# My stupid newbie tricks **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 2, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369 "2007-11-02T13:33:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/41 "2008-11-19T13:22:25Z")
Thank you Diamond. If it’s any consolation I’ve been here for 14 or 15 months now and I feel the same way when I read guys like Gegogi, Pheroquirk, Nbully, Tacitus,and Visionary among others who have been around 3, 4 or 5 years. There is a ton of great stuff the ladies have written as well, Dolly, Lor, of course Tisha23. If you want to read a great life journey with pheromones do an advanced search of all of Steve’s posts. Line 'em up first to last and just start plowing through, from the time he got here till he started working for Smartmones. Don’t forget Mharris and Jasmin, their posts are loaded with info too. It’s an amazing place. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/42 "2009-02-26T20:15:58Z")
Just wanted to add another amazing link that would be valuable for newbs and masters alike. It’s a well thought out post by Silverscreen. Hope You’ll all take a look. [Positive Passive pheromone effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/positive-passive-pheromone-effect/26514) ---
**Author:** ![Soccerdale](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soccerdale/32/2371_2.png) [@Soccerdale](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Soccerdale)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/43 "2009-05-03T18:57:18Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Careful flamingo, I saw some guys get sick as dogs off of it. We used to call it PJ: 50/50 mix of Everclear and Fruit Drink. > > Bring back memories anyone? Sorry this is so late but I’m a Noob. When I was in HS we used to carve out a watermelon, pour in some Everclear along with other fruit that we cut up and let it sit for a couple of hours – whew.. I think that stuff is illegal now in PA; I don’t understand why. I once had a friend take a shot of Everclear at Senior Week down at the beach – he didn’t last long… 😃 You know, that stuff whitens your teeth and kills brain cells… ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/44 "2009-06-13T11:53:38Z")
@ renny What you wrote about owning the signal was very interesting. Just to be sure I understand this correctly, does this mean that basically ever pheromone like IS or TUTH conveys a different message and if you want this message to work you also have to play the right role? Does this mean that something like TUTH will only work when you get into the right role and play the cool bad guy? Does this mean that if you’re wearing a pheromone which says “bad boy” but your looks and gesture basically say “nice guy” that it won’t work or confuse people? I never thought about that but it would make a lot of sense. But it would also make it much harder for pheromones to work if you have to play somebody you’re not and have to pretend stuff. 😕 Unless of course the pheromones really affect yourself and help you become someone else then it could work but other than that I don’t think I could pretend to be someone else. I don’t think it would work or look genuine. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/45 "2009-06-13T13:50:13Z")
Thanks for asking!!! I think this holds up to my experience better than anything else I put in this old thread. Knowlege of the signal is where your power lies. The shortest way to understand the signal is to be the signal, to own it. Of course that means the easiest mixes to understand will be the ones closest to your natural self. Does it mean you’ll have to “fake it till you make it” with some mixes? Maybe. I’ve done it and it works to some extent. I think a better way is to just be patient and use a mix consistently until a situation arises where you find that congruency. We are never the same person all the time. If we are, perhaps using pheromones gives us a good excuse to break out of the rut. Can you be a nice guy and pull off IJ? Absolutely. The wonderful thing about having the knowlege is being able to use it in unexpected ways. Everybody loves a mystery. Can you understand IJ well enough to do it without exploring your Inner Jerk? IDK. I couldn’t. I see you’ve already been there but I’ll post the link anyway since it’s the natural extension of this discussion. > [@Congruence? What's That?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-whats-that/9805): > > What is congruency? We talk about this alot but do we really do a good job of explaining it to a newbie? Do we really understand what goes into congruency ourselves? I looked up an array of definitions to find one that matched my idea of congruent/congruous/congruence. There is the purely mathematical “congruent figures have the exact same size and shape”. Then there is the more legalizish “Congruence is the degree of match between two codes”. My favorite is “Agreement of character (parameter)”. … You’ll find a variety of answers to this question and a lot of insight from folks who are much more knowlegable than I am. ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/46 "2009-06-13T17:11:23Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Of course that means the easiest mixes to understand will be the ones closest to your natural self. Hi. But how exactly do I find out my own signal and also the signal of the pheromone? This sounds complicated. And finding a pheromone which fits exactly to you seems harder to me than simply trying to play a role which suits the pheromone. But in order to do this you needed a lot of details about a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) and then you could try and create a role around it which fits to the product. Somehow this reminds me of this here: https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ra70O9nps6E?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/47 "2009-09-09T18:46:04Z")
Love this post. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/48 "2009-09-09T21:25:02Z")
Coolio! I’m amazed you even found it! It’s been awhile. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/49 "2009-09-09T22:42:34Z")
Hehe, cool. I feel like I might have gone very far very fast and so I am making sure to slow down and go through the forums, and read as much as I can. This helps reinforce some great ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/50 "2009-09-13T13:41:37Z")
excellent thread. thank you =) ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/51 "2010-04-20T16:41:14Z")
