# My oh my, were did the respect go? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 28, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065 "2009-07-28T10:43:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/1 "2009-07-28T10:43:40Z")
Now, my intent is not to bash the guys, really, it’s just.. that, I’ve been reading alot more of the women’s sections more of the forum, because, well, the men’s section seems to be putting a bad taste in my mouth, if you’ll excuse the turn of phrase. It’s the PUA material, I feel really bad when I read that type of thing, and it just lacks emotional presence, some empathy. It just hurts, it strikes a cord, which seems to be absent in that congregate, and I’m unsure about how I feel about that absence among… I don’t know whether to be saddened or angered, to cry, or disregard. Don’t get me wrong I love the people on this forum, but it is just, hurtful. Does anyone else feel this? ‘Soon ripe, soon rotten; soon wise, soon foolish.’ Think about it. Dominick ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/2 "2009-07-28T10:59:05Z")
I would not let it bother you Dom. This has always been a PUA/Mone forum. Before the new design of the forum they offered Mystery’s products from a link at the top. Jasmin has spent money sending Steve to go meet certain PUA guru’s for interviews The only rule Harris ever officially posted is that the men respect the ladies section and the ladies respect the mens section. PUA is a big part of attraction now a days and since mones are also about attraction you are bound to have members into it. All of it is not bad I just notice a lot of the younger crowd execute it badly. My advice is if it bothers you just dont read it. But to each his own. Besides most of them grow out of it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sunbubbles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@Sunbubbles](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunbubbles)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/3 "2009-07-28T12:32:35Z")
I agree with Tisha, just dont read it. Thats what Ive decided to do since I dont agree with the ethics of PUA at all! BUT I also understand that there is a large part of the male demographic on this site, so I choose to stay mostly in the womens section. No offense to any of the male members of this site, but I do find that I respect the Womens section of this forum much more. _SHRUGS_ thats just my opinion though. If I do go to other parts of the site it usually has to do with the science part of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). That way I dont find myself feeling uncomfortable. Take the good with the bad I suppose. Ive still learned SO much from this site scientifically and otherwise and Im grateful. ---
**Author:** ![rob3014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rob3014](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rob3014)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/4 "2009-07-28T13:23:54Z")
i agree that some of the pua stuff seems kinda off ethically and maturity wise. but, they’re not all bad guys. however, i do find myself reading the women’s forum a lot, too. similar interests and what not. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/5 "2009-07-29T00:21:56Z")
How different men and women are. I personally think women are wasting their money on pheromones. Why? Because unlike men who just want a boost in their chance to nail every single attractive woman he sees and move on, women want to find the one and only Mr. Right or preserve a long time relationship. I think it is a stupid and bad idea to use ‘artificial’ pheromones to seek a soulmate (unless you are the kinda woman who is into banging different handsome guys every night or somethin). For long term you want someone who likes you the way you are. You dont want to get a guy through pheromones and having to buy it for the rest of your life to keep him. As a guy I personally wear pheros only when I wanna get laid or wanna get into a short term relation. But for serious one I go ‘all natural’ so to speak. 😃 Anyway, I dont see any problem with PUA. Can someone tell me whats bad about it? ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/6 "2009-07-29T00:45:25Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > I personally think women are wasting their money on pheromones. Ugh. Woah. Becareful there 😉 > [@jankren](#): > > Why? Because unlike men who just want a boost in their chance to nail every single attractive woman he sees and move on, women want to find the one and only Mr. Right or preserve a long time relationship. Puh-lease. Who said that _all_ women want to find the “one”? And what’s wrong in trying to find Mr.Right or keep their long term partners on their toes? > [@jankren](#): > > I think it is a stupid and bad idea to use ‘artificial’ pheromones to seek a soulmate (unless you are the kinda woman who is into banging different handsome guys every night or somethin). Oh please stop throwing assumptions. > [@jankren](#): > > For long term you want someone who likes you the way you are. You dont want to get a guy through pheromones and having to buy it for the rest of your life to keep him. Well seems like you haven’t been learning your material properly darling. Pheromones enhance what is already there, they don’t change you. It’s not like instant sexiness changes a man’s view about a woman, no for is/a he does not see angelina jolie’s big lips and breasts with a teeny ass on her. He sees her strength, admires her _natural_ beauty and respects her for who she is. And I wouldn’t mind buying [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) for the rest of my life 😃 lol, hell if I need cops to get my bed movin’ I’ll buy it as long as I have too. Does not make a difference if I’m married or not married. > [@jankren](#): > > As a guy I personally wear pheros only when I wanna get laid or wanna get into a short term relation. But for serious one I go ‘all natural’ so to speak. 