# nailed it with p96 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 29, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001 "2009-08-29T06:52:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/1 "2009-08-29T06:52:58Z")
aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahah i just nailed it. freakin nailed it. **p96 not only puts pieces together, it nails them tight too** this one is too good to keep in my journal. earlier i stated p96 puts things together. you like someone? you want to talk to him/her? create something? p96 will do that. it doesn’t stop there though. p96 takes your hard work (you _are_ putting in hard work, right?) and solidifies it for you. 10:30p 2s p96 50mcg 2s taa 20mcg 3s spaceland i was taking the wrong approach earlier. ih instead of spaceland. SEG wasn’t quite at ih stage yet. it dug as deep as it could go, but that wasn’t very far. switched up the lineup tonight. don’t dig deep. dig all over. leave nothing uncovered. then, later on, dig deep. it was supposed to be me, her, and shy guy tonight. shy guy forgot our plans and accepted other plans, and it was too late to cancel, so he went with those plans, leaving me and her. oh crap. there was a 10 minute phase of awkwardness between us. similar to what we experienced when we first started talking in person. we had hung out before but there was always a “third wheel” around to make it not seem so intimate. we weren’t on a date tonight, but there was no third wheel so it seemed like it. brief and casual conversation. weather, class, the like. the comfort phase. get her talking to me and make her comfortable. we walked side by side on the street – first at a safe distance away, later on much closer. then i put on my hard hat, took out my shovel, and started digging. probing phase. get her loaded on spaceland. i just wanted to know everything on her mind, and with a few well worded questions, the answers started flowing. she literally poured her heart out to me. not in a deep ih fashion, like an entire life story, but she covered everything relevant to our friendship. when i asked her about hanging out with the db friend, we were both drunk and while i got the answer i wanted to hear, you can’t always trust a drunk answer. so i asked again tonight, sober, and in a serious manner. same answer, much more explanation behind it. does she like being around him? no. why not? he hits on her, treats her as a gf even though she’s not, etc. the conversation train was not stopping there. she continued on to mention other people (on her own accord, i’m just listening and nodding at this point) and why she didn’t like them. some of these answers surprised me. the guy, ex-db, whom i thought was one of her better friends in the group of “friends”? she doesn’t like him. sheesh. even non-db, she can only “tolerate”; there’s no outreach towards him. i’ll cut the crap here. **she basically said, in a lengthy way, “i’m only comfortable around and like being with you and your friends.”** you know who else says this? my girlfriend. other close friends. SEG has basically reached the comfort level of a girlfriend or close female friend in a matter of 2 to 3 days of p96 exposure. you may have noticed that i didn’t use anything sexual tonight. sure, taa can be a bit sexual, but i didn’t send out that sig. **i shaped her feelings based on words alone**. you know what would have been clutch? some mx292 and flirty kino as she’s talking about enjoying being in my presence, to really heighten the feeling. you know what would have sent the completely wrong signal? some mx292 and flirty kino as she’s talking about enjoying being in my presence, to really heighten the feeling. a single girl i’m working on, a potential gf, these are the right targets for that. SEG? no way. she knows i’m taken; i don’t need to undermine myself by sending the wrong signal. she technically is taken too (strong word of mouth but no actual confirmation) and i don’t need to make her feel uncomfortable with heavy flirting. so i have the comfort sig with p96, the social sig with spaceland, now i worked on the transition sig with taa. taa makes you feel good. heavy doses get touchy feely happy spacey feeling. let’s build on this. say we were talking about how she really enjoyed going out with us last night. anchor words. anchor feelings. what pua might call “time bridges.” **“yeah, wasn’t it _great_ when [name of roommate] did so and so?” “i saw you _laughing_ and _having a fun time_ when i did that _awesome_ dance move.” “looking back on it, we spent pretty much _all night/X hours_ at that bar.”