# My oh my, were did the respect go? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 28, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065 "2009-07-28T10:43:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Geena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/geena/32/570_2.png) [@Geena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Geena)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/101 "2009-07-30T22:55:06Z")
lol I love the name Panty Scorcher. I want some because of the name alone. I’d name my first born that! > [@Steve](#): > > I have also noticed the trend of MANY topics in the men’s section to take on a tone of crudeness. I mean how many of us like catlord17? Yet personally the name he assigned to his MX: “panty-scorcher” I found to be quite crass. That’s why personally I have referred to it as PS. ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/102 "2009-07-30T22:57:33Z")
> [@BrunetteBeauty](#): > > lol I love the name Panty Scorcher. I want some because of the name alone. I’d name my first born that! LOL I feel for the kid!! poor thing!!! 😮😮😮 Perhaps, the ladies could get a new mix called the “tent maker” lol ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/103 "2009-07-30T23:09:52Z")
> [@BrunetteBeauty](#): > > lol I love the name Panty Scorcher. I want some because of the name alone. I’d name my first born that! You have hereby lost your childrearing privileges. Various child protection agencies have also been contacted preemptively in case you try to pull a fast one. Entire lives will be awful if you name them things like that. Name them something common, like I plan to do with my kids. Something like Surprise Lightning Attack, or Thogar the Insurmountable, or Agalolulalia Jones. Then at least they can lead decent, normal lives. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/104 "2009-07-30T23:27:52Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > LOL I feel for the kid!! poor thing!!! 😮😮😮 > > Perhaps, the ladies could get a new mix called the “tent maker” lol ^.,.^ I wouldn’t mind some spray on tent maker but for some reason that happens anyway when I bend over to pick something up.😉 And yes I’m a naughty girl lol Whoops there goes my pen…🙄 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/105 "2009-07-30T23:40:29Z")
Pics or it’s not true!!! 😛 > [@ElectraComplex](#): > > ^.,.^ I wouldn’t mind some spray on tent maker but for some reason that happens anyway when I bend over to pick something up.😉 > > And yes I’m a naughty girl lol > > Whoops there goes my pen…🙄 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/106 "2009-07-30T23:42:51Z")
“Mrs. Beauty, can Panty Scorcher come out and play?” 😛 > [@msselva](#): > > LOL I feel for the kid!! poor thing!!! 😮😮😮 > > Perhaps, the ladies could get a new mix called the “tent maker” lol ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/107 "2009-07-30T23:49:31Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > As I’ve just wrote in my previous post, I monitor the points, so I can read comments, it was about 40-50, maybe I counted wrong? I’m unsure. 🙂 Alright, let’s clear the air! The person that negged you took away reps in the low to mid 30’s. And, they have a rep power of between 60 and 70. I won’t say the exact number because then you could probably figure out who it was, as I’m pretty sure I did. So, to say they took 40 to 50 points, then come back again and say you count them, but maybe counted wrong just doesn’t quite add up to me. It sounds more like you were looking for sympathy, which you got plenty of. > [@Domnk](#): > > Oh my, that proverb was in reference to me more so than anything else 😛 I was using it for the ‘Soon ripe, soon rotten’ part, I was feeling good about the forum, and the PUA material got me distraught, the second part was just there, not intended for anything. ☹ Then negative rep me if you wish ☹☹ But I never wrote that all PUA material is used apathetically. And yet that proverb only appears in the post where you talk about being upset with the PUA community. I am not a part of that community, I do not subscribe to the tactics or ethics, nor do I judge them for how they want to live their lives, or attract and seduce women. > [@Domnk](#): > > I did not create that post out of malice, I did not try to rally women against PUA material, I expressed how I was feeling and it was meant to ask the others on the forum, to help put those feeligs in perspective and ideally how to cope with them. Nothing more. > > Dominick But you posted it in the ladies section and asked if any of them agreed with you. I did not see any mention of questioning how to deal with it, but I did see statements about how the mens section is leaving a bad taste in your mouth, that the guys lack emotion, empathy, and are just hurtful, and an absence of something that strikes a chord in you. I am not going to neg you, because as I said you are entitled to voice your opinion, as are the guys that you have a problem with. But, if one of those guys that you were referring to took offense to what you said and negged you for it, then you should have been prepared to deal with it, instead of crying about it. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/108 "2009-07-31T00:12:23Z")
"Show me a Girl with morals, high value, and a belief in self worth. You will find a person with beliefs founded in some higher belief system, does not drink, and does not frequent bars or clubs in general. Generalization are what cause trouble, the above is no different, but it does ground itself in some truth." That is a quote from a known televangalist… no names… That was not my opinion and I even said that " the above is no different" I was raised roman catholic, but am a proud pagan, and maker of “Loki”. And a master bookbinder… so yea.. I cook too… I am no ordinary man. and I love you too Lor & Electra 😉 …Miktoto… are you a BTard\>? ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/109 "2009-07-31T00:15:46Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > ^.,.^ I wouldn’t mind some spray on tent maker but for some reason that happens anyway when I bend over to pick something up.