# need a little help

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-little-help/33610>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 26, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-little-help/33610 "2009-10-26T20:26:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-little-help/33610/1 "2009-10-26T20:26:04Z")

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I was hoping someone out there can answer this question for me:

from what i have read I’ve learned that pheromones have a sub conscience effect on people, now that being true if i am in a crowded place like a bar or a club with a lot of different smells does one have to use more pheromones in order for it to be effective? or even though there are a lot of other scents around the pheromones still have the same effect on the sub conscience. I already know that even the “unscented” [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) have a musky odor to them so i guess I’m wondering if its the actual scent of the pheromone that makes it effective, like does the target have to notice the smell in order for it to work? Please let me know what you think thanks guys.

Jake

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**Author:** ![ousongwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ousongwriter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ousongwriter)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-little-help/33610/2 "2009-10-27T22:34:03Z")

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the answer to this question is: yes and no. Scent is unique among the senses and a smell whether pheromone infused or not can elicit an emotional and/or physical response. Pure [pheromones](https://a314.com/) (as I understand them) do have a rather unappealling odor but can still evoke a positive result. They are detected by the same Olefactory glands as scents are but are not processed in the same way.While in ‘the club’ you will have to apply more…the amount is determined by your unique body chemistry (I normally apply between 50-100% more product in large crowds.)All that being said…the best advice I can give is to get out there and start testing…that’s the best method of gauging appopriate dosage.