** assuming i did things correctly, she hears our names, she gets happy. associates that good time with us, associates her good feelings with us, etc. no kino. no saturated flirting. mere words. businesses were closing at this point and we still wanted to hang out, so she came back to the house and we turned on the tv. what to watch? one more shot at getting nice feelings in the vibe. the tv is hooked up to a media pc and i pulled up a stand-up comedy segment. some newcomer from comedy central. good clean humor, nothing too sexual, lots of laughs. paired with one well-mixed drink, this did the trick. she took the comfortable recliner and got into a nice position. i sat next to her on the sofa. buzzed from the drink, happy from the comedy, comfortable in the recliner and from the cloud. let’s recap. the first day, she got comfortable and sent me that surprise email. then we became social. then we had fun at the bars, just a little bit of sexuality there for good measure. get the hammer, get the nails, let’s nail these things together. aside from the almost unavoidable awkward phase at the beginning, right off the bat she was comfortable and social. the fun came later. not too much sexuality, but i view that as a good thing. i see her everyday in class and we need to respect each other as friends, not make some stupid mistake and not be able to live with ourselves. **the conclusion** there is no conclusion for p96. i could spend an hour thinking of a solid and well-worded conclusion for p96 and its effects. i’ll use it again when i go out with her the next time and something will happen to boggle my mind and knock her socks off, and the conclusion will be void. that is what has happened so far. p96 gets them comfortable. no, p96 puts pieces together. no, p96 nails those pieces together. you get the drift. **you know what you should get?** **some p96.** ---
**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/2 "2009-08-29T07:11:21Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahah > > i just nailed it. > > freakin nailed it. > > **p96 not only puts pieces together, it nails them tight too** > > this one is too good to keep in my journal. earlier i stated p96 puts things together. you like someone? you want to talk to him/her? create something? p96 will do that. it doesn’t stop there though. p96 takes your hard work (you _are_ putting in hard work, right?) and solidifies it for you. > > 10:30p > 2s p96 50mcg > 2s taa 20mcg > 3s spaceland > > i was taking the wrong approach earlier. ih instead of spaceland. SEG wasn’t quite at ih stage yet. it dug as deep as it could go, but that wasn’t very far. switched up the lineup tonight. don’t dig deep. dig all over. leave nothing uncovered. then, later on, dig deep. > > it was supposed to be me, her, and shy guy tonight. shy guy forgot our plans and accepted other plans, and it was too late to cancel, so he went with those plans, leaving me and her. oh crap. > > there was a 10 minute phase of awkwardness between us. similar to what we experienced when we first started talking in person. we had hung out before but there was always a “third wheel” around to make it not seem so intimate. we weren’t on a date tonight, but there was no third wheel so it seemed like it. > > brief and casual conversation. weather, class, the like. the comfort phase. get her talking to me and make her comfortable. we walked side by side on the street – first at a safe distance away, later on much closer. > > then i put on my hard hat, took out my shovel, and started digging. probing phase. get her loaded on spaceland. i just wanted to know everything on her mind, and with a few well worded questions, the answers started flowing. > > she literally poured her heart out to me. not in a deep ih fashion, like an entire life story, but she covered everything relevant to our friendship. when i asked her about hanging out with the db friend, we were both drunk and while i got the answer i wanted to hear, you can’t always trust a drunk answer. so i asked again tonight, sober, and in a serious manner. same answer, much more explanation behind it. does she like being around him? no. why not? he hits on her, treats her as a gf even though she’s not, etc. the conversation train was not stopping there. she continued on to mention other people (on her own accord, i’m just listening and nodding at this point) and why she didn’t like them. some of these answers surprised me. the guy, ex-db, whom i thought was one of her better friends in the group of “friends”? she doesn’t like him. > > sheesh. > > even non-db, she can only “tolerate”; there’s no outreach towards him. i’ll cut the crap here. **she basically said, in a lengthy way, “i’m only comfortable around and like being with you and your friends.”