# My recent experience with IS AMMO p75 P74 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 27, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-is-ammo-p75-p74/58867 "2013-04-27T23:48:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 11
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-is-ammo-p75-p74/58867/11 "2013-04-29T00:40:28Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I get it , you’re saying basically keep the none low when using p75 if you want to attract women in a public setting. > > Have you considered I am over 35 years of age and may get away with more none than a 20 year old? > > Unfortunately I bought my ammo world in 2x strength that means 5.0 none so I’ve virtually screwed myself up now. I did this because I did not want too much cologne smell from using 2 sprays of 1x strength. (allergies) > > The 10 mcg p75 is great to keep guys at bay like in a competetive setting but where I go its mostly women working at swiss chalet.. My target a portugese woman and the competetion from males there doesn’t exist. I’m wondering if I need to alter my brew.. I’m not in a club with her yet dude. My suggestion stands (more or less). You’ve reached the limits of the consumer line. You need more refinement, but that’s not what they do. You can, actually, spray P75, Shine, and Double AMMO into a TOGO. This is merely a guideline for the ratios: > [@ICM 1a and 1b Night](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1a-and-1b-night/48857): > > Been a while since I posted so here is one night’s adventures: Myself: Mid 40’s, Athletic, Married What: 3 sprays of Steve’s ICM 1a mix (Blue Bottle) 2 sprays of Steves ICM 1b mix (Blue Bottle) Both around upper chest, lower neck, a touch on wrists and back of neck Mrs. BH and I go out for the evening: dinner, music, dancing … you know the drill. We go to one place we hit fairly often where they play live music. The music is good but it tends to be the same although sometimes they do surpr… I wear a custom mix of .75 NONE, 1.75 P75 and 3.75 TAC per spray. I regularly apply this every 4 hours. All the time. Around women, I target 2 sprays, up to 4 as they tolerate. I may eventually add P74. Dilute that AMMO down or mix (not layer) it. Try your target out at 1-2 mcg NONE. Increase this only on a positive response, and do it slowly. This much 75 and NONE, I think, gives you 50% chance of a negative response. Age is not relevant here. The conventional wisdom of NONE dosing changes when you use 75. 5 micros of 75 and 1 of NONE is well-tolerated by all ages with no buffers. However, buffering makes me more approachable. IO is just fine for this, but I’m a growing TAC fan. Next time you order, get some 5 mL of -eRone. e-None, 75, [Molecule C](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) and alphanol. Start brewing your own. You’re an advanced user. It’s time to lose the training wheels, if you forgive the metaphor.😃 Ask or search how women respond to 75 and NONE at these doses. I think you’ll find what I’ve suggested is the most they tolerate **together** unless they are very comfortable with you. You can **ALWAYS put on more NONE, but the only anti-Ghosting/OD antidote is TAC (ASFAIK).** I even think women can more easily wear high amounts of 75 than NONE comfortably, based on limited reporting data. 75 is like a potent androsterone. I don’t think it’s androstArone. I think it’s some sort of reagent-grade -eRone synthesis or something like that. ExperiMone -eNone is different than that in AMMO. I think Experi is reagent grade. Treat 75 like heavy duty Rone. Here’s why: > [@Rough synthesis vs. "perfect" - P88 vs. P93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741): > > P88 vs. P93 - Rough synthesis vs. “perfect” (or what chemists call “standard” synthesis) I think we’ve blind tested the two long enough to reveal this. While the bulk of the chemicals in our P line are absolutely unique structures, sometimes we do have two different synthesis paths of what should technically be “the same” molecule. In this case, P93 and P88 have a very unique relationship. P93 is the absolute laboratory standard, meticulously synthesized in small batches with TLC at every syn… It wouldn’t shock me if P75 was epiandrosterone or an Androstane. I couldn’t offer a better guess with the functional groups, but the male avoidance behavior seems to be there… BTW, this thought just hit me as I wrote this. More research…🆒 --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-recent-experience-with-is-ammo-p75-p74/58867)._