😃 > > Anyway, I dont see any problem with PUA. Can someone tell me whats bad about it? That’s great 🙂 * * * Domnk : yea, sometimes the PUA stuff can be quite disturbing and just wrong… maybe I just don’t understand it but anyways I stopped reading that stuff long time ago myself. Like many people suggested, don’t read it if it disturbs you and you should be fine sweetie 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rob3014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rob3014](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rob3014)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/7 "2009-07-29T01:08:53Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > Ugh. Woah. Becareful there 😉 > > Puh-lease. Who said that _all_ women want to find the “one”? And what’s wrong in trying to find Mr.Right or keep their long term partners on their toes? > > Oh please stop throwing assumptions. > > Well seems like you haven’t been learning your material properly darling. Pheromones enhance what is already there, they don’t change you. It’s not like instant sexiness changes a man’s view about a woman, no for is/a he does not see angelina jolie’s big lips and breasts with a teeny ass on her. He sees her strength, admires her _natural_ beauty and respects her for who she is. > > And I wouldn’t mind buying pheromone products for the rest of my life 😃 lol, hell if I need cops to get my bed movin’ I’ll buy it as long as I have too. Does not make a difference if I’m married or not married. > > That’s great 🙂 > > * * * > > Domnk : yea, sometimes the PUA stuff can be quite disturbing and just wrong… maybe I just don’t understand it but anyways I don’t read that stuff myself. > > Like many people suggested, don’t read it if it disturbs you and you should be fine sweetie 🙂 I would be lying if I said that sex was not part of why I use pheros…but, it is a very small part. I use them less for trying to score and more for business and social reasons. All part of a bigger self-improvement kick to help attract a quality person for love _and_ lust. I don’t like the feeling of one night stands, never have. I would rather take care of business myself than to do things like lower someone else’s self-esteem or come off as a sugar daddy to make them want me…who wants a gold-digging, attention-whore? I don’t…not that there’s anything wrong with that! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/8 "2009-07-29T01:11:49Z")
> [@](#): > > I would be lying if I said that sex was not part of why I use pheros…but, it is a very small part. I use them less for trying to score and more for business and social reasons. All part of a bigger self-improvement kick to help attract a quality person for love and lust. hey, I didn’t complain! 😛 > [@](#): > > I don’t like the feeling of one night stands, never have. I would rather take care of business myself than to do things like lower someone else’s self-esteem or come off as a sugar daddy to make them want me…who wants a gold-digging, attention-whore? I don’t…not that there’s anything wrong with that! lol, to each it’s own 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rob3014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rob3014](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rob3014)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/9 "2009-07-29T01:14:32Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > hey, I didn’t complain! 😛 > > lol, to each it’s own 🙂 sorry, i meant that as reply to jankren. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/10 "2009-07-29T01:29:52Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > Ugh. Woah. Becareful there 😉 Ooops, I think I heard Androtics secret police knocking on my door. 😃 > [@](#): > > Puh-lease. Who said that _all_ women want to find the “one”? And what’s wrong in trying to find Mr.Right or keep their long term partners on their toes? Then what is so ‘right’ about him if he likes you because of an ‘enhancement’ not because of the way you are? > [@](#): > > Well seems like you haven’t been learning your material properly darling. Pheromones enhance what is already there, they don’t change you. It’s not like instant sexiness changes a man’s view about a woman, no for is/a he does not see angelina jolie’s big lips and breasts with a teeny ass on her. He sees her strength, admires her _natural_ beauty and respects her for who she is. I never liked Angie Jolie. I dunno why. So I dont really understand what you are talking about. 😃 > [@](#): > > And I wouldn’t mind buying pheromone products for the rest of my life 😃 lol, hell if I need cops to get my bed movin’ I’ll buy it as long as I have too. Does not make a difference if I’m married or not married. That is my point. Im perfectly fine if women buy pheros to get some action for temporary personal physical pleasure like the guys (including me) do. But I just feel bad for people who use pheros to maintain or attract emotional connection. > [@](#): > > I would be lying if I said that sex was not part of why I use pheros…but, it is a very small part. I use them less for trying to score and more for business and social reasons. All part of a bigger self-improvement kick to help attract a quality person for love _and_ lust. I don’t like the feeling of one night stands, never have. I would rather take care of business myself than to do things like lower someone else’s self-esteem or come off as a sugar daddy to make them want me…who wants a gold-digging, attention-whore? I don’t…not that there’s anything wrong with that! 🙄 Then pheros are like drugs to you. It seems like you cant enjoy life without it. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/11 "2009-07-29T01:31:20Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > How different men and women are. > > I personally think women are wasting their money on pheromones. Why? Because unlike men who just want a boost in their chance to nail every single attractive woman he sees and move on, women want to find the one and only Mr. Right or preserve a long time relationship. I think it is a stupid and bad idea to use ‘artificial’ pheromones to seek a soulmate (unless you are the kinda woman who is into banging different handsome guys every night or somethin). For long term you want someone who likes you the way you are. You dont want to get a guy through pheromones and having to buy it for the rest of your life to keep him. > > As a guy I personally wear pheros only when I wanna get laid or wanna get into a short term relation. But for serious one I go ‘all natural’ so to speak. 