** > > you know who else says this? my girlfriend. other close friends. SEG has basically reached the comfort level of a girlfriend or close female friend in a matter of 2 to 3 days of p96 exposure. > > you may have noticed that i didn’t use anything sexual tonight. sure, taa can be a bit sexual, but i didn’t send out that sig. **i shaped her feelings based on words alone**. you know what would have been clutch? some mx292 and flirty kino as she’s talking about enjoying being in my presence, to really heighten the feeling. > > you know what would have sent the completely wrong signal? some mx292 and flirty kino as she’s talking about enjoying being in my presence, to really heighten the feeling. > > a single girl i’m working on, a potential gf, these are the right targets for that. SEG? no way. she knows i’m taken; i don’t need to undermine myself by sending the wrong signal. she technically is taken too (strong word of mouth but no actual confirmation) and i don’t need to make her feel uncomfortable with heavy flirting. > > so i have the comfort sig with p96, the social sig with spaceland, now i worked on the transition sig with taa. taa makes you feel good. heavy doses get touchy feely happy spacey feeling. let’s build on this. say we were talking about how she really enjoyed going out with us last night. anchor words. anchor feelings. what pua might call “time bridges.” **“yeah, wasn’t it _great_ when [name of roommate] did so and so?” “i saw you _laughing_ and _having a fun time_ when i did that _awesome_ dance move.” “looking back on it, we spent pretty much _all night/X hours_ at that bar.”** > > assuming i did things correctly, she hears our names, she gets happy. associates that good time with us, associates her good feelings with us, etc. no kino. no saturated flirting. mere words. > > businesses were closing at this point and we still wanted to hang out, so she came back to the house and we turned on the tv. what to watch? one more shot at getting nice feelings in the vibe. the tv is hooked up to a media pc and i pulled up a stand-up comedy segment. some newcomer from comedy central. good clean humor, nothing too sexual, lots of laughs. > > paired with one well-mixed drink, this did the trick. she took the comfortable recliner and got into a nice position. i sat next to her on the sofa. buzzed from the drink, happy from the comedy, comfortable in the recliner and from the cloud. > > let’s recap. the first day, she got comfortable and sent me that surprise email. then we became social. then we had fun at the bars, just a little bit of sexuality there for good measure. get the hammer, get the nails, let’s nail these things together. > > aside from the almost unavoidable awkward phase at the beginning, right off the bat she was comfortable and social. the fun came later. not too much sexuality, but i view that as a good thing. i see her everyday in class and we need to respect each other as friends, not make some stupid mistake and not be able to live with ourselves. > > **the conclusion** > > there is no conclusion for p96. i could spend an hour thinking of a solid and well-worded conclusion for p96 and its effects. i’ll use it again when i go out with her the next time and something will happen to boggle my mind and knock her socks off, and the conclusion will be void. that is what has happened so far. p96 gets them comfortable. no, p96 puts pieces together. no, p96 nails those pieces together. you get the drift. **you know what you should get?** > > **some p96.** As I mentioned in my journal … I think **Instant Chemistry** sums it up nicely 😃 Great report! ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/3 "2009-08-29T11:02:00Z")
Great report. wonder what effects it has on males? ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/4 "2009-08-29T14:27:25Z")
> [@Dancing\_Joker](#): > > As I mentioned in my journal … I think **Instant Chemistry** sums it up nicely 😃 > > Great report! i like instant chemistry. also instant connection. the words are fairly interchangeable, but something about it gives off a “i have a nice bond with this person” vibe. > [@sigil.tech](#): > > Great report. wonder what effects it has on males? i’ve only tested on my buddy, so perhaps there might be some bias there, but he’s always calm, cool, and collected around it. as if he’s ready to build chemistry. in my other p96 report i mention he borrowed my sig, which was p96 and a sexual, and worked it very well. somehow he felt the chemistry/interpersonal vibe from the start and picked up the ball immediately without wasting time. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/5 "2009-08-29T17:15:05Z")
Very nice report. Gonna have to give this one a try soon. ---
