# My Science Minded Hello:) **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 24, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737 "2009-09-24T02:03:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/1 "2009-09-24T02:03:20Z")
Hey everyone!!! My name is Adam, 22, I’m in Fort Worth, TX(Very close to Hurst if it matters). I have had serious anxiety problems around people, limiting me with women in the obvious capacities. I’m here because I’m science minded and I keep reading about [pheromones](https://a314.com/), in this and that article, and don’t see why they wouldn’t work, despite a bad experience with Pherlure about 4 years ago. after coming here and reading about different types I believed some of my axiety while going out (which got worse since taking medicine for it) might be attributed to the pherlure. I tried to od with Pherlure on my chest, and I believe I nearly had a panic attack going out that day. I returned home promptly and while it is very difficult to be (word meaning “not having placebo effect”). I believe the pherlure was involved because my panic didn’t ease up untill I changed clothes. (if so it would mean that its does have an effect but the effect was counter productive in my case) So I figure maybe I can find a combo, or product that would help calm me down(trust), as much or maybe more than it actually attracts women(which wouldn’t hurt either). Don’t go too hard on me, I am pretty much on hiatus from trying to pick women for a little while. I am about 1 year off all axiety medicine and since I stopped trying to pick up women, my symptons have been much much more under control. now who do I talk to about the 25 bucks j/k ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/2 "2009-09-24T02:22:07Z")
Hi there, Welcome to the forum. I tied pherlure but I don’t see any effect from pherlure. I suggest you try Shine, IO and AMMO. Shine will uplift your mood. It boost your confident. People around you will also feel good. IO will make people want to talk to you. It can open up people and you will have more conversations with people. AMMO will attract girls. It is well buffered and can be used everyday. Hope you will see results. With results, I am sure it help to ease your anxiety. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/3 "2009-09-24T02:51:39Z")
Hello Adam, welcome to the forum. A lot of people have anxiety issues when it comes to meeting and engaging with the opposite sex. It’s not funny at all, but it is fairly common, and you’re in good company here. I have yet to see a good review for Pherlure put up by an actual user. So much for that. As for panic attack symptoms, lots of us get headaches, stuffy nose, anxiety and other symptoms on our first and sometimes second uses of any product. Your neurotransmitters were likely temporarily overloaded. They do adjust in a short time. Good things to try are: Ammo - warm, suave, sexy; will make women somewhat aroused and definitely more interested in you. Instant Shine - feel good phero, brightens up the mood and makes people more cheerful and happy [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) - makes you seem more approachable and encourages people to talk. Best of luck! ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/4 "2009-09-24T02:58:43Z")
Sounds like plan A!!! I want to try attraction, comfort stuff first. I’ve been reading reviews and sticky guides, it sounds funny and probably noobish, but I think spaceland would’ve been the best thing for me to get. That getting them talking, or even remotely interested in me is really hard for me. ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/5 "2009-09-24T03:01:42Z")
Hi Ghosthacker Welcome to the forum, You are in good company here so no need to feel like you are going to get flamed or pushed to one side. I remember reading a post of one of the experamones that had a really mellowing affect. I’ll try and find it and point it out to you. Its probably not the best one for you at the moment as you are a newbie (just like me), but I’m going to get it in my next order to see what it does with some mixers that I have already. Your anxiety… can you tell us/me a little more about it? You don’t have to of course as this is an open forum and I’m sure you don’t want to bleed your heart out to the world. If we knew a little more about it though we may be able to give you some recommendations. Things like when it happens and with who or in what situation. As far as mones go… try [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I have this one and it seems to work quite well in give a pick me up sort of way… All the best ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/6 "2009-09-24T03:42:49Z")
Here you are, P78 was the one I was thinking of. Read the first post here. I haven’t used it, but intend to. others will have a better idea of its use. [Pick me up mix ideas?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pick-me-up-mix-ideas/32714) ([Pick me up mix ideas?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pick-me-up-mix-ideas/32714)) Remember medicating for anything like anxiety is really just a bandage. if you don’t know why it’s happening to you, then its most likely to pop its ugly head back up again. things can help you overcome the problem and then it is not an issue anymore and hence the anxiety will fade. there are plenty of tools you can use for this. I could recommend a VERY good totally natural medication for you that has no nasty side affects if you are interested. ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/7 "2009-09-24T04:19:51Z")
Yeah sure, no problem. I’m just afraid of talking so much, so about such trivial things, that everyone stops listening. I actualy live with that guy, and while I want to hate him for that and his other tendancies, I shouldn’t since I am like 2 degrees off being him. Luckily he is moving out soon, so I might loosen up alittle then. Basicly my anxiety happens when I am in a place like a mall, college campus(bad), or ocassionaly a crowed restaurant, and definatly the super market. I’m fine, in the post office, autoparts store, blockbuster, hardware store(even are cute girls working in these places) And then it feels like I’m a kid again and I’ve done somthing that I know I’ll be in trouble over. (like right before you have to call your mother at work to tell them you haven’t turned in any work this week) except like its incalcuably worse. Like I imagine stealing, your parents car at 13 and flipping it on the wrong side of town would feel like. ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/8 "2009-09-24T04:56:24Z")
