# My recent experience with a314/ammo

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-a314-ammo/64057 "2015-03-23T13:27:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-a314-ammo/64057/1 "2015-03-23T13:27:35Z")

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Well I have been an esteemed member of this forum many years ago when I was on here all the time.. What prompted me back is revisiting some of the older concoctions that had worked very well for me in the past..

Just last night I went out with 1 spray a314b and 2 sprays ammo single strength.

I had visited a bar/restaurant. My gf and I had once spoken to the bartender who is female and hadn’t seen her in years.

I just settled into a table and when she came by she seemed delighted to welcome us, and remembered us vividly. Now I can’t attribute this to mones.. Just a long time no see but it gets better.

A few minutes later once we settle in I open her with a brief intro.. I say to her wow its been several years.. Are you still working in .. what was it.. marketing.. She told she is now has a FT job and works part time as a bartender.

I forgot her name so I see she has a nametag and I tell her.. Hey its been years and you probably don’t remember out names .. Its time for a reintroduction.. Yes we exchange names, and we’re all now acquainted and I shake her hand, and give her a squeeze on the bicep. . She seems delighted but a tad intimidated by my confidence.. Perhaps because I touched her bicep so early .. Didn’t phase me though, I remained confident and unapologetic about my actions even though my gf then tells me you shouldn’t of done that… Now normally I would feel I messed up and it would effect the rest of my interactions with everyone but not today.. No this is definitely a314 in effect. I stayed confident put my gf back in her place saying no just is fine just perhaps a little intimidated by my signature and confidence as shes young (mid 20’s).

Later on I noticed I got myself into a great conversation with my gf regarding what makes good conversation and how to bond with people.. I’ve been reading up on game and working on it.. We talked and bonded for 15-20 min.. I noticed my voice baser and my posture strong.. My mind was clear and in the moment.. This is definitely a314 again.

Seconds later when my glass was empty the bartender girl comes by again and fills it up.. I tell her how did you know I was done. She replies I have great intuition.. At this point she doesn’t ask my gf if she wants a refil on her coffee. Instead my gf asks.. BTW the bartender continues to refer to me by my name…

Towards the end of the hour when we were done our drinks, the bartender comes over.. I tell her I have some bad news.. That unfortunate time has come for us to part… Yes i’m leaving.. She looked kinda sad.. But then I say “However I will be returning.. I will be coming back”.. I wasn’t paying full attn. to her face however my gf later tells me the bartenders eyes lit up and she looked dreamy when I said that.. I tell the bartender I will probably return on weekends so I’ll see you here on a sat or sun.. She says well I work sun so COME sundays.. She’s inviting me into her schedule here. Clearly she wouldn’t of done this if she was offended by my giving her arm a squeeze earlier.. She was just a tad intimidated then and now more attracted. She takes my card processes it and brings it back to my table.. Usually I used to just pay at the bar.. I leave her a good tip. And we leave before I say another word.. I magically disappear creating an element of mystery.

Well I think my gf’s reaction to the arm squeeze telling me I shouldn’t of done that was HER getting CLINGY with me with a314 on.. She has this he is mine mentality. It just occurred to me she never says things like that o.w.

Now I don’t know how much ammo played in the role. Clearly pure a314 is kinda business and I felt very dominated but relaxed.. I think ammo may of helped. I used only 2 sprays which is like 5 mcg none on a 45 y.o.. Very little to make sexual impact, more sexy status impact.

I like a314, ammo a lot. BTW this bartender is Russian tall 5’10 " and mid twenties.. I’m east indian 5’7" and 45.. Now that is a huge difference in wielding an element of power.. But with a314 I came across as the ideal powerful male even though I am much older and shorter.

I like this mone a lot.. Some says there is fallout.. I will wear it everytime I revisit the bar. I have my gf with me so obviously I didn’t try to pick her up or anything.. but certainly I will continue to work my game on her and my conversation skills. It’s only a win win.

dsouza

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**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-a314-ammo/64057/2 "2015-03-26T12:42:39Z")

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Women respond mainly to two things - touch, and smell.  
They don’t really get worked up by vision or sound the way men do.  
For men the impact of touch and scent is more moderate, but still perceptible.

People, women in particular, will like you more if you make confident physical contact. Just, always proceed first with eye contact, then speaking, the upper arm or upper back touches. The key is to do it without hesitation and with decent timing, as soon as you get the eye contact and her talking to you. Once she’s reciprocating with the arm touches, then you can move on to leading her with the hands and waist. She won’t always go your direction, but as long as you stick to the socially acceptable order of it, it’ll be a big plus.

The subconscious scent cues are doing the rest of the heavy lifting here. Just because cues are not received consciously, does not mean they don’t have strong impact. The things she sees and hears from you are really just reference points for the scent and touch, which are the primary emotional lenses though which the sight and sound are interpreted. Without the scent and touch cues, there isn’t much going on for her, so whatever you say and look like can at best only be a reference point for times she was touched or smelled previously. Someone who looks like her ex-boyfriend would have an advantage in that case. hence the reason women keep going for guys that look the same. Most men get rated extremely low on dating sites… the entire curve is shifted way down - why? Because no scent or touch. Mean while women get over-rated = why? All we need is a cute selfie of her in the bathroom mirror.