**Author:** ![Namaste1001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/namaste1001/32/1222_2.png) [@Namaste1001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Namaste1001)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/6 "2009-08-29T20:44:46Z")
Nice report. It seems to give you the same effects that I have seen with p74 - the social chemistry/connection/comfort. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/7 "2009-08-29T22:00:15Z")
> [@Namaste1001](#): > > Nice report. It seems to give you the same effects that I have seen with p74 - the social chemistry/connection/comfort. you read my mind. this afternoon i had a meeting with her and some other students. decided to use p74 to either find some similarities or build on p96. > [@pheromone fried rice](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-fried-rice/24524/270): > > the evilness comes out 3s p74 @ 30 mcg total small group meeting for class today. roughly an hour of exposure to SEG with other people around, around 30 minutes of “alone time” exposure. (15 min walking to and from the building) i actually think i may have od here. maybe it was too much of an initial shock or change for her. good rapport while walking to the building. i could see the tension in her, and a bystander could cut it with a butter knife. it was thick. of the 15 minutes walking to … pretty good test day. my next test is to combine the two. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/8 "2009-08-29T22:14:10Z")
So, the bonding thing… Would you say its like it gives the other person a deep sense of having known you or knowing you? I am highly interested in this one. > [@jayarea](#): > > you read my mind. this afternoon i had a meeting with her and some other students. decided to use p74 to either find some similarities or build on p96. > > [pheromone fried rice - #270 by jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-fried-rice/24524/270) > > pretty good test day. my next test is to combine the two. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/9 "2009-08-30T14:24:50Z")
this probably is not healthy, but for the second time in three days, i’m extremely hungover. went to bed at 6a, up now for some reason. eyes are closing as i type this so i’ll recap later. **however…** p96 put the pieces together, nailed them tight, and finally my buddy picked up my sig and made things happen. 2s p96 @ 50 mcg 1s p74 @ 10 mcg 1s surprise shot of mx301 to make the magic happen SEG is asleep next to my buddy right now. the SEG that i met/“met” on tuesday. the one that has basically been covered by p96 this whole week since tuesday. the one who willingly and almost forcefully made her way into my buddy’s bed after only (technically) two times of hanging out with him. yeah, that SEG. i won’t lie or sugar coat it. did i do most of the work? yeah. if this guy wasn’t my buddy, would he just be some chump stealing my sig? yeah. but he’s not. he’s my buddy. he used to like SEG. didn’t anymore after he found out/“found out” she has a bf. she made it very clear to me last night she does not have a bf. after finding that out, instead of turning my swagger up to 11, i blew it off the scale. hit after hit after hit, and when SEG thought i didn’t have any more tricks, out comes the mx301. author’s note: had it been me, i would have stuck with p96. but it wasn’t me, or even for me. my buddy needed some kick. mx301 (actually the first thing i grabbed, lucked out there), ammo, something like that or else he would’ve spent the night alone. this is the kid who barely talks to SEG, has only been around her a handful of times, and does not even have her number. the kid gets some good reviews from the bedroom but needs some help getting to that stage. ok i can’t even see straight right now. i gotta go get some sleep, then later on some food, then i’ll come back and give you guys a full report. sigil.tech, i thought about what you posted last night regarding the bonding thing. i had a nice response ready to go but then magic happened and now i can keep it short: (i’ll touch on and clarify this later) **SEG, who previously had little experience with my buddy, willingly chose to be with him last night after close to a week of exposure to p96.** good night guys. sleep, food, back to report. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/10 "2009-08-30T19:55:57Z")