😃 > > Anyway, I dont see any problem with PUA. Can someone tell me whats bad about it? Well you just made it very obvious you know little about the mones sold here at Androtics. All mones are not for a sexual response. You should know this you have been here long enough. Some cause a emotional response, a feeling of closeness, open’s communication more, etc etc… Copulins increase attractiveness not just cause a rise in testosterone. This was proven by Astrid Jutte studies. So while men wear mones just to get laid, Women are a bit more advanced then that and we use them for many other reasons and they work just fine for our purpose. Dont feel bad because they just enhance they dont change. We have told people that for years so it wont create the emotional connection just make it more productive. This is not to say we dont use them to increase sexual desire at times or to intensify a sexual experience. Just that there are more to mones then just sex and that is what Androtics is all about. Its why they dont have the cheesy sex selling sites the other mone companies tend to have. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/12 "2009-07-29T01:37:25Z")
when anything encourages you to be fake, not who you truely are, then its going to reflect POORLY on _anyone who promotes it_. anything that enhances who you are, well then thats why i cut my hair or wear magenta 😉 boost the _postitive_. pua, _when_ it encourages fakeness and dishonesty, is really not different to me than selling drugs if you are starving. hey, everyone needs to eat,right? bleh. id rather starve. 🙄 making MANY women adore you and want to sleep with you because you have _real_ qualities to offer- and sleeping with _all of them_ because you _CAN_- absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. but im okay with the different perspectives on it. i know mine isnt the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/13 "2009-07-29T01:54:12Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > But I just feel bad for people who use pheros to maintain or **attract** emotional connection. Ok, that’s confusing.. why? Emotional distance is your preference? I suppose in PUA methodologies apathy is helpful. 😕 > [@jankren](#): > > Then pheros are like drugs to you. It seems like you cant enjoy life without it. Too many assumptions… Dominick ---
**Author:** ![rob3014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rob3014](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rob3014)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/14 "2009-07-29T02:13:22Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > Then pheros are like drugs to you. It seems like you cant enjoy life without it. i can stop any time i want, i swear! 😃 no, but thanks for the laughter-inducing assumptions i keep seeing. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/15 "2009-07-29T02:56:17Z")
Let jankren alone, guys. Although some of the things he said do might ring a sour note, his main concern is one that I also have: If someone falls in love with me, I would prefer the qualities for which they adore me to sound loud and clear with or without pheromones. Pheromones can be used for many purposes. In the beginning of any relationship, they can help to augment attractive characteristics in a way which might cause the other individual to notice you. The attraction may also be something intangible and not related to any particular characteristic of yourself, but the pheromone signature catches the attention of the other individual and allows them to see aspects of your character that they might otherwise overlook. Either way, this is fine. The feeling of closeness induced by P74 and the trust invoked by beta-androstenol can both accelerate a relationship towards a stabler and more healthy phase. However, if I found a person I would like to give a shot at a long-term relationship, and even eventually marriage, it would pain me terribly if I noticed that they doted on me and adored me while I was wearing A314 but not otherwise. Pheromones do cause significant changes in the way others see you, and in the way you yourself act and project yourself to others. You argue that pheromones “enhance” aspects of oneself that are already there, but what about reported instances involving androstenone, [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), and some of the putatives. Occasionally, it seems like a usually rather reserved individual finds themselves emboldened; suddenly sharper of tongue, quicker of wit, and sooner to fury. That doesn’t seem like an augmentation. It seems like a change. Now, in some manner, this may actually be an enhancement of qualities that have been held in check through fear or simply not observed by the individual possessing them. But occasionally the effects caused by pheromones are so drastic as to make one wonder “Who is this person? Is this really me speaking?” This is what can cause such fear. Of course, one could identify the characteristics of themselves which are affected or augmented by the pheromones and work to heighten them phero-free. But it can still be a frightening thought that the pheromones actually do create something new, and that without them, attraction could vanish. You say jankren must obviously know hardly anything about the purposes and effects of Androtics’ products, and on various counts (including the generalizations about men and women) there are problems in his argument. But no matter how many reports on pheromones we read on the forum, the nature of pheromones is elusive, subtle, and very subjective. Everything most of us know about them comes from spraying them onto our bodies and paying attention, or from reading reports by other people who have done just that. We can observe them only