# Need a Pro's Advise!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 7, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118 "2011-07-07T02:37:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/21 "2011-07-07T14:46:01Z")

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> She hasn’t put him firmly in the friends box yet

Uh, yeah, she did, Tish:

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> So Finally it happen and she says “I **only** think of you as a Good friend I can trust”

(Emphasis mine)  
It doesn’t get much plainer than that.

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> Not sure why people jumped to the conclusion you want to hurt this person.

I don’t think anybody did. I think they took the “I’m hurting, I’m not ready for a relationship” comment that THE GUY SAYS SHE MADE, and worked with that. And I don’t see how that has anything to do with the people who posted the advice pertaining to that.

I too think he has handled things well. But that still doesn’t argue that Astrea and Radman aren’t right and that he has, after being checked out and gotten to know, been found to be “not LTR material” for THIS PARTICULAR woman with a child. And he should be prepared for that. She may not be running back to him, she may just be, as was said, bored and looking for someone to hang out with for awhile.

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**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/22 "2011-07-07T14:56:18Z")

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No disrespect to any single mothers out there but, why does it seem that people are assuming being a single mom makes someone a great person. Plenty of single mothers have put their own desires ahead of their children.

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/23 "2011-07-07T15:01:31Z")

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Nobody said they were all great, either.

Look, guys, you’re missing the point here.

What was said was that, since they already went the bf/gf route for a time, and then she broke up with him, and avoided him until such time as he stopped asking her out, chances are he didn’t fit her preconceived notions of what constituted a LTR. Period. Whether bc of the child (and frankly the fact she HAD the child says a lot to what came before unless she’s a welfare mom), or some other reason. Now, having allowed some time in between, she’s coming back with a “let’s do something,” and chances are it’s an, “I’m bored, who can I trust to hang with” thing.

Not saying mones won’t help. Not saying she may not have changed her mind on the relationship. Just saying don’t get your hopes up too much.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/24 "2011-07-07T15:20:10Z")

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You’re right, for all anyone knows she could have broke it off because he was too nice and not “bad boy” enough for her. In which case he could use instant jerk to rev her engine and get her back. But just because a thing can be done doesn’t make it the thing to do.  
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I wasn’t implying the girl is a saint or even a good mother…I have no way of knowing that. But even if she’s a horrible mom it doesn’t change the fact that a child is a factor and kids cost money, time and responsibility  
Are you suggesting that if she’s the type that parties too much and neglects the child that its ok to eliminate the child’s needs as q factor in whether or not he pursues this?

If she’s a good mom that’s looking out for her kids best interest then the earlier advice stands…  
Logical conclusion to that is that if she’s a bad mom that doesn’t care about the kid then go for it.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/25 "2011-07-07T17:08:09Z")

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> josef & Blacky Chan- Let me be clear, Im not looking for a easy lay. I can care less about fucking, yes i know I can maybe find someone else, I just want to know what phero to wear when Im with her.
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> Astrea-again, sex not important. 2, I knew before I talk to her that she had a kid, was I willing to be a daddy if things got farther, YES. If i wasn’t, I would not waste my time, effort or money. Don’t think I was complicating a single mother’s life, she smart enough and been with enough dumbass to know what is up! again she the one who asking me to hang out with her again, I do respect her decision, and I wont push the subject, I just want to know what phero to use…

In my view, josef and Astrea are both right. You have to show her you are busy and have options. Sure she is a single mother, but you are a single guy. She also doesn’t want someone who is hanging all over her too.

Use lots of IO, lots of Ishine and a little [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or TUTH.  
3-4 IO  
3-4 Ishine  
EITHER Ammo or TUTH (but not both)  
1-2 Ammo or  
1 TUTH

Have fun, be happy.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/26 "2011-07-07T22:54:30Z")

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> Uh, yeah, she did, Tish:

I dont agree that she has, If she starts hanging around with him like he is one of the “girls” then she has put him in the box. When people are scared or unsure they often say things they dont mean. Until she acts on it and actually hangs around with him like two “just friends” would he is not firmly in that box and he should not let her put him in it. He clearly posted he is not going to push her and just wanted mone advice. I think its its premature for him to just move on without giving her a chance to become comfortable.

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> too think he has handled things well. But that still doesn’t argue that Astrea and Radman aren’t right

I assume this was addressed at me since you quoted me. Where exactly do I even mention RAD or Astrea ?

Most people know by now that if I have something to say about a person or about there comment I will come right out and say it. I said “people” because its was the general vibe I felt from all the posts accumulated before I replied not just one persons post.

The guy asked for mone advice, I gave him mone advice. Misein asked a question and I responded. If you or the two people you mentioned have a problem with my posts its very simple… Dont read them, but I have had just about enough of people assuming everything I say is about them somehow.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/27 "2011-07-07T23:02:04Z")

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Tisha, you know I love ya. I really do. But you’re doing what you say you don’t want people to do.

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> So far I think the advice given (except for the pheromone advice) is more about the people giving it then it is about your situation.

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> I have had just about enough of people assuming everything I say is about them somehow.

I just want you to be congruent. 😉

I do think that he needs to give her another chance and see where this leads, yes. I agree with you on that. But I also agree with the aforementioned folks that so far the track record for that happening hasn’t been good.

_HUG_

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**Author:** ![altoplayer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/altoplayer/32/1313_2.png) [@altoplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/altoplayer)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/28 "2011-07-07T23:51:54Z")

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OK OK OK, lets stop this people! lol

Really, really THANK YOU, for everyone comments!

I will consider them all. You guys got me thinking alot.

Lets end the Tread here shall we?

bump, end! 😛

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/29 "2011-07-08T04:48:11Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Thus the words “I think” before the statement 🙄 (snort)

Really? You DID?

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/30 "2011-07-09T01:08:10Z")

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Tisha and Boudicca, you ladies need to settle any disagreements in a way that is appropriate for two ladies of your obvious maturity (no age joke intended) class and sophistication.  
\*\*_hands each a pillow and goes to sit on a recliner with a bowl of popcorn_  
\*\*Ok…proceed

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**Author:** ![slingblade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@slingblade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slingblade)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-pros-advise/51118/31 "2011-07-09T04:51:37Z")

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> [@josef](#):
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> ignoring her will do more right now than any pheromone product. making sure that she sees you in the company of another lady (totally coincidentally of course) will fan any flames. don’t call her or send any sms. next time she sends you a message just blow her off, if she persists just tell her you’ve been busy.
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> you’ll either get laid or you’ll get rid of a time waster. either way it’s a win for you.

Josef has nailed this one. This is how a guy ought to handle this type of girl.

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