# Mysterion's mysterious mones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [September 18, 2012, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768 "2012-09-18T09:59:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/21 "2012-10-02T16:46:48Z")

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As I’m slowly but surely getting some reward points I am looking for new products to purchase, tryout & report on.

**Choice** : IG  
**Reason** : I’m a very confident guy who thinks he’s awesome - to an extent that I sometimes find myself looking down on others who’re asking self-explaining questions etc (-\> being cocky a bit). I am young (20) so this may fit me very well and may reduce the intimidating vibe I have. In the end I want to come over as a very powerful guy you can depend on but who is willing to drop anyone who is of no use to him. That fits my personality well.  
Also I’m getting into leadership positions very quick in what ever I do. I’m just taking the control without asking. I am taking the lead of a group, be it social or business, or of online communities. I do not fear work at all but expect the well deserved respect for it.

**Choice** : IShine x2 Strength  
**Reason:** IShine x1 doesn’t seem powerful enough for me to give any great effects. I found that 2 Sprays are OK, but I expected a little more. Trying won’t hurt.

**Choice** : [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) - not decided on mcg yet - please advise  
**Reason:** Seems like an enhanced IShine, does anyone disagree? I would probably buy it instead of IShine x2. Testing on Putatives is needed more.

**Choice** : P79 - not decided on mcg yet - please advise  
**Reason:** General phero effect enhancer? Seems like a must have, an allrounder! We’ll see about the effects, I’ll not use it unless I know how each mone of my current mix works as standalone.

Now your turn…I need recommendations on Putatives and Mx. You know a bit who I am and how I am, and if you miss a detail, ask away. 🙂  
If this post is too far back, you can send me a PM instead of responding here.

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**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/22 "2012-10-02T17:20:06Z")

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> [@Mysterion](#):
>
> As I’m slowly but surely getting some reward points I am looking for new products to purchase, tryout & report on.
> 
> **Choice** : IG  
> **Reason** : I’m a very confident guy who thinks he’s awesome - to an extent that I sometimes find myself looking down on others who’re asking self-explaining questions etc (-\> being cocky a bit). I am young (20) so this may fit me very well and may reduce the intimidating vibe I have. In the end I want to come over as a very powerful guy you can depend on but who is willing to drop anyone who is of no use to him. That fits my personality well.  
> Also I’m getting into leadership positions very quick in what ever I do. I’m just taking the control without asking. I am taking the lead of a group, be it social or business, or of online communities. I do not fear work at all but expect the well deserved respect for it.
> 
> **Choice** : IShine x2 Strength  
> **Reason:** IShine x1 doesn’t seem powerful enough for me to give any great effects. I found that 2 Sprays are OK, but I expected a little more (no noticable improvements from 2 to 3 sprays). Trying won’t hurt.
> 
> **Choice** : P74 - not decided on mcg yet - please advise  
> **Reason:** Seems like an enhanced IShine, does anyone disagree? I would probably buy it instead of IShine x2. Testing on Putatives is needed more.
> 
> **Choice** : P79 - not decided on mcg yet - please advise  
> **Reason:** General phero effect enhancer? Seems like a must have, an allrounder! We’ll see about the effects, I’ll not use it unless I know how each mone of my current mix works as standalone.
> 
> Now your turn…I need recommendations on Putatives and Mx. You know a bit who I am and how I am, and if you miss a detail, ask away. 🙂  
> If this post is too far back, you can send me a PM instead of responding here.

[MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)  
MX297  
MX297  
MX297  
MX297  
MX297  
MX297

This bitch is BOMB son! Part of my personal ICM mix that I said I’d talk about but didin’t yet (I will don’t worry)

Also wanting to test the A1 MX and the CTTM v2 MX packs… so that may be worth looking into

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/23 "2012-10-02T17:42:14Z")

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> [@rohitiyer10](#):
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> MX297  
> MX297  
> MX297  
> MX297  
> MX297  
> MX297  
> MX297
> 
> This bitch is BOMB son! Part of my personal ICM mix that I said I’d talk about but didin’t yet (I will don’t worry)
> 
> Also wanting to test the A1 MX and the CTTM v2 MX packs… so that may be worth looking into

Thanks man, I heard about it (Mx297) - but youve gotta explain more, what mones does it usually harmonize with and what mones does it have a negative effect on?  
What does it generally cause, for what personalities is it good, and so on… Please help 🙂

What should I combine it with (you can see my mones I have right now above) during daygame prowling? 🙂

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**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/24 "2012-10-02T19:05:54Z")

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> [@Mysterion](#):
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> Thanks man, I heard about it (Mx297) - but youve gotta explain more, what mones does it usually harmonize with and what mones does it have a negative effect on?  
> What does it generally cause, for what personalities is it good, and so on… Please help 🙂
> 
> What should I combine it with (you can see my mones I have right now above) during daygame prowling? 🙂

I run it at 2-3 Sprays max. NONE + [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) keep it from giving you a beta vibe. I’m very outgoing and quite socially connected so my hits and results are based off of that. People complain about the beta vibe this mx can give you but I’ve NEVER had that happen to me especially when combined w/ sexual attractants like none and p83.

mx297 lowers the need for p74 and/or tac in combos from what I’ve seen.

