t even know..girls think the same way

and there’s that whole idea of letting her know you’re within reach. a girl wants to work to get the guy, but she also wants to know she CAN get him. No one wants to hope for something they can never have.

maybe I should’ve IOIed her back, but I was speechless..i had a 15 minute talk with her last time and couldn’t remember her name 😛

we chat for a minute, about what she’s studying bla bla (bad idea)..i pick my drink, made sure Ashley remembers it next time..said bye to cat, and left while staring at random hottie’s tits. I didn’t approach her, oh well..

anyways, so I didn’t get major IOIs but the general vibe today is not exactly friendly, still strong…its like putting people at a distance while still getting reactions..its kinda like high dose A314 reaction with less trust and happy..

there is no BOOM effect on the girls, like AMMO for example..

wearing AMMO + walking by a girl or girl seeing me = girl touching her hair.. its like AMMO hits them in their pants (i guess where the name came from 😛)

Again, some of the vibe could be from my internal state, im kinda pissed off at my roommate and waiting for him to leave (1 more week)..

more testing to be done.. with longer time, and different dosage.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638/2 "2008-07-31T17:58:46Z")

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Great report, I’ll be posting my own report here in a few moments. Need to do my work though first

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**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638/3 "2008-07-31T19:08:30Z")

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I added one spray an hour and a half ago…

IM FURIOUS right now.. I don’t know if the mix has anything to do with it..

I was friendly an hour ago, having lunch with some buddies (guys). and the vibe was good and everyone was joking. I came back to my dorm and saw the front desk girl and I just wanted to beat her up. I went to my room and they didn’t clean it today. I went looking for the housekeeping manager and couldn’t find him, so I had to go the front desk and I hardly kept myself together.. if any of this is from the mix i wonder what [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) does..

oh, in the restaurant..there was a lot of eye contact from girls, cautious/curious though..not flirting, basically cuz I had “a fuck off” on my forehead to some level so no girl would dare flirt..

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638/4 "2008-07-31T19:17:25Z")

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Wow saifz, you just confirmed my doubts!!!

> [@=) Little bird's Roadlog (=](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/little-birds-roadlog/16270/15):
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> AMMO1 (mx275) I just got the ammo testing pack along with ishine 2.1!!! So i can report more accuratly with both new version of ishine slight_smile (a big reason was i found out that the newer version is basically the same price as normal version, there was a glitch before that make it look like double price) All the ammo pack is game scented, for those who are curious. I dont hate that smell as much as i hated before cool So I put on 3 sprays of ammo1 then went to my dentist for exam and…

I was angry and depressed!!

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**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638/5 "2008-08-01T11:17:59Z")

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i should test it today but i have an important meeting in school, will stick with A314 😉

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-new-ammo-pack-testing-notes/16638/6 "2008-08-01T21:45:56Z")

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> [@Saifz](#):
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> the “treshhold of asshole” type of IOI

HAHAHA, that is about right, I have gotten alot of those, where I did not react with the right timnig and I was labeled a jerk.
