# My P83 and P86 testings **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 17, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-p83-and-p86-testings/9230 "2008-02-17T09:42:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-p83-and-p86-testings/9230/1 "2008-02-17T09:42:40Z")
Hello to everybody! Today I’m typing about two [putatives](https://a314.com/) that I received recently. These goodies are [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (5 mcg/spray) and [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (5 mcg/spray). I applied my regulat trial for testings, this means, starting for 1 spray and rising it every day trying to understand how they worked. Here you can read my results: Testing Session 1: Putative P83 Starting from 1 spray, I didn’t feel a single effect at all. The Phero smells of alcohol as all the other putatives that I belong. I started to feel some small effects from 2 sprays, but were just I felt relaxed. Even up to 3 sprays I didn’t notice the effects that I’ve read about. No craving feeling, no touching feely. Beside this, I noticed some social effects, but not as obvious as [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) could be. I think that probably I didn’t have so obvious reports as others reported because I was wearing only 15 mcg of putative, while others reported that it should start working from 25-30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram), but this means that I should wear 5-6 sprays of it, and it’s a bit too much for its smell… I have to plan it carefully and find first a good smell to cover it. Testing Session 2: Putative P86 The results of the P86 testings were quite the same as for the P83. In fact, with 1 and 2 sprays I had no effects at all. I started to have some “relaxation” effects from 3 sprays. The thing that I noticed is that these effects were more self-effects than environmental ones. Abstract: The testing trial of these two [putatives](https://a314.com/) wasn’t as expected. In fact, of the expected effects (the craving of the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and the relaxation of [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) weren’t obvious at all. Of course, I still believe that the dosages might be low, but the other [putatives](https://a314.com/) that I tested were working much better in lower dosages. On the moment, I believe that [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are working somehow, but not as good as other [putatives](https://a314.com/) like [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). Of course, it might also be that I used them in the wrong settings, like the everyday life, while they may be working better in the party scene. Probably, I should keep on testing them both on higher dosages, like 30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) each in one time, for a total of 60 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) (P83 30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) + [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) 30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)), but I first I need to find a good way to cover the alcohol smell. If you wish to read more detailed informations about these testing, you can find them all in my journal. Ok, for now it’s all. I hope you found this thread useful. See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-p83-and-p86-testings/9230/2 "2008-02-17T19:19:23Z")
> [@runnerxvr](#): > > Hello to everybody! > Today I’m typing about two [putatives](https://a314.com/) that I received recently. These goodies are [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (5 mcg/spray) and [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (5 mcg/spray). I applied my regulat trial for testings, this means, starting for 1 spray and rising it every day trying to understand how they worked. Here you can read my results: > > Testing Session 1: Putative P83 > > Starting from 1 spray, I didn’t feel a single effect at all. The Phero smells of alcohol as all the other putatives that I belong. I started to feel some small effects from 2 sprays, but were just I felt relaxed. Even up to 3 sprays I didn’t notice the effects that I’ve read about. No craving feeling, no touching feely. Beside this, I noticed some social effects, but not as obvious as Instant Shine could be. I think that probably I didn’t have so obvious reports as others reported because I was wearing only 15 mcg of putative, while others reported that it should start working from 25-30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram), but this means that I should wear 5-6 sprays of it, and it’s a bit too much for its smell… I have to plan it carefully and find first a good smell to cover it. > > Testing Session 2: Putative P86 > > The results of the P86 testings were quite the same as for the P83. In fact, with 1 and 2 sprays I had no effects at all. I started to have some “relaxation” effects from 3 sprays. The thing that I noticed is that these effects were more self-effects than environmental ones. > > Abstract: The testing trial of these two [putatives](https://a314.com/) wasn’t as expected. In fact, of the expected effects (the craving of the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and the relaxation of [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) weren’t obvious at all. Of course, I still believe that the dosages might be low, but the other [putatives](https://a314.com/) that I tested were working much better in lower dosages. On the moment, I believe that [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are working somehow, but not as good as other [putatives](https://a314.com/) like [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). Of course, it might also be that I used them in the wrong settings, like the everyday life, while they may be working better in the party scene. Probably, I should keep on testing them both on higher dosages, like 30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) each in one time, for a total of 60 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) (P83 30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) + [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) 30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)), but I first I need to find a good way to cover the alcohol smell. > > If you wish to read more detailed informations about these testing, you can find them all in my journal. > > Ok, for now it’s all. I hope you found this thread useful. > > See ya > > Franz i find that a 3:1 or higher ratio works best. ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-p83-and-p86-testings/9230/3 "2008-02-17T22:06:05Z")
Hi Tater! Thank you for helping on my research. Do you mean that I should spray in a ratio like [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 30 mcg + P86 10 mcg? Quite interesting. Do you think that 40 mcg are enough to see some acceptable result? See ya Franz