# Need advice from experienced phero users **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 5, 2015, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458 "2015-06-05T19:16:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/21 "2015-06-15T00:06:32Z")
> [@El\_Laberinto](#): > > I have Ammo, IS and P131 (togo) > I will order TUTH when it comes back in the store, TAC and CTTM v.2 > Is there anything else worth purchasing for 23 years old european guy? Those sound good to me. I think the ammo will go well with the Hedione for sure. I like P95, it makes girls playful. Other than that, just the ones I’ve tried are in my sig.. And my favorites are only a few if them, which I’ve mentioned already. IG is good for Asian women.. If that’s your thing. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/22 "2015-06-15T00:29:25Z")
IG never goes wrong for a young guy - Helps present a smart/dashing status and can be used standalone at work, in polite company etc. ---
**Author:** ![Meister\_Pharaoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Meister\_Pharaoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Meister_Pharaoh)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/23 "2015-06-15T00:57:35Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > IG never goes wrong for a young guy - Helps present a smart/dashing status and can be used standalone at work, in polite company etc. Do you think IG or A314 (in small doses) would work better for a younger guy? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/24 "2015-06-15T10:16:25Z")
> [@Meister\_Pharaoh](#): > > Do you think IG or A314 (in small doses) would work better for a younger guy? A small dose of A314 behind Ammo is a viable mix on a younger guy and at work A314 can be useful - depending on the situation but if attraction in younger women is a goal, IG is probably the more versatile - Women tend to mature into finding an A314 sig attractive and really, mid 20s is the turning point for most with things accelerating rapidly once they hit their 30s. Much younger than that you can be taken as to old, too serious/LTR-minded or even dad/uncle-like. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/25 "2015-06-15T16:08:02Z")
> [@El\_Laberinto](#): > > Yeah I ordered 80ml version about 1 hour ago. We will see how it will go. > 1 question more. Can you use Hedione as a single “product” or does it need to be mixed with something else? Hey I’m not good at these things but when you were on the website could you tell if the Hedione is oil or cologne? I cannot tell. It looked like cologne to me and it sprays out of the spray bottle just fine.. But after examining it, I’m thinking it is oil… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Laberinto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/el_laberinto/32/307_2.png) [@El\_Laberinto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/El_Laberinto)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/26 "2015-06-15T17:20:44Z")
If my chemistry knowledge is right… It is not oil and it is not colgone. It is just more complex “methane” substance. It is like water or methane or gasoline… It is just another standalone chemistry substance. And yes, substance can be “thick”, smooth or anything else. Wikipedia says: “Clear to pale yellow oily liquid” ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/27 "2015-06-15T18:19:22Z")
> [@El\_Laberinto](#): > > If my chemistry knowledge is right… It is not oil and it is not colgone. > It is just more complex “methane” substance. It is like water or methane or gasoline… > It is just another standalone chemistry substance. And yes, substance can be “thick”, smooth or anything else. > Wikipedia says: “Clear to pale yellow oily liquid” So do you think it’s necessary to mix with alcohol to make a cologne? Or just use it straight the way it is? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Laberinto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/el_laberinto/32/307_2.png) [@El\_Laberinto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/El_Laberinto)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/28 "2015-06-15T18:29:49Z")
Huh you are asking too much. I do not know. I think I will just use it straight the way it is. I mean… What would alcohol even add to the mix? Maybe just faster vaporization. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/29 "2015-06-15T18:36:05Z")
I guess I am asking a bit much. It is just I’ve been reading that when you make your own cologne with oils, the longer it sits in the alcohol the greater the smell will be. And honestly, the smell has seem to diminish over time. It’s not as strong as when I first received it. In fact, the only way I seem to smell it is when I sweat or rub it on my body. But I guess it wouldn’t matter much if they could smell it knowingly I guess. But I was also thinking in terms of volume.. Because if it’s mixed with alcohol, I could perhaps stretch my amount out for longer periods of time. If I do a 50/50 mix Hedione/alcohol I could potentially make it last twice as long? Maybe I’m just overthinking. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Laberinto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/el_laberinto/32/307_2.png) [@El\_Laberinto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/El_Laberinto)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/30 "2015-06-15T18:41:55Z")
I think your theory is wrong. I would say it would last “twice” as short. I mean twice is not right number of course, but lets just guess that number. This is just my logic… ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/31 "2015-06-15T18:53:31Z")
Yeah maybe you’re right. So you think diluting it wouldn’t be a good idea.. Just use it straight? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Laberinto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/el_laberinto/32/307_2.png) [@El\_Laberinto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/El_Laberinto)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 11:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458/32 "2015-06-17T11:54:39Z")
I will report back, when I will get my Hedione. But yeah I am planning to use it straight and with other AD products. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-advice-from-experienced-phero-users/64458.md?page=1)