Adding in P79 honestly seemed to amplify the social vibe of the mx297 but mainly boost the none/p83’s

I don’t really do prowling or PUA stuff anymore so I’ll leave that judgement to you. But I have the same vibe day or night and am still very very social so I’ll use same mixes whenever and wherever I’m at.

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/25 "2012-10-04T05:40:19Z")

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Date:** October 4th, 2012  
\*\*Mones currently owned: **ISHINE normal; IO normal; Ammo normal; Tuth normal; P83 37.5mcg**

Temperature/Weather: **Cold, Rainy**

Mones applied / Spots:\*\* 3 Sprays IO to the neck\*\*. **2 Spray IShine to Ear and Wrist 1 each, same with Ammo**

Initial self-effect(s):\*\* Feeling talkative, was about to hold a presentation 15 minutes after application so I was a little under stress.

**Potential hits:** Some people near me when I was holding a presentation seemed to be affected by IO.

**Highlight:** /

**Conclusion:** I am still pretty sure that 3 x IO is my sweet spot, but for IShine I wasn’t 100% sure and for Ammo I did not do sweet spot testing yet. I will have to continue with standalone testing. Of course I am also aware that the stress I was under may have diminished the effects.  
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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/26 "2012-10-04T13:16:10Z")

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Mmmmm… gotta get out my [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) again to see what it was doing for me last time… I will check my reports to see what that was doing for me.  
Damn you, rohitiyer!!! You’re building up my curiosity on this MX again!!!

Good reporting, bud!

1Alpha

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/27 "2012-10-05T07:35:11Z")

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Date:** October 5th, 2012  
\*\*Mones currently owned: **ISHINE normal; IO normal; Ammo normal; Tuth normal; P83 37.5mcg**

Temperature/Weather: **Cold, Rainy**

Mones applied / Spots:\*\* 1 Spray Ammo to neck

**Initial self-effect(s):** None

**Potential hits:** None

**Highlight:** /

**Conclusion:** Too low dosage or maybe not the right product for me, as I dont see or feel much difference with 2 sprays either. Gonna test again later.  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/28 "2012-10-08T06:05:37Z")

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Date:** October 8th, 2012  
\*\*Mones currently owned: **ISHINE normal; IO normal; Ammo normal; Tuth normal; P83 37.5mcg**

Temperature/Weather: **Warm, sunny**

Mones applied / Spots:\*\* 2 Spray IShine to neck; 2 Spray IO to wrists; 37.5 mcg P83 to adam’s apple

**Initial self-effect(s):** At ease, relaxed, open to conversations. Reduced approach anxiety. Felt improved self-acceptance.

**Potential hits:** 2 girls in the tram. Looked like 24ish years young.

**Highlight:** /

**Conclusion:** The mone mix seems to be good for self effects, I did not notice many sexual hits but I did not use Ammo today (as I know P83 is kinda sexual/sexy as well and didn’t wannt confuse myself with Ammo when watching the effects).  
So my conclusion is: one or two sprays Ammo are still not wrong in this mix!  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2012, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/29 "2012-10-09T06:38:20Z")

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Date:** October 9th, 2012  
\*\*Mones currently owned: **ISHINE normal; IO normal; Ammo normal; Tuth normal; P83 37.5mcg**

Temperature/Weather: **Warm, sunny**

Mones applied / Spots: **3 Sprays IShine all to the neck; 1 Spray Ammo to the ear; 37.5 mcg P83 to the ear**

Initial self-effect(s):\*\* Feeling good and awake. More present.

**Potential hits:** Sexual: a girl chose a seat next to me in the tram and kept kino-ing. However I was not interested.  
Social: we had really good mood today, all day long. We did laugh a lot. Hits almost all of my class mates near me, except those behind.

**Highlight:** Laugh attack that took some time to recover from 🙂

**Conclusion:** An ‘Okay’ social mix.  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/30 "2012-10-11T06:33:11Z")

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Date:** October 11th, 2012  
\*\*Mones currently owned: **ISHINE normal; IO normal; Ammo normal; Tuth normal; P83 37.5mcg**

Temperature/Weather: **Warm, sunny**

Mones applied / Spots: **3 Sprays IShine all to the neck; 1 Spray Ammo to the ear; 2 Spray P83 to the ear; 2 Sprays IO to the wrists**

Initial self-effect(s):\*\* A bit tired, not motivated (other than before I applied it).

