# Need A Spark (can't start a fire without one)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [August 4, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310 "2009-08-04T23:48:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![O.K.Din](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@O.K.Din](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/O.K.Din)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/1 "2009-08-04T23:48:17Z")

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Hi. I’m a guy from the U.S. Midwest. What a friendly and helpful group of souls are in this forum. I appreciate you already.

A TV reference to pheromones caught my attention a while back, and I’ve been investigating them the last few days. For some background: my self-esteem was crushed in my childhood, and my ability to make casual conversation and develop relationships went with it. I’ve struggled for years to recover (Maybe pheromones would have helped). I believe I’m back to almost average ability.

PROBLEM:  
The good news is that I’m engaged to marry. My fiancee and I have known each other 2 years and plan to marry in 8 months. The bad news is that her affection and interest in our relationship seems to have waned. She occasionally refers to our marriage and life together, but her communication with me, time willing to spend with me, and any enthusiasm on her part has dropped noticeably over the last several months. Attempts to discuss the reasons only lead to excuses such as not feeling well, family problems, work challenges, bad weather, etc.

Well, I know this is not a forum for relationship counseling, and I don’t expect anything too dramatic; but I’m wondering about pheromone use. It sounds like Ammunition is a good basis for a start, and I think maybe Instant Shine would be good for me. Also, I may try to waft some [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) in her direction. 🙂 Do you have any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/2 "2009-08-04T23:57:27Z")

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> [@O.K.Din](#):
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> Hi. I’m a guy from the U.S. Midwest. What a friendly and helpful group of souls are in this forum. I appreciate you already.
> 
> A TV reference to pheromones caught my attention a while back, and I’ve been investigating them the last few days. For some background: my self-esteem was crushed in my childhood, and my ability to make casual conversation and develop relationships went with it. I’ve struggled for years to recover (Maybe pheromones would have helped). I believe I’m back to almost average ability.
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> PROBLEM:  
> The good news is that I’m engaged to marry. My fiancee and I have known each other 2 years and plan to marry in 8 months. The bad news is that her affection and interest in our relationship seems to have waned. She occasionally refers to our marriage and life together, but her communication with me, time willing to spend with me, and any enthusiasm on her part has dropped noticeably over the last several months. Attempts to discuss the reasons only lead to excuses such as not feeling well, family problems, work challenges, bad weather, etc.
> 
> Well, I know this is not a forum for relationship counseling, and I don’t expect anything too dramatic; but I’m wondering about pheromone use. It sounds like Ammunition is a good basis for a start, and I think maybe Instant Shine would be good for me. Also, I may try to waft some Instant Honesty in her direction. 🙂 Do you have any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks.

hi and welcome from a fellow midwesterner 🙂

may i ask how old you and your fiancee are? this will help guide you in dosing, especially for ammo and a stronger product, tuth.

ishine is a great start. it helps to cheer everyone up and give a shiny outlook on things.

there are also some good social pheros, ih as you noticed and also io. io helps to open up the conversation in case maybe she has something she wants to say. ih, though it has a strong name, isn’t necessarily a truth serum. used wisely though, you can get down to the root of whatever the problem is and talk about it.

ammo is a well-balanced sexual phero and provides great results. tuth is stronger and gives more of a “spark.” which one you use will depend on what type of spark you need. does the sex just need some spicing up? or is it nonexistent for the most part?

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/3 "2009-08-05T00:26:39Z")

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Hi O.K Din,

Welcome to the forum.

To enhance relationship with your fiancee, I will suggest IH, AMMO and maybe TUTH.

IH will encourage her to talk more details and deeper. You will understand her more and this can make the relationship cloer.

AMMO will make her attracted to you again. It can also sexually arouse her.  
Like jaya said, you may also want to try TUTH. It is a sexual [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) and it can spice up your sex life with her.

Good luck to you

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/4 "2009-08-05T04:49:57Z")

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Hey, and welcome. I’m very sorry to hear about your possible problems. Besides [pheromones](https://a314.com/) I suggest also seeking friendly help to help salvage these slight issues you and your fiancée have. Pheromones are great, but if there’s an underlying problem it may hinder their results.

I suggest IH to help deepen communication with your wife, and IO to help the conversation flow. Some AMMO would be great too, but for you I personally suggest IG or A314 to give you that Alpha male provider vibe all women find attractive. It may also help realize just how good of a mate you really are, and will comfort her knowing you’re also giving off the vibe of a great husband.

Hope this helps, and some IS won’t hurt either!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/5 "2009-08-05T20:38:45Z")

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Hi there O.K. Dinand welcome to PheromoneTalk.

You’ve found the right place and I’m pretty sure you’ll find that this is a most amazing community. OK, onto your post. A couple of things caught my eye and I’d like to address them for you. I think some IH could help open up your future wife to be and get her talking, but the real question still remains, what changed? She obviously loved you enough to say yes, but what has happened between then and now? Did you stop being who you are? Are you letting her get away with more? Do you have boundaries, does she? Have you spanked her recently 🙂? (that’s a joke)

Maybe you are both getting cold feet, but either way you need to first find the underlying issue and get them fixed. IH can help bring all this out into the open.

**I’ll be emailing your GC in just a little while 🙂**

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/6 "2009-08-08T09:03:25Z")

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Hello there and welcome!

I can slightly relate to your situation as the guy I am seeing is becoming less affectionate and less into being with me and blaming things on work.

Might I suggest some IH. Its good for making things more comfortable around you and other people and I’ve found the B-nol in it has done me some good with my problems.

And yes the men’s [sexual pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/) are also great to help get her more into you.

Best of luck to you. I know life and love can be tough, but we all get through it one way or another. Ciao 🙂

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**Author:** ![O.K.Din](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@O.K.Din](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/O.K.Din)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/7 "2009-08-09T12:55:10Z")

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I am extremely grateful to all of you thoughtful friends who have responded. You have clarified some things and have encouraged me. THANK YOU.

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**Author:** ![InvisibleMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/invisibleman/32/1830_2.png) [@InvisibleMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/InvisibleMan)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-a-spark-cant-start-a-fire-without-one/31310/8 "2009-08-09T16:32:38Z")

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Hey man,  
feel for you with what you have described. You just have to get her to open up but before that i think you need to look within yourself to see if there are subtle differences in yourself.  
I know with one of my ex’s if i could see or feel that something was wrong i would just annoy the shit out of her until she got angry and told me anyways. She would be a little angry for a while but it stops that little splinter festering into something bigger. Now i am def not recommending you do this cause it is an EX 🙂! But am sure this is not why we broke up.

As far as phero’s go, seriously what have you got to lose. IS is great for putting yourself in a good mood, which in turn makes other people want to be around you. While all the suggestions are very applicable and valid, i tend to agree with Mr [mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714) and his recommendations. While phero’s are useful they are merely a foot in the door.  
Good luck man and sincerely hope it works out for you. 😃
