# My order arrived so I went out to play **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [March 23, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-order-arrived-so-i-went-out-to-play/67079 "2017-03-23T17:05:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
**Author:** ![snooker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/46a35a/32.png) [@snooker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snooker)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-order-arrived-so-i-went-out-to-play/67079/12 "2017-04-06T23:15:15Z")
> [@Night\_Hawk](#): > > Wow, only just noticed the 10 shots of TUTH, lol!! Please tell me that’s the 2.5mcg (1x strength) and not the 5mcg (2x Double strength)?!! > > I did 5 shots (2.5mcg) before work and got mauled by one girl, but others I noticed backed right off! The more you add of TUTH the more you have a risk of making people feel uncomfortable, as you may come across that you’re ‘On heat’ like a wild animal looking for a mate! Using too much can also make males become angry, not really seen that myself, but AD does mention it on their store page. > > As I said in my other post, start low (1 or 2 sprays/low mcg’s) then work your way up. Don’t just whack the whole lot on in one go as, in the words of Conjurator, you’ll ‘Cas-per’ yourself almost like being a ghost in a room and no one wants to come near you! > > This is what the store info says about and how to use TUTH. It’s advisable to read it… > > Even 5x ammo is a bit much, totally insane with 10x sprays of TUTH. I have a feeling you have given yourself a negative effect to that of what it is you are trying to achieve! > > Read the forums (Do a search) on TUTH. There’s going to be a few posts, but all will probably say to use a low amount first then build up gradually, just don’t do it all at once! > > NH. > > NH. Hi - yep I know that what I did was over the top but I did that one purpose. I was just seeing if I got any reaction good or bad. Im not using moans all out to try to get people into bed I just thought I would try them out and see if I saw a reaction in anyone mainly for a bit of fun. If I did see some positive effects then that would be a good thing and I would definitely keep using them where they gave me an advantage in any terms. There are a couple of people Id like the to effect more than others but generally Im just trying them out to have some fun. The interesting thing is when I did my over the top dose as detailed here I was out with a friend and his sister who I have known for over 10 years, Id have loved to have seen a pissed off over the top reaction from either of them (a negative or aggressive reaction would have been a good result) and I was hoping for it as if something like that did happen and we fell out Id wait until the next day and just tell them I coated myself with moans and it seems they are very open to been effected by them so to be careful! Id even have shown them this thread the next day and laughed at their reaction. The interesting thing was I saw no difference in the behaviour of anyone at all positive or negative so I purposfully went way over the top because I wanted to see any reaction at all. Ive actually been away on a trip as I posted before which is why I have been quiet. I didnt keep a day by day log on the trip but I was with a group of friends I have know for a long time, a mixed group of male and female, that was when I thought I would do some real testing as we were sharing a villa/rooms and around one another the whole time. I didnt take the ishine because from reading it seems like self effects are one of the biggest reason for using it and as I posted I never had any when using it. I used one type of spray each day with the exception of one day when I mixed. I made mental notes but had the most interest in seeing the effects of the ammo. I honestly didnt see any difference in the way anyone behaved when I was using the sprays, one day I even carried a bottle with me and applied it every 4-5 hours around the same 3 people until I ran out. I will also add that when I used the A314 I felt a little unwell and wasnt a fan of the smell at all but I will say to its credit I think [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) smells amazing and is is likely worth the cost alone just to use to smell so good. Im really cynical as to if these will work on/for me, I know a lot of people swear by them so I am not saying they dont work for anyone else but given Ive not seen any difference in the people around me (even when going over the top on purpose to get any reaction at all) I suspect they dont work for me as an individual. I am not in the position where I would totally write them off for me but I cant get anymore cynical, Ive used up 80% of the intro kit and cant say I have seen anything or even seen a self effect. Id made my mind up to request my money back on the way home from my trip but I found this old post which seemed to have jumped to the top of the forum when I got home: [What is Instant Jerk like, and where is it safe to wear? - #8 by WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk/13760/8) Id read about IJ a few times on here and it seems like the most extreme of products. I am thinking about ordering an IJ and one more bottle of ammo (double power). As IJ seems like the most extreme I could use this as a “final test” and if I didnt see any reaction from anyone using this then I would have put my mind at ease that I tested heavily and these dont work for me as I still have a feeling I might be missing something but I really am on the edge. My understanding is I could either return the intro pack and get a refund towards the new order or just wait and try the IJ and ammo and then if it doesnt seem to do anything I could return the whole lot for a refund. One thing I will say is the service here has been pretty good but I am still cynical about the products for me… --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-order-arrived-so-i-went-out-to-play/67079)._