Awesome, I’m looking it up now, it sounds very interesting. I am interested in that natural medication. The last stuff the docs put me on, was Lithium but, even the slightest events made me very angry, and caused my eye sight to black out because I was so angry. I stopped taking it when the doctors told me to just deal with it, because it would happen while i was driving. It seemed like my blood pressure was spiking (I would get really hot and red, and my head would hurt)but I couldn’t get it to show on any blood pressure machine. ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/9 "2009-09-24T04:59:11Z")
Sounds like anticipation anxiety. But given that you have it in different places (the context of the places are different but the same) it’s hard to pin point exactly why those places. Most of the time, things that have happened to you in the past will course things like this to happen. If you haven’t already, talk to someone that is experienced. Go a bit higher than your doc that gave you the med’s. I know this might sound bad to you, but trust me when I say there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing this. Go and see a physiologist (not the counselor on campus). I would be willing to bet that after only two or three sessions with them you will start to feel like a million bucks!! Print off the post that you have written above and show them this and they will ask you some questions. You will be very surprised how fast thing will turn around for you once you start down this road. Don’t be afraid they don’t judge, they are there to help you. Keep us posted on how you are going. All the best ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/10 "2009-09-24T05:09:10Z")
Thats pretty much the only thing I haven’t tried. The campus couselor sucked, hypnotism was only temporary (placebo effect?). I think the only reason I haven’t tried it, is because I have to be refered by a doctor (I think) for my insurance, and my doctor says he thinks I won’t like it “because they will put me on everything.” that was about 3 months before he put me on lithium. I went back a week later to ask to be taken off of the lithium, and haven’t seen anything more than a dentist since. I’ll see if I can get a appointment on a day he isn’t there. ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/11 "2009-09-24T05:12:32Z")
Have a look at this [http://www.clarocet.com/](http://www.clarocet.com/) ([http://www.clarocet.com/](http://www.clarocet.com/)) It does work very well. Give it 3 to 4 weeks if you do start taking them though. There is an quick release one that will work in as little as half an hour… great if you know you are going to be in a place that might make you anxious… Good luck ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/12 "2009-09-24T05:20:12Z")
Ask your doc to see a clinical psychologist. They won’t put you on pills (simply put, they can’t). Your doc is referring to a Psychiatrist… they will put you on pills. A Psychologist will help you by getting you to do different things and talk about stuff (that could be the hard part). But, if you get the right one, it could actually be fun for you. You will see some big changes pretty quickly. You sound like the sort of guy that doesn’t want to be anxious and is prepared to give things a go, so you are half way there my friend! ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/13 "2009-09-24T05:25:58Z")
Oh, another thing I forgot to say was, you don’t have to be referred… you can just rock on up and ask any one of them for an appointment. I’m not sure how that would work with your insurance however. You may have to pay out of your own pocket without the referral. We have a different system here in NZ so not sure how yours works in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/14 "2009-09-24T05:26:39Z")
Thanks, I didn’t realize there was a difference. If you can PM me the herbal “medicine” even if I don’t end up using it, I like to read about stuff like that and how it works. I’d be a doctor if not for all the patients ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/15 "2009-09-24T05:32:57Z")
My insurance is pretty good, and covers anything I “need”, but a doctor has to say I “need” it. Now that I think of it he said he would refer to one once, but told me it wouldn’t help any more than the campus counselor. Because I am not going to college any more, and thus can’t goto the campus “shrink” he can’t tell me its the same thing anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/16 "2009-09-24T05:50:38Z")
Counselors have their place… but when it comes to things like this, they just don’t cut it. over and out for now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/17 "2009-09-24T05:59:44Z")
thanks again, I’ve never been welcomed so quickly and happily in any other forum. And I’m probably a member of 20-25 ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/18 "2009-09-24T17:57:16Z")
I think I will try Instant Shine, and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). the IH could be really good at opening me up and everything would be great, or that effect could make panic that I’m telling people too much, depending on whether I notice the effect, if it has one. The only thing I am wondering is whether I should go with the Instant Shine because it might make me feel better, or if I should try CTTM2 to try to get them to initiate. That first stage is all I’m trying to get, untill I get used to talking to people more on my own. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/19 "2009-09-24T20:31:29Z")
Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too 🙂. Currently we are in the process of seeking out an additional forum Host or two to help with the upkeep of the forum. With that in mind I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Of course I am available to answer any question you might have regarding mones selection by calling me personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and I will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Ghosthacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ab097/32.png) [@Ghosthacker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghosthacker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-science-minded-hello/32737/20 "2009-09-24T22:11:49Z")
Sounds great, I look forward to ordering soon.