# Need a second opinion. . . . **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 27, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-second-opinion/35777 "2010-01-27T21:24:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chuck258456](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@chuck258456](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chuck258456)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-second-opinion/35777/1 "2010-01-27T21:24:00Z")
Hello everyone long time no see, haven’t been on in a while, in fact, I think the last time I logged in was 2 or 3 months ago, the topics I posted then, I didn’t have a job yet, so no way to try this whole [Pheromone](https://a314.com/) thing out. I think however, I’m ready to take the plunge. In my second thread I created, someone suggested that Ammo would be a good product for me to use, and I’ve been looking on the forums for a while and I think I would have to agree, as it’s only recommended that you use TUTH if the person your ‘targetting’ is ready to go that far and it can make you appear like your coming on to strong. I don’t wanna do this to my ‘target’, heh. Anyway, while I’ve been prowling the forums, I have noticed that Ammo has been out of stock for quite some time, seeing as how I’m ready I think to try out this whole Phero thing, I don’t want to wait for Ammo to get back in stock, (again, it appears to have been out for a while). I was searching around and found this thread: > [@substitute for ammo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/substitute-for-ammo/35533): > > since ammo is currently unavailable,whats the best substitute for attracting non-asians?:smiley: Would the Experimone combination mentioned in that thread actually give the same effect as Ammo . . . in your opinion, I’m not trying to discredit the guy, I just want to make sure before I go and spend the money on them. I do also have another question, the packaging that these come in, what do they normally look like? I still live with my parents, so I don’t want a package to arrive with "Androtics Direct’ stamped on it, cause then going to be alot of questions to answer, I don’t think they would care, my step dad would probably ask to borrow some, but . . . you get the idea, heh. TIA ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-second-opinion/35777/2 "2010-01-28T01:32:48Z")
It would give aproximity the same effect, but I think at this point ammo is very close to being available again. If your thinking of a small order I would wait for it. ---
**Author:** ![frostworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@frostworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frostworth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-second-opinion/35777/3 "2010-01-28T16:07:59Z")
Patience is a virtue. I’d personally just wait. However, if you have the money, why not try it out yourself. Honestly, I can’t remember the packaging, but I get all my orders delivered to my parent’s house because the mailing in college is not trustworthy. So far, my parents haven’t asked yet as the packaging was not conspicuous enough. However, my parents, although Asian, are fairly liberal about the stuff I buy online and don’t really care unless it’s a very big package. ---
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-second-opinion/35777/4 "2010-01-28T22:30:51Z")
Packaging is discrete and I dont think the word “androtics” or “[pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)” are on the package anywhere. Mine comes in a white envelope and the only thing that could make it tough for you is I think I need to be there when it arrives because it requires a signature.