# need a quick question answered before I go... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 24, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934 "2008-10-24T22:54:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Manjushri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c67d28/32.png) [@Manjushri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Manjushri)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/1 "2008-10-24T22:54:42Z")
I’m male 18, About How much ammo would I OD at? I have the to go version and I just gave about 3 sprays. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/2 "2008-10-24T22:57:58Z")
Its different for everyone. You should start with 1 spray and work up but most users use 2 to 3 sprays of it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/3 "2008-10-24T23:02:05Z")
hmmm… that’s a bit much. But, OK, 3 to-go sprays = about 2.5 regular sprays which is still a bit much. You’re going out? Manjushri, it might turn out fine, even excellently, all I’m saying is you put a bit much on for a newbie and as an 18 year old. An OD is a contextual thing as well - what some people might recoil at, others might not, and it is possible that your natural personality and phero-sig might allow you to wear so much -none. Well just go out there with a smile on your face and be a cool guy… be aware that you are projecting quite a heavy phero-vibe and make sure that guys and girls alike know that you are a friendly individual who is cooperative and raises people’s spirits by being with them. You wouldn’t happen to have any [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) on you would you? A couple of sprays of that added to your sig might be a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Manjushri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c67d28/32.png) [@Manjushri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Manjushri)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/4 "2008-10-24T23:17:48Z")
I have instant shine and instant openness, should I buffer some more? I have one spray of each right now edit : can I just wash it off with some soap and a rag? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/5 "2008-10-24T23:25:41Z")
OK… seeing as [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a buffered product in itself you might well be OK with that. But many girls your own age might not respond well to all the -none and could be scared off by it. OTOH if you get any IOIs off older women then you’ll know why! I guess you could wash some of it off if you can manage that. Like about half of it if you could wash half the area of application. It depends - how experimental are you feeling tonight, Manjushri, or is this a mission-critical outing on which, say, you’d really like to impress one or more girls in particular? ---
**Author:** ![Manjushri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c67d28/32.png) [@Manjushri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Manjushri)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/6 "2008-10-24T23:30:12Z")
heh! It’s a general social outing, there will be medium amount (20-30) people, we’re just going to play some games, go bowling… I just want to have a general presence with ladies. No mission impossible lol : ). Let me tell you my combo so far-- Ammo to go to neck chest and wrist [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to wrist and neck Instant Shine to stomach? You think I should go for wash? I don’t want to be really intimidating, just some edge would be good edit: I’ll be wearing a hoodie if that make a difference ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/7 "2008-10-24T23:39:37Z")
umm… I’m a bit reluctant to say to wash off any precious pheros without you getting a chance to see their effects. I would say, go for it with your 3 sprays of Ammo, and additional pure social pheros, be aware that you have a great power/responsibility and just act cool… if you don’t get the effects you want you can cut down next time. Call it the newb phero-baptism, LOL. You never know, it could be just the dosage for you. It is often advised that younger guys wear less… but of course people’s mileage often varies considerably - and some dudes your ages can wear quite a bit of -none and get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/8 "2008-10-25T00:29:24Z")
A to-go spray is about 5/6 ths of a regular spray, so you are at 2.5 or perhaps a bit less (I find that the first spray from a to-go is always a “short” spray.) Your Ammo is in drydown, so at this moment (if you don’t reapply) you are giving off the most Ammo-per-minute that you will all evening long. If you were a guy who already produced a lot of -none, there’s a good chance you wouldn’t have a high interest in [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) to begin with. So, I suspect that a “little too much” Ammo will give you that “almost but not quite jerk” alpha vibe that you seem comfortable with anyway. And as the evening progresses, the -none will mellow and die down anyway. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/9 "2008-10-25T12:32:01Z")
I’m a little older than you and I’m always swaying between whether 2 sprays or 3 sprays is my sweet spot for ammo. I don’t think you will get any negative reactiosn at 3 sprays but you may get less hits than you would at 2 sprays. Sweet spot isn’t really the line in the sand just before you cross and go in to OD territory there seems to be a patch between sweet spot and OD where you don’t get negative reactions or anywhere near as many possitive. ---
**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/10 "2008-10-25T14:22:08Z")
Im 19 and 2 sprays is enough for me. Twos sprays for me is like hes cool and sexy, 3 sprays and its like girls are thinking why is he all over girls what a man slut lol ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-quick-question-answered-before-i-go/21934/11 "2008-10-25T15:39:33Z")
With 3 sprays theres still attraction but you loose approachableness and may start to agrivate a few people.