**Potential hits:** None

**Highlight:** /

**Conclusion:** Apparently, the double dose of P83 (75mcg) not only neglected the effect of all other mones on myself as well as others, but also (on myself) reverted the effects so I felt lazy, unhappy, unconfident, non-talkative, unsexy (eh this doesn’t happen to me every day…) and some people seemed to dislike me. There was no ghosting effect though. Still I think may have been a clear OD of P83. All other mones dosages were around sweet spots so there shouldn’t have been problems.  
Need to re-test the same mix

Additional info: At home I washed the mones away and applied 2 IShine and felt better in an instant.  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/31 "2012-10-12T04:01:52Z")

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**Date:** October 12th, 2012  
\*\*Mones currently owned: **ISHINE normal; IO normal; Ammo normal; Tuth normal; P83 37.5mcg**

Temperature/Weather: **Cold, rainy**

Mones applied / Spots: **2 Sprays IShine all to the neck; 1 Spray Ammo to adam’s apple; 37.5mcg P83 to the ear**

Initial self-effect(s):\*\* Who’s that awesome guy in the mirror!? (have that effect every day, but with IShine I just smile warmly while bursting with confidence)

**Potential hits:** Two “black” older women next to me in the tram (not interested),  
Right when I got into my classroom, one of the fellow students talked to me saying “wow you’re happy today”. Yes, was true.

**Highlight:** a cutie ~18ish DIHL. She blushed and looked down when I walked up to her and said “Hey.” Since the tram stopped at my destination station, I had to leave her ;/

**Conclusion:** It’s still my favorite mix. Can’t wait to get IG =) Will use this mix a lot.  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/32 "2012-10-14T00:48:48Z")

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Just placed an order of IG, [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), Mx297, IShine as well as P79 and hoping for a P74 freebie!  
All were in default dosages except IShine - it’s x2. So I should need no more than 1 full spray for my desired effect!

╮(╯▽╰)╭ 98$ worth of reward points and 30$ Gc. ╮(╯▽╰)╭  
Who does not love this company?

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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/33 "2012-10-17T06:03:56Z")

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Date:** October 17th, 2012  
\*\*Mones currently owned: **ISHINE normal; IO normal; Ammo normal; Tuth normal; P83 37.5mcg**

Temperature/Weather: **Cold**

Mones applied / Spots: **2 Sprays IShine to the neck; 1 Spray Ammo to the neck; 37.5mcg P83 to the ear**

Initial self-effect(s):\*\* None

**Potential hits:** None

**Highlight:** /

**Conclusion:** I kinda suspect the 37.5 P83 to be already OD for me. After some time, I did not feel bad (like 2sprays of P83 causes me to be) but rather discouraged and unconcentrated. Also the effects of the other mones seem to have vanished once again…  
Will try this mix again, but not too soon. Don’t worry, I won’t forget =)  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/34 "2012-10-20T07:15:45Z")

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Received my new mones. Today started sweet spot testing for self effects with IG.Didn’t go out. Tried 1, then 2, then 3 sprays.

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Date:** October 20th, 2012  
**pheromones currently owned:** [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (default dosage); [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (default dosage); [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (default dosage) ; Summer Ammo (default dosage) ; [Tuth](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (default dosage); [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 37.5mcg;IG (default dosage); Mx297 (default dosage); P79 (default dosage)\*\*

Temperature/Weather: **Room temperature, cold outside, no rain, no sun**

pheromones applied / Spots: **1 IG to the neck. Later 2nd also to the neck. Later third to wrist.  
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Initial self-effect(s):** 1: Feeling at ease and relaxed. Smiling a bit.  
2: Smiling warmly, a confidence boost of a warm kind, not of an “I am awesome” kind.  
3: No difference from 2 although I felt a little overwhelmed initially after applying the third.

**Potential hits:** /

**Highlight:** Laughing without a reason after 20ish mins after application of the 2nd lol 😃

**Conclusion:** Sweet spot 2? Not sure yet. Have to test more. I usually have a problem with smiling, I can hardly smile naturally. That’s basically why I ordered IShine back then, but it didn’t help so much. IG seems to have the effect I desire, but I’ll call it a day and start from 0 again in half a week.  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/35 "2012-10-24T03:28:55Z")

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Here we go again!  
I’m not going out currently but am using the time to re-sweet spot test myself for self-effects. Today I did it with IShine. Time between applications was ~20 minutes, and I started with 2 sprays, up to 4. Sorry gals not testing mixes currently until going out again!