This is why when you put on A314, your face looks more masculine in the mirror - your face is the same, but you interpret the situation differently based on an adjusted emotional lens. In that situation, it is the scent cue itself, rather than the mirror image, which is the primary cue - even though it’s a mostly subconscious cue. “It’s not what you say - it’s how you say it.” … similarly, it’s not what you look like, it’s how you look.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-a314-ammo/64057/3 "2015-03-27T00:23:41Z")

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> [@lwatkins](#):
>
> Women respond mainly to two things - touch, and smell.  
> They don’t really get worked up by vision or sound the way men do.  
> For men the impact of touch and scent is more moderate, but still perceptible.
> 
> People, women in particular, will like you more if you make confident physical contact. Just, always proceed first with eye contact, then speaking, the upper arm or upper back touches. The key is to do it without hesitation and with decent timing, as soon as you get the eye contact and her talking to you. Once she’s reciprocating with the arm touches, then you can move on to leading her with the hands and waist. She won’t always go your direction, but as long as you stick to the socially acceptable order of it, it’ll be a big plus.
> 
> The subconscious scent cues are doing the rest of the heavy lifting here. Just because cues are not received consciously, does not mean they don’t have strong impact. The things she sees and hears from you are really just reference points for the scent and touch, which are the primary emotional lenses though which the sight and sound are interpreted. Without the scent and touch cues, there isn’t much going on for her, so whatever you say and look like can at best only be a reference point for times she was touched or smelled previously. Someone who looks like her ex-boyfriend would have an advantage in that case. hence the reason women keep going for guys that look the same. Most men get rated extremely low on dating sites… the entire curve is shifted way down - why? Because no scent or touch. Mean while women get over-rated = why? All we need is a cute selfie of her in the bathroom mirror.
> 
> This is why when you put on A314, your face looks more masculine in the mirror - your face is the same, but you interpret the situation differently based on an adjusted emotional lens. In that situation, it is the scent cue itself, rather than the mirror image, which is the primary cue - even though it’s a mostly subconscious cue. “It’s not what you say - it’s how you say it.” … similarly, it’s not what you look like, it’s how you look.

Ahh tone of voice and facial expressions.. Got it!

This probably explains why when I try to memorize routines too much I screw up. Its because my tone of voice changes when i’m thinking, and my facial expression does too.. my eyes start going side to side looking into my memory banks, and while I may get out the words my voice tone and facial expression probably look like an man whose “not quite in the moment”.

This is why I like to memorize only simple openers or questions, and go from there with conversation. Also [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) which have a great smell and make women more open to being touched eg (a1 products) probably do well seducing women.

Still if women only respond well to smell and touch that doesn’t explain the woman who loves the rich alpha man like the a314 Donald trump man. His looks are power, his tone tough and his smell well nothing special. I guess this is why a314 isn’t the best for seduction though when paired with ammo things change rapidly.

Do YOU think a314 ammo is an appropriate DATING mone? Or still way to business like for dating? WHat has been your experience?

dsouza

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**Author:** ![Alpha360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alpha360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alpha360)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-a314-ammo/64057/4 "2015-03-30T07:08:09Z")

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> [@lwatkins](#):
>
> Women respond mainly to two things - touch, and smell.  
> They don’t really get worked up by vision or sound the way men do.  
> For men the impact of touch and scent is more moderate, but still perceptible.
> 
> People, women in particular, will like you more if you make confident physical contact. Just, always proceed first with eye contact, then speaking, the upper arm or upper back touches. The key is to do it without hesitation and with decent timing, as soon as you get the eye contact and her talking to you. Once she’s reciprocating with the arm touches, then you can move on to leading her with the hands and waist. She won’t always go your direction, but as long as you stick to the socially acceptable order of it, it’ll be a big plus.
> 
> The subconscious scent cues are doing the rest of the heavy lifting here. Just because cues are not received consciously, does not mean they don’t have strong impact. The things she sees and hears from you are really just reference points for the scent and touch, which are the primary emotional lenses though which the sight and sound are interpreted. Without the scent and touch cues, there isn’t much going on for her, so whatever you say and look like can at best only be a reference point for times she was touched or smelled previously. Someone who looks like her ex-boyfriend would have an advantage in that case. hence the reason women keep going for guys that look the same. Most men get rated extremely low on dating sites… the entire curve is shifted way down - why? Because no scent or touch. Mean while women get over-rated = why? All we need is a cute selfie of her in the bathroom mirror.
> 
> This is why when you put on A314, your face looks more masculine in the mirror - your face is the same, but you interpret the situation differently based on an adjusted emotional lens. In that situation, it is the scent cue itself, rather than the mirror image, which is the primary cue - even though it’s a mostly subconscious cue. “It’s not what you say - it’s how you say it.” … similarly, it’s not what you look like, it’s how you look.

While I agree with the scent and touch is important I disagree with the  
“dating sites” part. I have heard friends telling me that after their “little transformation”(self improvement) they got way better rating with just a picture of them on a dating site. I’m sure the visual appearance is also process by girls subconsciously and a guy who is really confident show that in a picture. Thus attracting girls. I have seen picture of them before and after and you can tell the difference just by looking a few seconds.

I’ll have to test A314 + ammo. I didn’t get all that results with just [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) (rev32b)

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-a314-ammo/64057/5 "2015-03-30T10:55:35Z")

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> [@Alpha360](#):
>
> While I agree with the scent and touch is important I disagree with the  
> “dating sites” part. I have heard friends telling me that after their “little transformation”(self improvement) they got way better rating with just a picture of them on a dating site. I’m sure the visual appearance is also process by girls subconsciously and a guy who is really confident show that in a picture. Thus attracting girls. I have seen picture of them before and after and you can tell the difference just by looking a few seconds.
> 
> I’ll have to test A314 + ammo. I didn’t get all that results with just A314 spray (rev32b)

Looks definitely count. Look at couples in a mall and tell me if the girl is a babe the guy is 95% of the time , a stud.

It surely not just smell and touch that was at work.  
dsouza
