# My Pherocios Findings-The Journal Of JesseJester

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [April 1, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641 "2009-04-01T18:21:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/203 "2010-03-05T02:30:20Z")

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> [@jessejester](#):
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> In fear of being talked out of it, I have not mentioned that I will be attending A Love Systems bootcamp this weekend. I will offer a full review if there is anyone who is interested.

Sure! _ **BOOTCAMP,** _

Quote:  
Originally Posted by **jessejester** [Pheromone geometry](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-geometry/2400/3)  
_I make more trades than the Yankees. 😛_

_You’d make **GEORGE SR**. proud._

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/204 "2010-03-05T17:00:34Z")

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> [@jessejester](#):
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> In fear of being talked out of it, I have not mentioned that I will be attending A Love Systems bootcamp this weekend. I will offer a full review if there is anyone who is interested.

Just in time for the bootcamp, I found a bottle of MX302 in the wrong catagory of my phero collection. I think this is what I will be wearing for the “in-field” part of the training. I will probably add either 1D of A314 to it, or 1x of erone at 10mcgs. Not sure which one yet.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/205 "2010-03-05T19:45:28Z")

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Good Luck! I’m looking forward to reading how things go (maybe I’ll sign up for something like that- sounds interesting).

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/206 "2010-03-09T00:22:39Z")

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Back from Lovesystems Bootcamp. Lots of stuff learned. I will have to figure what to include in the review. All and All a great learning experience.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/207 "2010-03-09T05:45:05Z")

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> [@jessejester](#):
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> Just in time for the bootcamp, I found a bottle of MX302 in the wrong catagory of my phero collection. I think this is what I will be wearing for the “in-field” part of the training. I will probably add either 1D of A314 to it, or 1x of erone at 10mcgs. Not sure which one yet.

Nice find, Mx301/302 are powerful stuff.

While I was looking for info on Mx301/302 and notice that you said younger guys should pair it with IG. I have noticed awesome things from 301, just wondering what exactly you think IG adds to it. I have only been using 1 spray, and getting the kind of results I want, haven’t tried two. Think if I add IG to it will aid in the attractive factor these mixes seem to put out?

Also do you think there is small amounts of -none in 301? Cause I think there is.  
I’ve noticed bnol and TAA type hits from it, but don’t have enough experience in puatives to pin any other effects down.

Sorry for hijacking your journal, I’m just really enjoying these mixes right now and gonna be quite sad when I run out lol.

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/208 "2010-03-10T03:22:49Z")

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> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> Nice find, Mx301/302 are powerful stuff.
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> While I was looking for info on Mx301/302 and notice that you said younger guys should pair it with IG.I have noticed awesome things from 301, just wondering what exactly you think IG adds to it. .

I had received some awesome feedback from people about how they saw me when I was wear 301/302. As in, right from young womans mouths. They said that I appeared manly/masculine to them when I was wearing it. At that time in the forum, 301 and 302 were not getting alot of love, and younger guys were seeing us older guys have alot of success with younger woman and were wondering why they were not seeing the same results. I suggested using a shot of IG to give them a more “older” aspect of the mix. I believe a someone took the ball and did some testing with it and had really good success. I think his name is knowledgeispower or something close to that. He wrote alot of reports on it I believe.

> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> I have only been using 1 spray, and getting the kind of results I want.

If your getting what you want from it I woundnt mess with it too much.

> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> Think if I add IG to it will aid in the attractive factor these mixes seem to put out?.

It could. It might be worth experimenting with. Try it with one spray of 301, then try 2 sprays.

> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> Also do you think there is small amounts of -none in 301? Cause I think there is. I’ve noticed bnol and TAA type hits from it, but don’t have enough experience in puatives to pin any other effects down.

Yes, there is definetly -none in it. Around 5mcgs per spray. There is also bnol, and TAA, p74, p93 and TAC. Buy adding a spray of IG to the mix, you are adding erone to these.

> [@Maidenfan01](#):
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> Sorry for hijacking your journal, I’m just really enjoying these mixes right now and gonna be quite sad when I run out lol.

Your not hijacking at all. This is the type of convo we like in the journals. Stop by with a question or comment anytime.

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/209 "2010-03-16T05:35:17Z")

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As the days pass, I am thinking that maybe my collection is overgrown. All these bottles sit in front of me, and I realize that only a few of them have actually worked to the point of keeping them. 301,302,272, IJ, AMMO, A314, the first batches of 292, these bottles of 297 that i really wish were not akuto scented. Maybe its time to concentrate on what works. Assuming any of them actually return.

Steve, I love mx178, AMMO, and I love the early batches of 292. Dirty, in my short amount of testing has been brilliant, but there has been nothing more consistant than the -none icm’s. Thank you, this is the best, most consistant product here.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/210 "2010-03-16T14:16:48Z")

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> [@jessejester](#):
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> As the days pass, I am thinking that maybe my collection is overgrown. All these bottles sit in front of me, and I realize that only a few of them have actually worked to the point of keeping them. 301,302,272, IJ, AMMO, A314, the first batches of 292, these bottles of 297 that i really wish were not akuto scented. Maybe its time to concentrate on what works. Assuming any of them actually return.
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> Steve, I love mx178, AMMO, and I love the early batches of 292. Dirty, in my short amount of testing has been brilliant, but there has been nothing more consistant than the -none icm’s. Thank you, this is the best, most consistant product here.