😉 you bad girl!!! bending over is like the easiest thing or a low-cut top can get someone distracted like crazy! pheros aren’t even necessary 😉 … they just… well I guess they could intensify things 😉 > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > “Mrs. Beauty, can Panty Scorcher come out and play?” 😛 _blink_ _blink_ you better behave yourself mon petit 😛 or else I’ll have to punish you! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/110 "2009-07-31T00:19:25Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Alright, let’s clear the air! The person that negged you took away reps in the low to mid 30’s. And, they have a rep power of between 60 and 70. I won’t say the exact number because then you could probably figure out who it was, as I’m pretty sure I did. > > So, to say they took 40 to 50 points, then come back again and say you count them, but maybe counted wrong just doesn’t quite add up to me. It sounds more like you were looking for sympathy, which you got plenty of. _No_, I saw the drop in points, and looked at the comment, it upset me and I focused on the comment, not the points. And that is really rude to imply such a things. I am not infallible, and you claim that the point drop was less, and because I don’t know how you’d know that, I assume you have information I am not privy too, therefore, it is possible I’m not correct, and I must accept that possibility… that’s why I said I might be wrong. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > And yet that proverb only appears in the post where you talk about being upset with the PUA community. That was the only post were I talked directly about how I was feeling about PUA material. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > But you posted it in the ladies section and asked if any of them agreed with you. I did not see any mention of questioning how to deal with it, but I did see statements about how the mens section is leaving a bad taste in your mouth, that the guys lack emotion, empathy, and are just hurtful, and an absence of something that strikes a chord in you. > > I am not going to neg you, because as I said you are entitled to voice your opinion, as are the guys that you have a problem with. But, if one of those guys that you were referring to took offense to what you said and negged you for it, then you should have been prepared to deal with it, instead of crying about it. That’s incredibly rude… Dominick ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/111 "2009-07-31T00:34:39Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > That’s incredibly rude… > > Dominick I never saw an apology from you for having offended a large part of the community here, and I’m sure that there are a number of them that found your original statements in this thread rude. Then there’s this: > [@Domnk](#): > > 😠 _How dare you question my motives of starting this thread, to imply that my intent was of a wicked nature, that’s despicable._ 😠 You actually called a member despicable. That is actually grounds for being banned from the forum, even though you don’t know who you were saying it to. I will not apologize for calling it as I see it, and if you are offended by what I said, might I suggest you take Bella’s advice and use that little ignore button! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/112 "2009-07-31T00:45:07Z")
Yes msselva! Anything you say! 🙂 > [@msselva](#): > > you bad girl!!! bending over is like the easiest thing or a low-cut top can get someone distracted like crazy! pheros aren’t even necessary 😉 … they just… well I guess they could intensify things 😉 > > _blink_ _blink_ > > you better behave yourself mon petit 😛 or else I’ll have to punish you! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/113 "2009-07-31T00:45:51Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Yes, while we are in the garage we can mix up some pheromones in the bucket 😛. Sounds like a date 😃 I will bring the cauldron you just bring the mones and your sexy voice 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/114 "2009-07-31T00:46:45Z")
I would answer you, but I don’t know what that means LOL. > [@djandarial](#): > > …Miktoto… are you a BTard\>? ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/115 "2009-07-31T00:58:24Z")
ER if I can make a point perhaps if we had an area for bi-sexuals and gays there would be less intermingling that might cause a negative reaction in someone who is liable to have more empathy for the opposite gender? I mean seriously I’m more sympathetic to you guys because well I deal with girls from a similar perspective. I also can see the girls point of view a lot of the time but sometimes it makes me uncomfortable too. Because I have some pretty cool guy friends and when they get hurt by a girl I get mad. That and if I have a “naughty” girl on girl report" I wouldn’t want to have another girl bonk into it on accident and be offended. My moms straight and homophobic to a point. _shrug_ So I kinda understand people not wanting to see things sometimes. however , I think other people might benefit from my experiences or those of another member of our community who isn’t straight. Just a thought. Lol although I do keep my boy talk here. ^.^ Oh and I do love the girls reports naughty or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/116 "2009-07-31T01:00:50Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > I never saw an apology from you for having offended a large part of the community here, and I’m sure that there are a number of them that found your original statements in this thread rude. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > I will not apologize for calling it as I see it, and if you are offended by what I said, might I suggest you take Bella’s advice and use that little ignore button! No you did not see that, I made my original most clearer. And with that in mind _I_ will not apologize for ‘calling it as I see it’.. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Then there’s this: > > You actually called a member despicable. That is actually grounds for being banned from the forum, even though you don’t know who you were saying it to. No, you are mistaken, I said “that’s despicable”, which was referencing the act of purposely creating chaos and playing with the female forum members emotions, in the Women Section, which I was accused of. I do not do despicable, wicked things and would never do that, and that was offensive to me. Dominick ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/117 "2009-07-31T01:19:09Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Sounds like a date 😃 I will bring the cauldron you just bring the mones and your sexy voice 😉 > > Tisha Steve _does_ have a sexy voice, doesn’t he…😉 ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/118 "2009-07-31T02:58:09Z")
