# My plan with "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell"

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [March 6, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784 "2009-03-06T03:50:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/21 "2009-03-06T07:29:25Z")

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Try it man! Not that expensive!

> [@revivia](#):
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> Damn lol. The first review alone makes me want to purchase that book now. 😛

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**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/22 "2009-03-06T07:30:30Z")

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If you only knew how many books are on my wishlist…\*covers screen with wishlist in the hundreds. 😛 I’ll see what I can do. Looks like a winner. I love self-improvement books.

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/23 "2009-03-06T07:34:56Z")

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Yeah, this message board and [pheromones](https://a314.com/) makes me want to better my self as a person socially. And this book sounds like a good start. His other books look good too, but they dwell more into PUA stuff from what it looks like.

> [@revivia](#):
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> If you only knew how many books are on my wishlist…\*covers screen with wishlist in the hundreds. 😛 I’ll see what I can do. Looks like a winner. I love self-improvement books.

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**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/24 "2009-03-06T07:36:22Z")

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If only I wish rich. \*sighs…I’ll be rich someday with my companies I will create when I graduate from college 😃. I don’t like working for people, so I prefer working for myself as my own boss and think that is the best thing for me.

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**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/25 "2009-03-06T07:46:46Z")

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It’s interesting to note that the authors are also experts on hypnosis, which is another recent interest of mine. I think hypnosis, NLP, PUA, social dynamics, and self-improvement have a lot to deal with each other. They are all connected in some way.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/26 "2009-03-06T16:51:58Z")

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The basis on most _new_ PUA material coming out these days **IS** self-improvement and social dynamics.

NLP/Hypnosis are tools and are very similar to Mystery Method in that you can use them to get laid/gather attraction.

Tools do not make you a better person - understanding social dynamics and more importantly, developing an understanding of yourself does.

IMO someone who is genuinely developing and becoming the best person they can be is ALWAYS attractive.

Tools can be used to succeed but genuine happiness requires more depth.

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/27 "2009-03-06T17:21:39Z")

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> [@Wrlprchnx](#):
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> Tools do not make you a better person - understanding social dynamics and more importantly, developing an understanding of yourself does.
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> IMO someone who is genuinely developing and becoming the best person they can be is ALWAYS attractive.
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> Tools can be used to succeed but genuine happiness requires more depth.

Here, here! Cheers! 😃

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/28 "2009-03-06T17:32:43Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
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> Here, here! Cheers! 😃

_blush_

… now I just need to get around to following my own advice _eyeroll_

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**Author:** ![IncredulousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4af34b/32.png) [@IncredulousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/IncredulousPUA)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/29 "2009-03-06T18:33:07Z")

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I’m not sure what you are planning to accomplish, but it would seem to me that you are seeking validation. It’s as if you are coming from a needy place. In that aspect why not get a hat or shirt that proclaims you as a PUA?

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/30 "2009-03-06T18:40:17Z")

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> [@IncredulousPUA](#):
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> **I’m not sure what you are planning to accomplish, but it would seem to me that you are seeking validation.**

No kidding.

> [@IncredulousPUA](#):
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> It’s as if you are coming from a needy place. In that aspect why not get a hat or shirt that proclaims you as a PUA?

… erm… PUA in training… I think he wants the books/advice to become some sort of PUA master-jedi-mind-trick-panty-dropping-beast.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/31 "2009-03-06T19:03:31Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
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> No kidding.
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> … erm… PUA in training… I think he wants the books/advice to become some sort of PUA master-jedi-mind-trick-panty-dropping-beast.

Dude… that would be _AWESOME_

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/32 "2009-03-06T20:54:57Z")

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I don’t blame you man, sometimes I wish I could take my own advice as well. It’s practicing what you preach that becomes the difficult part, or your road block in your success of being a better person.

> [@Wrlprchnx](#):
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> _blush_
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> … now I just need to get around to following my own advice _eyeroll_

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/33 "2009-03-06T21:16:58Z")

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> [@IncredulousPUA](#):
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> I’m not sure what you are planning to accomplish, but it would seem to me that you are seeking validation. It’s as if you are coming from a needy place. In that aspect why not get a hat or shirt that proclaims you as a PUA?

Guys, come on. Revivia is a _20 year old guy_. Think back to when you were 20 years old, and give him a break.

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/34 "2009-03-06T21:33:15Z")

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Granted, yes - but the focus should be on the SELF, and having fun and getting to know yourself and your world -

Not crazy tricks/manipulations/shortcuts/validations for everything.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/35 "2009-03-06T21:34:57Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> … Think back to when you were 20 years old,

I can’t remember _that_ far back.😃

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/36 "2009-03-06T21:44:49Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
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> Granted, yes - but the focus should be on the SELF, and having fun and getting to know yourself and your world -
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> Not crazy tricks/manipulations/shortcuts/validations for everything.

I’m almost 25… settled down… but it wasn’t long ago that all i thought about was where the next piece was comming from LOL! I could look back and consider myself an asshole for a lot of the things I did. I’ve since moved on… focused on other things… and became a better person.

I think there is a point where a guy matures… but it’s NOT between 14 and 22 LOL! Hell - it’s probably more acurately around 28 LMAO! I see nothing wrong with focusing on ass AS LONG AS it doesn’t consume your life.

guys and girls think different 😃

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/37 "2009-03-06T21:55:37Z")

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> [@Hazard](#):
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> I’m almost 25… settled down… but it wasn’t long ago that all i thought about was where the next piece was comming from LOL! I could look back and consider myself an asshole for a lot of the things I did. I’ve since moved on… focused on other things… and became a better person.
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> I think there is a point where a guy matures… but it’s NOT between 14 and 22 LOL! Hell - it’s probably more acurately around 28 LMAO! I see nothing wrong with _ **focusing on ass AS LONG AS it doesn’t consume your life.** _
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> guys and girls think different 😃
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> ~Haz~

No, actually I agree wholeheartedly with your post. It’s just that I think he might have crossed the line referenced above. It’s a constant barrage of this stuff, always seeking validation and a shortcut.

Good god, go out, talk to people, find out what works, what doesn’t. get slapped, get a drink thrown on you, get laid, go home. Start again. There are no short cuts to life. Go live it.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/38 "2009-03-06T22:00:31Z")

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> [@Hazard](#):
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> I’m almost 25… settled down… but it wasn’t long ago that all i thought about was where the next piece was comming from LOL! I could look back and consider myself an asshole for a lot of the things I did. I’ve since moved on… focused on other things… and became a better person.
> 
> I think there is a point where a guy matures… but it’s NOT between 14 and 22 LOL! Hell - it’s probably more acurately around 28 LMAO! I see nothing wrong with focusing on ass AS LONG AS it doesn’t consume your life.
> 
> guys and girls think different 😃
> 
> ~Haz~

But the thing is - it turns out that getting a piece of ass is infinitely easier ONCE and even during the transformation to becoming a better person - A person who has/is developing themselves displays their value in an inherently genuine, and therefore powerful, way.

I have always found that I gather the most attention from the ladies is during the periods in my life in which I am striving the hardest to make myself a better person - and I have a fairly short period of experience to talk from.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/39 "2009-03-06T22:02:09Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
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> There are no short cuts to life. Go live it.

Well there are shortcuts… they all just happen to have deadends that you need to backtrack from to get any further

but otherwise I wholeheartedly agree.

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-plan-with-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/26784/40 "2009-03-06T22:08:30Z")

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I’ll say this; you learn from your mistakes (if you’re not hard headed you’ll learn.) That’s it, plain and simple.

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