# My quest for the ultimate social mix

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 19, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891 "2011-10-19T07:58:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hausofpleasure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hausofpleasure](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hausofpleasure)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891/1 "2011-10-19T07:58:13Z")

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First off, some background info on myself. I’m have great inclinations towards being the ultimate smooth talker, being able to deal with anyone in any situation, intoxicating everyone with the drug that is me (: Right now, I have absolutely no problem with guys whose social value is on parity with me or below mine but I lack the confidence to really converse with people whose social value is way above my own. Now most people would instantly prescribe vast quantities of A314 (I dont mean ridiculous amounts, just the basic 2-3 drops) - which I have previously used to great effect however the desired effect is not what I had wanted - it’s sort of turning the tables on them, they don’t exactly have the confidence to talk to me even with buffers in place (alphanol and betanol) and I sense them wanting to flee at the first opportunity. Not exactly an ideal social mix.

What I wanted was for me and everyone else to be able to be comfortable with each other from the moment we met as well as to actually have an instant likability factor. I could break it down into being exuberant and loud and charismatic but I wasn’t looking for that (which i already have) - I was looking for a chemical formulation that would complement as well as enhance the whole social factor.

My exploration into the unknown world of putatives has led me to several key mixes which I would like to share:

Mix #1 (P74+P75)  
Ratios: 100mcg [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) : 15mcg P75

Very noticeable results! Could it be a Eureka moment? Instant Rapport, Instant mirroring from others. If i smiled out of the blue, I got a smile back. It seemed like seeking my approval was paramount. My likability also made me feel very good looking so to speak which only reinforced my confidence. Self effects were also very apparent. Unlimited confidence in both ability to achieve as well as to succeed in social endeavour, whether asking for days off or selling ideas to. 2-3 Sprays seemed to be enough to get optimum results, I didn’t really experiment with higher / lower doses.

Mix #2 (P74+P75+P91+P93)  
Ratios: 50mcg P74: 15mcg P75: 25mcg P91: 20mcg P93

Well, i basically tried to add a little extra zest to a formula already proven to be very successful. The results are only debatable at best. Keep in mind that I had just finished my to-go of Mix #1 and was used to feeling extremely likable and sociable.

Morning of Day 1 on Mix #2:

2 Sprays, didn’t talk much to anyone and nobody really bothered to talk to me either - i felt socially awkward. Breakfast was a quiet affair next to a table of happily chattering people. My ‘friends’ were non responsive and I felt like an unwanted object. I certainly hope this is not the person I am without mones!

Something had to be done if certain depression was to be avoided - I had 2 more sprays about 4 hours after the initial application. Effects were instantaneous - there was more of a Mix #1 effect coming back in, people were reaching out to talk to me, invitations for me to participate in small social ceremonies being proffered, exciting conversations with me being the centre of attention all over again.

Obviously, the addition of the extra sprays brought up the quantities of the P74 and P75 up to the point where it was similiar to Mix #1

Post mortem: It is admittedly hard to actually tell the difference between  
both mixes if i had introduced similar amounts of P74 and P75, with the only difference being the presence of the P91 and P93 molecules in Mix #2.

These molecules didn’t seem to do very much at all, their primary effects being mostly similiar to P74/P75. If they had additional effects I didn’t really recognize it other than that I felt that it made me slightly unapproachable - strange that. I note however that the simplier formulation of P74/P75 is far superior compared to P74/P75/91/93 and is a perfect illustration of how ‘more is not better’ in the context of mones.  
As to why this is so, i am at a complete loss but nonetheless i recommend P74/75, both of which are readily available on the AD site unlike the other far rarer putatives.

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891/2 "2011-10-19T11:34:10Z")

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Try adding some Tac to you p74 p75 mix I find it really helps break down barriers

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**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891/3 "2011-10-19T13:42:41Z")

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[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) at 100mcg?

I have p74 at 10mcg/spray and one to two sprays max works amazingly well for me. It really is charismatic on it’s own.

For the ultimate social mix, nothing beats instant shine + instant openness. Consumer products are made for consumers who are looking for a guerenteed vibe to give off that works 90% of the time.

Thanks for sharing your experiences non the less

God bless

Joe

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**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891/4 "2011-12-08T20:38:36Z")

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891/5 "2011-12-08T21:09:39Z")

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I agree with Ghost about the TAC to the P74, P75 combo and a spray of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) if you can get your hands on it.

I also agree with Joe that 100 mcg is wasteful, but to each his own 🙂. I get great results at around the 10-25 mcg range with P74.

Great reporting though 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hausofpleasure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hausofpleasure](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hausofpleasure)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-quest-for-the-ultimate-social-mix/52891/6 "2011-12-11T18:33:33Z")

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Ha yeah, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)/75 sold out at the Androtics store recently.. just when i’m nearly out..

I’m feeling selfish now, some trade secrets should just be kept secret.