didn’t get any sleep, still can’t eat. in the famous words of bill o’reilly, fuck it, let’s do this live. > [@sigil.tech](#): > > So, the bonding thing… Would you say its like it gives the other person a deep sense of having known you or knowing you? > > I am highly interested in this one. the conclusion posted above is fairly accurate. allow me to explain. (and this is assuming you were referring to p96’s bonding, not p74) you can almost relate it to fashion photography. maybe you get a new model on the scene, or one you haven’t worked with before, whatever, there’s that period of feeling each other out, learning new styles, seeing what works. after that period, you bond. model walks in, both of you are good to go off the bat. p96 basically speeds up or eliminates the process of feeling each other out. i say “speeds up” because as walking proof, my buddy went from being too shy to talk to her in class to bedding her within a few days. he’s good looking and carries himself well so i believe if he did this out of his own accord, he still would have succeeded, just a few weeks or maybe months later. i worked the hell out of p96 for him and then flipped my sig over. additionally, he put in his hard work too and sped up his own feeling out phase. i say “eliminates” because in a sense, the feeling out phase is gone. imagine a good friend you have, or maybe even a family member, someone close. you might learn something new about that person each day, no matter how lengthy your relationship is. and you’re comfortable with learning new things. p96 creates this feeling. say i use sarcasm around SEG and she doesn’t like it. she’s comfortable and close enough to tell me so instead of having this trial and error period. it doesn’t stop there though. there’s such a strong bond that i know she doesn’t like sarcasm, so i wouldn’t use it in the first place. that made sense in my hungover head. our rapport from the beginning was very good. when we do/did learn new things about each other, it was like close friends having a serious chat and uncovering new things, or the like. my testing is biased both in a good and bad way, in that i’ve only used it around one person. hopefully some other p96 guys can chime in with their reports. snoopy? **report from last night** 2s p96 @ 50 mcg 1s p74 @ 10 mcg **i forgot to mention this earlier: 3s spaceland** hair 9:45p SEG came over from pregame. the sig may have actually started here, not later in the night as previously thought. good vibes. noticed she was standing progressively closer to me. it hurt to do so, but i had to show neutral body language so that my buddy would have a clean slate. flirting, swagger, social, and status were up high though. my mistake last night was spraying in my hair. i should know better. crowded club environments where people lean in to talk, stuff goes on the neck. bugaboo. lots of leaning in from SEG, don’t know if the mix penetrated her as much as it could have. on the other hand, my buddy penetrated SEG, so i guess things worked out ok. SEG got _drunk_. we had a bright idea of racing with our drinks, so after one she was done. here is where i thought the sig flip happened. she got touchy feely and wanted to dance. at first she danced with both of us. it soon became evident i was being more of a detriment than a help, so i slowly eased my way out of the dance circle. my buddy needed some prodding but eventually he closed up the circle so it was just him and her. occasionally he turned to me and said her hand and lips were wandering. good news. this continued all night. no more drinks for any of us. SEG is a smaller girl so she rode her wastedness all night. my buddy and i started to sober up, but we had fun anyway. while bar hopping, my buddy and SEG held hands. a few times i jokingly nudged her into him and she just stuck there in his arms. good news. interesting change of pace here. we wanted to cab it back to the house, but it was near closing time on a saturday and the cab companies i called estimated at least a 3 hour wait. we flagged down one cab that had some riders who were willing to share, but there was only one open seat. it became like that riddle of a person with a fox, sheep, and chicken, all needing to cross the river and only the person and one other animal can fit on the boat at a time. logistics. i man up so my buddy can get his man up. i get in the cab and tell SEG and my buddy that i’ll be back for them with a car. what did this accomplish? it’s a 10 minute ride back to the house, 15 in late night bar traffic, 20 with needing to get the other people dropped off too. 20 minutes of my buddy being alone with SEG. when i left them, they were getting cozy. unfortunately, things did not play out like we think it would. i was expecting some hardcore makeout session or other things to do when a “third wheel” (me) isn’t around. SEG, in her still drunk state (drunk all night from a few free shots and one drink. i would enjoy that; instead, it’s like $20 to get me even buzzed) got thrown off by the lack of my presence. i don’t think this was phero related, but it was still comfort related. as cozy as she was with my buddy, she enjoyed being able to playfully neg him and hang out with me for a bit. plus, i bring the fun wherever i go. there’s also