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Date:** October 24th, 2012  
**pheromones currently owned:** [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (default dosage); [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (default dosage); [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (default dosage) ; Summer Ammo (default dosage) ; [Tuth](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (default dosage); [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 37.5mcg; IG (default dosage); Mx297 (default dosage); P79 (default dosage)\*\*

Temperature/Weather: **Room temperature only - weather was cloudy, not rainy.**

pheromones applied / Spots: **2 x IShine to neck - 1 x IShine to forearm (rubbed) - 1 x IShine to left ear  
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Initial self-effect(s):** 1 had no effect.  
2: Happy! Just happy.  
3: Happier, happiest? Randomly laughing. I felt a warm feeling between chest and tummy 🙂  
4 (first time tried): IHigh, lol. The overwhelming happiness and laughing was completely gone however I felt like I just overdosed a drug 😃 Pretty much chilling and staying calm no matter what. Eyes half closed and I had the feeling that’s hard to describe for me - totally at ease.

**Highlight:** Not sure if IHigh or ILaugh but I love both 😃

**Conclusion:** I know IShine is pretty hard to OD but I think since the happiness effect got reduced by the 4th (which again had another very interesting and not negative effect which I would call IHigh), 2 and 3 are sweet spots, whereas 3 as standalone is better and 2 of IShine is better if mixed with socials like IO (tested it a week ago I believe).  
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**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/36 "2012-10-28T07:11:42Z")

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Date:** October 28th, 2012  
\*\*pheromones currently owned: **[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (default dosage); [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (default dosage); [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (default dosage) ; Summer Ammo (default dosage) ; [Tuth](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (default dosage); [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 37.5mcg; IG (default dosage); Mx297 (default dosage); P79 (default dosage)**

Temperature/Weather: **Room temperature only - sunny weather**

pheromones applied / Spots: **2 x Mx297 neck, 1 x Mx297 forearm. 45 min between each application.  
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Initial self-effect(s):**  
1: had no effect. Disliked the scent.  
2: No-effect.  
3: Feeling dizzy from the scent by now which I do not like at all.

**Highlight:** Kinda obvious there was none xD

**Conclusion:** The scent is wayyyy too sweet. I felt the desire to wash it away all the time. I thought I might give it a shot outside later to see the reactions from others, but no matter where I spray it, this scent would be embarrassing for me. There was absolutely no self-effect other than feeling dizzy @ 3 sprays. I can live with the fact that Mx297 is not good for me…  
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PS: my Skin, at least on forearms, seems to react allergic to Mx297.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/37 "2012-10-29T18:03:00Z")

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Mmmmm… 3x of [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)… THAT’S alot of mone! 🙂 I’ve usually seen mones in the togo’s like these MX’s coming in at @ 12.5 mu of mones, so you had, I’d guess, 37.5 mu of the secret sauce of MX297.

Have you tried to give this MX a go @ 1 spray? Possibly, on your head?

1Alpha

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/38 "2012-10-30T02:40:13Z")

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1Alpha, please re-read 😃 I’ve tried 1, then 2, then 3 sprays - 45 mins between the application, and have described the self effect I had during the application breaks.  
Feel free to suggest how I could express clearer in my reports that it was sweet spot testing where I tested different dosages.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/39 "2012-10-30T16:00:00Z")

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Ohhh… Okkk… Well, I will normally spot test my application with 1 spray and try that on for a several hours, check out self effects mostly. If I’m around others, I’ll just observe and talk. After several hours, put down whatever I saw.

Then, If I’m still testing the same mone on the same day, I will wash off that 1 spray, then, apply 2. Cleaning the palette as it were.

1Alpha

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mysterions-mysterious-mones/56768/40 "2012-11-01T14:02:46Z")

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After weeks of testing Shine as standalone, I have no doubt about these 2 statements being true.

**1)** Obviously the mones, esp. Shine, work better for me if I spray 1x directly below the nose (and 2x around neck) and then inhale deeply. It causes the warm feeling, similar to when I have a crush on somebody near me, for a short time. It’s the feeling I am addicted to 🙂.  
My question: since bacteria decreases the effect faster over time and shortens the durations, is it really a good idea to spray it so close to mouth and nose where so many bacteria are home? D:

**2)** If I apply the mones when I am not so happy, I notice an immediate increase in mood; If I however apply when I am super happy, my mood decreases a bit and then increases over time (initial effect mood-drop for ~90 seconds). This is not necessarily a bad thing, I feel some effect, but the initial effect is not desirable…Maybe it’s just me overexpecting things, altho I have learned to moderate my expectations.

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