> [@xev](#): > > Steve _does_ have a sexy voice, doesn’t he…😉 actually, first time I heard Steve I was surprised. I didn’t think he’d sound like that. I forgot what I called for, but I was so surprised that I ended the conversation pretty abruptly. xDDDD And for the topic at hand, PUA material is a tool, just like pheromones, just like a gun, just like a car, just like a stethoscope. If you’re tired of certain people or certain threads, don’t read it. For me, here’s what happens as I go thru and see PUA material by people I feel are using it wrong: skip topic, skip topic, skip topic… OR ignore, ignore, ignore. You might not be able to change the way these people think, act or feel, but you can sure ignore them and stay away from them can’t you? For me personally, I don’t use it because it’s just not me. It doesn’t feel right to me. Not in a bad way or anything, it just doesn’t go with MY flow OR I’m not using it to fit my flow, either way, what ever you want to say. As to why some men don’t seem to respect women, hell, there are a whole bunch of reasons why. For one, women have always been shitted on for centuries. We never gave them respect as a society. What makes you think hundreds of years of disrespect is going to change anytime soon? Some people were just raised differently. My mom pretty much single handedly raised me and from the way I was raised, I can’t help but respect women after seeing what she has done. Some people just aren’t raised to respect women or PEOPLE in general, and others ARE. Some people think with their dicks. I mean, there are times where all I listened to was my dick. My friends have done that. Sometimes it happens, but for some, their dick is what they listen to most of the time, or perhaps ALL of the time and that’s ALL they care about. So where did the respect go? It depends on the person. You can’t generalize a population unless every subject in that population is the same or similar. There’s great people here who do use PUA and are respectful of just PEOPLE in general and then there are those who use PUA and don’t care for ANYONE and there are those in between. Some people tend to believe that since they are a (insert gender, race, culture, occupation here) means that they are experienced enough to speak for others who are a (insert same gender, race, culture, occupation here). It’s something I believe we’ve all done at one point and we fail to realize that we’re everyone is different and an individual. If all you see are guys disrespecting women, hopefully that just means that when they find you, they’ll really know what they found. Now, everyone calm down and get along. New MXs just came out. Be happy! “IT’S A CELEBRATION BITCHES! DRINK AND BE MERRY” (or something along those lines) ---
**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/119 "2009-07-31T04:45:21Z")
> [@BrunetteBeauty](#): > > doucheriffic Such an excellent expression of meaning. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065/120 "2009-07-31T05:11:54Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Not only did he generalize a whole group…women but he admits that some PUA’s dehumanize their targets. That is emotional distancing. **I will say he is not referring to himself but speaking from his observations.** > > I agree its not easy for men, but my take is that PUA material and PUA’s themselves have gotten this reputation because that is what they convey when they post about it. They spend a lot of time blaming and whining. > > I am not objecting to PUA material, I am objecting to the poor interpretation and execution of it and not just by people who are not PUA’s but by the very ones who practice it. > > I am very familar with PUA. I know quite a few PUA’s who are good respectable men here. But we have a whole slew of new one’s who do not I used to be this ‘genuine’ guy who was always being myself. But apparently it got me nowhere unless I lowered my standard wayyy down. I always lost out to other guys who upon the first moment of encounter I already knew they were bad news whom I would steer as far away as possible from from the beginning if I were a girl. The reason I distanced myself emotionally when I talked about dehumanizing women was because Ill be honest no matter how hard I try I just still cant overcome my ‘genuine soft side’. The natural sensitive part of me wont let me to go that far. I wish I could make it disappear though because that part of me is what always lowered my value in my relationships and eventually led me to the losing end. No matter what positive bull crap girls say about ‘nice guys’ I can say from my own experience that it is the biggest lie on earth which the girls themselves probably dont believe in. > [@](#): > > As to why some men don’t seem to respect women, hell, there are a whole bunch of reasons why. For one, women have always been shitted on for centuries. We never gave them respect as a society. What makes you think hundreds of years of disrespect is going to change anytime soon? Bleh, Whatever you are talking about dude. No one gave us men respect for millenia either. But one thing we have learned is that in our world respect must be earned. You cant beg for respect. For example I taught my younger sister that no matter what people say the fact is still that we are living in a man’s world. So if she wanna survive and get respect, she must man up. I told her if someone harassed her or anything dont cry or stay quiet. Just teach that person a lesson. In fact she punched a creep recently for bugging her at school or something and he stopped doing that. Right there respect she earned. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-oh-my-were-did-the-respect-go/31065.md?page=7)