indirectly, and this makes it extremely difficult to eradicate doubts we may have about them, their effects, and ourselves. Pheromonal science is a relatively new field, and despite the vast amount of research Androtics, this forum, and other independent entities have done on them, hardly anything seems set in stone, including the idea that pheromones only enhance what is already there. Certain pheromonal signatures correspond with certain genetic and physiological structures in the human body (androstenone is produced in higher levels by individuals who also produce higher levels of testosterone) and humans (and all organisms) are driven biologically to seek out individuals with genes that will best complement their own. Humans have also developed methods by which to indirectly analyze the genetic makeup of others. (Remember the experiment where women were asked to smell sweaty T-shirts of men they hadn’t seen and choose the most attractive?) By adding or subtracting pheromones from our signatures, we are inadvertently changing the genetic makeup perceived by others. While human relations are far more complex than this, we are at least subconciously driven by animal urges based in reproduction and the production of more fit offspring. (Animal urges, that special spark, chemistry.) Even if ultimately there will be no effect, this idea creates further uncertainty when one ponders: “If I stop spraying this stuff on my wrists, will she stop loving me?” ---
**Author:** ![rob3014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rob3014](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rob3014)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/16 "2009-07-29T03:20:33Z")
> [@Vespero](#): > > “If I stop spraying this stuff on my wrists, will she stop loving me?” change the she to a he and i can say no. i have used them less or not at all and people i wore pheros around and complete strangers still treat me the same. maybe their use and the social analysis that testing them requires just gave me the push i needed psychologically to open up and could’ve influenced my body’s own production/response to them. i can’t explain it all, but i appreciate the products and the forum. i mean jankren no ill will, i just know BS when i smell it and have laughed out loud at guys AND gals who use lines, that’s all. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/17 "2009-07-29T04:16:53Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > Then what is so ‘right’ about him if he likes you because of an ‘enhancement’ not because of the way you are? Ya know something, if I find Mr.right I wouldn’t stop wearing makeup, stop using pheros, stop wearing my favorite stuff, just to be “myself”. These things enhance me, I will want to look way better just for him. That’s how I roll honey. > [@jankren](#): > > I never liked Angie Jolie. I dunno why. So I dont really understand what you are talking about. 😃 I was talking about a product, seems like you need to take a longer look at the ladies forum before saying anything baby. Please read my statement well before you talk to me, boy 😉 > [@jankren](#): > > That is my point. Im perfectly fine if women buy pheros to get some action for temporary personal physical pleasure like the guys (including me) do. But I just feel bad for people who use pheros to maintain or attract emotional connection. Ugh nevermind. I’m not even going to waste my precious breath. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/18 "2009-07-29T04:47:45Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > Ok, that’s confusing.. why? Emotional distance is your preference? I suppose in PUA methodologies apathy is helpful. 😕 I prefer finding someone whom I can connect with emotionally without any ‘external enhancement’. 🙄 > [@](#): > > Ya know something, if I find Mr.right I wouldn’t stop wearing makeup, stop using pheros, stop wearing my favorite stuff, just to be “myself”. These things enhance me, I will want to look way better just for him. That’s how I roll honey. Well, then I feel bad for you if you have to do all that 24/7 just to keep someone’s interest. No offense. Anyway, I love you Vespero for backing me up all the time and re-explaining my opinion in a much more elegant way. I meant no harm with my comments. I think people are just too defensive and sensitive. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/19 "2009-07-29T04:53:15Z")
Vespero, I cannot agree with your theory that pheros _change_ people because I do not believe with any of my heart the posts about morphing into something wholly different. Do I think pheros make people believe they are different? Yes, and its a psychological push. Anyone here can bring out the angel in someone, the same way they can bring out the devil. But it was there to bring out. In order for your words to have any merit, one would have to already agree that humans are wholly a physical being, reactive and primal, without room for intellect,emotion,or a spiritual identity. Pheromones cant make me feel emotional _towards_ anyone, just emotional in general. In order to even REGISTER on alot of ladies radar, you have to have manners. NO AMOUNT of androstenone will make any woman think the man telling her " why, your perdier than shit, darlin!" is hot . in _any way shape or form_. My own experiences with my SO of 16 yrs tells me no pheromone makes him feel differently towards me. They can fuel a fire, but without them the fire is still there. ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/20 "2009-07-29T04:53:37Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > I prefer finding someone whom I can connect with emotionally without any **‘external enhancement’**. 🙄 Well, that means you better stop cutting your hair, brushing your teeth, wearing clothes, and bathing… 😮😉 > [@jankren](#): > > Anyway, I love you Vespero for backing me up all the time. I meant no harm with my comments. _I think people are just too defensive and sensitive._ 😃 Well, then you obviously has overlooked why I started the thread in the first place. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065.md?page=2)