the safety blanket feeling of being with two guys, both bigger than her. more importantly, my buddy is still too shy. i thought they would be liplocked. SEG probably thought they were going to be liplocked. i’m sure my buddy wanted to be liplocked and had good intentions of making it happen, but no actions to back it up. from what they said on the car ride home, they sat around at an outdoor bar and people watched until i returned. they’re good people and probably wouldn’t go have freaky sex and then lie about it to me, but this was unbelievable for a while. more depressing social logistics on the way back. the only guy up and sober at that time has a 2-door sports car. i planned to sit shotgun while the couple sat in the back. i forgot to take into account SEG’s skirt. not entirely proper to flash everyone while squeezing in behind the seat, plus it’s general good manners to offer the passenger seat in a 2-door to the girl, regardless of dress. i ended up sitting in back with my buddy. this wouldn’t have been terribly bad, but my buddy got in on the “wrong” side so when SEG turned her head, she would see me and not him. she had to completely turn around to see him. in a 4-door, my buddy could just lean forward and be right at her face, but that’s hard to do in a cramped sports car. i tried my best to shape the conversation so that everyone was involved. but enough depressing stuff. let’s get back to the fun stuff. we got dropped off and continued the party at the house. the other roommate returned from hanging out with his other buddies and joined in. this afterparty is the reason my head wants to explode right now. shot after shot after shot, chased with a drink, rinse and repeat. SEG threw back a few shots too, not bad considering her state. i actually very surprised my buddy was able to function after all that drinking. when i’m with sarah, i always have to watch my drinking (as she, hers) so that we can both perform later in the night. SEG got less touchy feely since we weren’t in a club environment anymore. as a tradeoff, she got more talkative. a-nol spaceland blabber. partly because of the drinking, partly because she’s comfortable with us and can say whatever. **it was time to move.** 1s mx301 neck (ha! learned quick) and then i turned up my game like i’ve never turned it up before. kino, flirting, playful negs, sexual undertones in _everything_, etc. stuff reserved for use around sarah. SEG oozed at this. melted. the butter in which you dip lobster – silky smooth and free flowing. so much so, in fact, that she started getting on me. **for all the newbies reading this, here is where you wake up and start paying attention. very important tip here:** my buddy rocked my sig all night. comfort, social, flirting, status. i started it, built it up, handed it off and let him run with it. **but then i left the room/environment. applied pheros. came back and stayed very congruent with my new sig.** BOOM. sig _ **immediately** _ flips back to me. as you will read later, nothing i did could get the sig back to my buddy. mx301 was all mine. the wetness that surprisingly didn’t soak through her skirt? all for me. hair flips, footsies under the table, all under my command. she even grinded on me and had some suggestive hand movements. my buddy actually looked lonely and shocked. he knows i’m not trying to steal her, he knows it’s a shoe-in for him at this point, yet his target is grinding hard on someone else. i’m sure we’ve all read the newbie tip that says if someone jacks your sig, leave, reapply if needed, come back, turn your swagger up. luckily i’ve never needed to do this so i have no practice with it. then i saw it happening **right before my eyes, to me.** it was natural too; i wasn’t even trying to reestablish a lost sig. had i actually needed to and put in more work, who knows what might have happened. if you lose your sig or someone jacks it, _ **leave** _, _ **reapply if needed** _, _ **come back** _, _ **turn your swagger up** _, and _ **enjoy the results** _. yes, i just said the same thing in the paragraph above. it bears repeating, especially to the doubters or newcomers. this is well grounded knowledge around here, for good reason. it got to the point where nothing i did worked in favor for my buddy. the more i pushed, the more SEG wanted to come back. she was primed now. the last sober ride is gone, the couch is open but lonely, and there are two potential warm bodies to be by for the night. she was choosing me. author’s note: i think sometimes she either forgets or ignores the fact i have a gf. no. that’s not how it works. i finally resorted to the last plan of attack: pull her aside and manually configure her feelings. we turned the music up just a bit and went