> [@renny](#): > > jm1080, thanks for the great segue into my next stupid newbie trick. I hope it answers your question. > > Looking for HITS. You probably won’t see any hits if you’re looking for them. Maybe the occasional compliment or difference in body language. If you’re lucky a slight change in attitude. Pheromones are not magic potions. That’s a cliche that is punted around this forum a lot. What does it mean? > > Hits are not something you observe, hits are something you make happen. YOU CREATE THEM 😮 !!! jm1080 I’m going to pick on you and I’m going to rep you for letting me 🙂 . > > Nope and you’re not going to. Spraying something else isn’t going to help. I tried that, wasted my pheros. For the record I think CTTM, IO, and IH are nearly the same. I have a lot more experience to gain to tell the difference. > > The incident I referred to in my first post went like this. I had tried IO and IH on previous evenings and just like jm1080 I hadn’t noticed anything major. That evening I go shopping with 3 sprays of cttm. I went up and down the aisles slowly, I smiled at everyone, I looked for hits. Nothing. I went to checkout. Three registers, all of them backed up and waiting for something. There was a couple in the line on my right. Everyone was standing there quiet, bored, annoyed whatever. Somebody came and opened another register two or three people, including the girl from the couple hurried to get in the new line. > Her guy just stood there looking straight ahead, she ended up on my left two lines over. Well she started whispering and motioning for him to follow her. > “Henry, psst Henry” stamps foot “get over here” > Henry was oblivious. Since she was looking past me I saw that some of the other folks thought she was talking to me and were looking at me. > “psst Henry!” > More people looked my way. > “SSSS, HENRY!” > Henry was looking straight ahead. So I just leaned over tapped him on the shoulder and said “Yo, she wants you” and pointed at the girl. > People just started giggling, the lady in front of me says “Oh I thought you were Henry” suddenly everyone is talking to me. “man that was funny” ect. ect. The giggling and talkativeness continued until I checked out and left. > > CTTM started doing just what it says, it lightened the mood and made folks more talkative. IO or IH would’ve done the same thing I think. Had I just stood there and not moved to help poor Henry nothing would have happened. No Hit! > > Well This is getting a little long but I hope it illustrates my point. > > Lesson, don’t look for hits. Wear your pheros and move around and do things and meet people. Say Hi. You’ve been sitting next to a hot girl in class for an hour when it’s over ask to see her notes. Do Something!😃 VERY VERY good read for myself, a newbie. I’ve also noticed by using these, I seem to LOOK for hits and I begin thinking…stop that shit, I’m feeling self conscious dammit! And then no hits, probably because I’m acting like a self-conscious idoit. But the minute I just sat down with my friend to have dinner and talk, people next to me are looking, my waitress is giving me IOI’s, so there. Again Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/52 "2010-05-12T19:37:03Z")
Thank YOU Happy! Pheromones have given me a lot of opportunity to explore myself, take some hard looks at not only who I am but how I project that to the world. I don’t use them much anymore, but I love having the power to do so when I want to! Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![mark2115](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mark2115](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark2115)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/53 "2010-08-03T08:32:57Z")
OK, here is my take on this, i am guy that believes in science and i know there is truth to phormones being effective in attracting females in the animal world, i know we humans are not that different from animals, but honestly, i am very skeptic about the whole thing. i think the effect comes from knowing that you have some kind of an edge over others, which results in confidence, and women are very much attracted to confident guys. I dont think its the phormones. I am not trying to be offensive to anyone, or burst anyone’s bubble, i just have sincere doubts that this stuff works on women. But again, i havent used it, so i might give it a try. I am interested to hear from anyone about an incident (without too much Exaggeration) that actually shows that its the phormones, not the confidence that is causing the positive reaction from women. I read many stories here,in all of them, it seemed like the confidence that was working, not the sprays! Also when you wear this stuff and go out, and start conversations left and right with the ladies, due to the increased confidence (because you think “oh, i am now armed with these phormones so women are going to be more friendly towards me” you approach women more often), therefore some of those attempts are going to result in you getting more phone numbers and getting laid…etc. I dont know!! i really dont. i just find the confidence explanation to make much more sense than just “controlling women brains by scents”, yet again, i could be very wrong! ---
**Author:** ![ClintX2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ClintX2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ClintX2)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/54 "2010-08-03T10:09:47Z")
> [@mark2115](#): > > , > > **i am very skeptic about the whole thing.** > > **I dont think its the phormones.** > > I am interested to hear from anyone about an incident **(without too much Exaggeration)** that actually shows that its the phormones > > I read many stories here,in all of them, **it seemed like the confidence that was working, not the sprays!** Trying to “convince” you with stories would be subjecting myself to a game that I could not win. It seems as if you do have a little interest or else you would not be here. So, why don’t \*\*you post an introduction in the Introductions section \*\*and **you will receive a $25 gift card** that will help you to try out some products for little to nothing. **The consumer line products come with a money back guarantee** so you have nothing to lose. That way you can **experience the products for yourself and decide for yourself**. That will do a whole lot more in the direction of convincing you than any of my stories could. 🙂 Here is a post that outlines what you need to include in your introduction in order to receive your Gift Card: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) Hope to hear about your pheromone adventures soon ClintX2 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/55 "2010-08-06T22:28:30Z")
Mark2115, it’s not about controlling anyone’s brain. It’s about sending a message, a simple signal. Make that one simple signal. It doesn’t work in a vacuum. It takes a whole host of signals and yes that vibe of confidence is important. It’s part of the package. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369.md?page=2)