I can totallly relate to what you are saying. I have more bottles sitting in one of my desk drawers than I know what to do with. Most are about 1/3 to 1/2 full as I’ve tested them and decided to work on something else.

I totally agree that the ICM’s are brilliant. Thanks to Steve for releasing those! 🙂

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/211 "2010-04-07T23:54:10Z")

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Has anyone made a batch of **ICM 0.25.05b** or **ICM 0.25.1a** and compared the results to MX301 and MX302?

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/212 "2010-04-08T01:03:48Z")

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> [@jessejester](#):
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> Has anyone made a batch of **ICM 0.25.05b** or **ICM 0.25.1a** and compared the results to MX301 and MX302?

Personally, I like the homebrews better. (In other words, yes). 🙂

I will say that they all work (both the homebrews and the MX’s), it is just that for some reason I seem to get better results more consistently with the batches I’ve made myself than with the MX’s. Just my two cents.

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**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/213 "2010-04-08T01:48:42Z")

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Snoopy, I want to try to make MX301 and have the components in std concentrations of 12.5; what I don’t have is a MacOs calculator to get the correct amounts. I am wondering … if you have a calculator could you maybe crunch the numbers for me?

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/214 "2010-04-08T01:56:46Z")

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> [@reddog](#):
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> Snoopy, I want to try to make MX301 and have the components in std concentrations of 12.5; what I don’t have is a MacOs calculator to get the correct amounts. I am wondering … if you have a calculator could you maybe crunch the numbers for me?

Have you tried using nbully’s calculator? That’s what Snoops uses I’m pretty sure.

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**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/215 "2010-04-08T03:12:06Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> Have you tried using nbully’s calculator? That’s what Snoops uses I’m pretty sure.

Nbully’s runs on windows and not on MacOSX; if I have to I could load it at work, but might get in trouble doing it.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/216 "2010-04-08T14:48:05Z")

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> [@reddog](#):
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> Snoopy, I want to try to make MX301 and have the components in std concentrations of 12.5; what I don’t have is a MacOs calculator to get the correct amounts. I am wondering … if you have a calculator could you maybe crunch the numbers for me?

At 12.5 mcg for all ingredients based on a 30ml bottle the amounts you need in ml. 🙂

TAA 4 ml  
Betanol 5 ml  
P93 3 ml  
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 5 ml  
~none 5 ml  
TAC 5 ml

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**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/217 "2010-04-09T01:08:52Z")

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Thanks Snoop your the greatest!

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/218 "2010-04-09T01:53:52Z")

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Jesse that is one of the best Journals here!!!

I have some question:

What you like better P96 or P93 and is p96 a none weaker like P93 and [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)?

I have not test MX302 but what make that mix so good with that much none buffers?

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/219 "2010-04-09T23:22:08Z")

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> [@JohnnyHard](#):
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> Jesse that is one of the best Journals here!!!
> 
> I have some question:
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> What you like better P96 or P93 and is p96 a none weaker like P93 and P74?

First off, thank you for the compliment.

I find I prefer p96 over p93 but please understand that they are 2 different animals.

I fucking love p96. It is one of the most sensual molecules I have encountered. It is extremely versitile. Does p96 weaken -none…not in my opinion. It may buffer it a bit, but it totally can steer the -none signature.

> [@JohnnyHard](#):
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> I have not test MX302 but what make that mix so good with that much none buffers?

Mx302 has just about everything I need in it when I am going out to a social venue. I have found that p74, taa, and anol(Fun side of the mix) are the fastest to register hits, so when I approach someone they are hit with the fun social effect then sexxy side(tac, -none, p93) creeps up on them. Its almost perfect. i dont know if that was what SteveO was going for when he created it, but it contains the molecules i am most congruent with all in one mix.

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/220 "2010-04-09T23:36:41Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> Personally, I like the homebrews better. (In other words, yes). 🙂
> 
> I will say that they all work (both the homebrews and the MX’s), it is just that for some reason I seem to get better results more consistently with the batches I’ve made myself than with the MX’s. Just my two cents.

This is the reason I asked the question.

After making a couple of batches, my hits are…different. Im not trying to start any fires, (which is why I am talking about it here and not in the main forum)but I dont think that 301 and 302 are EXACTLY the same as the formulas that are posted. To be clear…im saying i dont think they are exactly the same. The MX’s seem more buffered. Anyone else finding this…or am I way off base. Maybe my game has got that much better folowing the bootcamp I attended. LoL

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/221 "2010-04-10T00:49:05Z")

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> [@jessejester](#):
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> This is the reason I asked the question.
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> After making a couple of batches, my hits are…different. Im not trying to start any fires, (which is why I am talking about it here and not in the main forum)but I dont think that 301 and 302 are EXACTLY the same as the formulas that are posted. To be clear…im saying i dont think they are exactly the same. The MX’s seem more buffered. Anyone else finding this…or am I way off base. Maybe my game has got that much better folowing the bootcamp I attended. LoL

I’m sure we’ll both get slaps on the wrist for this but I agree with you. I went out just the other day with MX301 in preparation for making a batch of ICM 1a oil and I felt I had to work harder than I did with the ones I’ve made. For the record I was trying to be objective and use the MX301 to remember what the results were like but I know I saw stronger hits with my own batch.

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**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-pherocios-findings-the-journal-of-jessejester/27641/222 "2010-04-10T02:00:59Z")

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MX302 has 3 mcg of [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) in the mix. MX302 has Alpha Androstenol and MX301 has Beta Androstenol and that is the differences between the 2 mixes.

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