into the living room. i sat her down good and proper and basically drilled into her head “hey, my buddy likes you. he _reeeeeally_ likes you. there is a stack of condoms in his room and his bed is nice and big and did i also mention he really _'likes_’ you?” she did not go down easy either (though she did later 🆒). she came with her own arguments. the sig was too me, and her brain was too wired; it took a lot to undermine the pheros and reprogram her mindset. she just didn’t want to “leave me.” she asked why my buddy never advanced, made moves, talked to her, etc. here’s a hard task: convince a girl, who is currently all over your nuts and could be naked in your bed upon command, that _someone else_ has feelings for her, when all along it was _you_ doing the relationship building and _you_ sending out the sigs. now that i think about this again, i don’t think i actually succeeded. i think the lateness of the night, the alcohol, the fire in her crotch needing to be tended, all that rolled into a big mess and she just gave up trying to get to me. i hate thinking about it as “settling” for my buddy, but really that’s what it comes out to be. i’m the one with the sig and the bulk of the flirting, yet she has to get with the guy without the (new) sig and is too shy to flirt. we leave the living room and return to the party. i think my buddy knew what i did. my memory starts to get fuzzy here but she found some way to get back to flirting with him, and then they somehow made their way to his room. not in a “let’s fuck” way, more of a “let me check out what you have in your room” way. very casual. when i said she willingly went with him, i meant this, though mentally and emotionally she might have been confused. lights off, music off, everyone goes to bed. **conclusion** - usually i’m pretty good with sig flipping. this time, i bit off more than i could chew. be careful with sig flipping. be careful with sig flipping around people you don’t know too well. - pheros are pheros, but people are people and nature wins if you let it. while checking out his room, maybe SEG held hands with my buddy. maybe that turned into a kiss, which turned into a mattress firmness test. who knows. even though my buddy didn’t rock my sig, primal desires still were in effect. there was a dark room, a cozy bed, and two people flirting with each other. magic happens. - in an earlier report i stated that i can’t conclude with p96, or p96 and SEG. it always finds a way to surprise me. that’s exactly what it did. one thing that i can conclude is that the more time you spend with p96, the better it works for you. it’s definitely a long term investment thing. - mx301. - yep. mx301 is its own conclusion. it works. use it. bring protection. - app points are important. key them in to the environment and target. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/11 "2009-08-31T09:28:09Z")
Awesome report. Get some sleep. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/12 "2009-08-31T12:31:32Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > **app points are important**. key them in to the environment and target. Serious report! 😉 Can we get those? ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/13 "2009-08-31T12:34:12Z")
Great report but one question what is SEG? ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/14 "2009-08-31T13:47:01Z")
> [@sigil.tech](#): > > Awesome report. Get some sleep. thanks everyone. super quick shotgun answers before class. > [@M\_M](#): > > Serious report! 😉 > > Can we get those? app points for me? it was all in my hair, which i figured was not as good as possible because there was a lot of leaning in. the neck would have been a better place. > [@denec](#): > > Great report but one question what is SEG? SEG = surprise email girl, the name i’ve given the female protagonist of these tests. our friendship started out by her sending me a surprise email. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/15 "2009-09-01T21:54:38Z")
one more p96 test and wrapping up the SEG saga here: [pheromone fried rice - #277 by jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-fried-rice/24524/277) ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nailed-it-with-p96/32001/16 "2010-10-10T09:03:55Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > i’m sure we’ve all read the newbie tip that says if someone jacks your sig, leave, reapply if needed, come back, turn your swagger up. luckily i’ve never needed to do this so i have no practice with it. then i saw it happening **right before my eyes, to me.** it was natural too; i wasn’t even trying to reestablish a lost sig. had i actually needed to and put in more work, who knows what might have happened. > . newbies need to read this!