# Need help- ammo did not work for me! Ammo users help! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 15, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588 "2012-02-15T21:42:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nesh0711](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3be4f8/32.png) [@Nesh0711](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nesh0711)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/1 "2012-02-15T21:42:14Z")
Thank you everyone for your kind tips and encouragement. You guys are so positive and nice! However, I really do need help and/or clarification! Please!!! I had a very unpleasent experince and now I am so confused. the events had somewhat did some damage to my reputation and my confidence. Perphaps I did somethin wrong but I leave it to the memebers here to tell me what went wrong or no fault on my part. Please allow me to explain and read what I have to say till the end before you jump to ay conclusion. I am not being negative but just sharing my disappointment. The reason why I post here is because somehow I still believe in this product and I felt maybe it was me not the prodcut but I do not know. I just need help. See, from my introductory (see my introduction post) post it is quite clear that I was very very impressed with the reviews of AMMO and was so eagerly waiting for mine to reach and was so excited to try it out! In fact, I was so excited that when the shipment arrived in singapore (you can track via online at DHL website) I opt to self-collect it myself at their warehouse myself! (I would like to add that it had cost me $79 for a 30ml bottle including delivery - i would not bother buying anythng if I felt it was not worth the hassle or money). My bio : Age:28 Ethinic : Asian ( Punjabi) Nationality : born and raised in singapore Looks : well above average Social staus : Attcahed. I have a girlfriend and she is asian, indian. There is alot of parties and socila meeting that I attend to (both work and personal reasons). Reason for getting AMMO : I always feel intimidated by white ladies though I do not have this problem with asian ladies. There is nothing wrong with my confidence as I can have conversation well with anyone but especially when it comes to white ladies I feel intimidated. My colleagues, friends most of them are white. I just wanted to increase my level of atractiveness among white ladies. Incident : I attend evening classes for my degree course. The classroom is very very small. There is only 7 of us including the professor. So obiviously we got the smallest rrom at the campus. Trust me its a small room. its about 7 feet wide, and 12 feet long and very narrow. And there are 3 girls and two boys,. Its a pefect place to test the product. So after I had a nice shower and dressed smart, I put on 3 sprays of AMMO - front of chest, back, and one on the left wrist and mashed it up with the other wrist. Now, while waiting for my product ( typical of me) I did alot of reading - thanks to this forum and its memebers - on how to use AMMO and the most appropriate spot to spray, overdose etc etc. At first, it smelled like detergent or some kind of soap. I though its just the initial effect. Then it smelled smiliar to coll water by davidoff (or so i thought). Now first stop was to meet my girlfriend. Guess What!! I was literally hugging her and she did not even smell anything. Now she knows that I am very vain and I like to smell good so I wear perfume or cologne every time I go out. And she knows my regular perfume smell. It was now like 15mins since I met and and we were siting side by side and she still has not commented yet. Her reactionw were normal. just like any other day. Then I cant take it anymore and I asked her how is my new cologne smells like? She said she did not realise that and then she had sniff and said it was pleasant. I was SO RELIEVED to hear that! BUT EVERYTHING WENT DOWNHILL FROM HERE. About 30 mins later, she said something is smells pretty bad. and by now I too can smell that - It was AMMO. Now were in a air-conditioned room and I was not sweating at all. But the scent of AMMO now started to smell like sweat smell. But my girlfriend said I smelled like pee!!! She is always so nice to me and honest so I know when she says something she means it. I reached campus and I sat right next to the girl who I just admire. Gues what, she did not even notice or make eye contact. I have chated up her before and she usually says hello and has small talk with me. But today, she said hello but after a few mins she just fell slient! I was sitting so close to her and there were other girls in class sitting front of me and at the back of me but none showed any signs or ‘hits’ symtoms that was described and discussed in tis thread. I cracked jokes and all and be frendly as I usally am towrds these girls but everyone seem to back away. I know the spray was not strong because I had just sprayed 3 times. and by now I was concious that I was indeed starting to smell like a PEE! It affected my confidence that day. My lesson lasted for 3 hours. I was so disappointed. When I was heading back home with my girlfriend, she behaved very unsual. She did not hug me or sit very close to me. She kept saying please do not wear this cologne again and that it really stinks. So, fellow forum members, seniors and AMMO users, did I do something wrong? perhaps applied wrongly or too much spray? why didn’t AMMO work for me? almost everyone in this forum said they had hits. but why not in my case. Now I do put on facial cream bcause I have sensitive skin and it contains Peptide. would that have any effect? even so, regardless whether I stink or not, why then the phermone did not work. it should be working to tell the ladies I smell good or something like that right? So thats it. Sorry fo the lengthy post but I do not want forum members to think I am trying to flame androtics or AMMO. I want list everything that happended so that you can advise me what to do next or what went wrong. I now a phobia of AMMO that I will smell like pee! Any help and suggestion is appreciated. and lastly, my post is not intended to offend anyone. I am just stating the facts and need help as I still belive in AMMO. ---
**Author:** ![lowrider639](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lowrider639/32/2051_2.png) [@lowrider639](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lowrider639)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/2 "2012-02-15T21:57:42Z")
Hello, It’s great that you’re giving us the feedback. It is possible that some people have problems with different scents. Many people here do complain about the ff21 smell that it’s too strong for them. What you can do is contact AD and get some ammo in a different scent. My personal fav is [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/). It is light and smells like human musk. Hope that helps. Have fun! lowrider ---
**Author:** ![jazzysax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jazzysax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jazzysax)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/3 "2012-02-15T22:00:47Z")
I’ve read on the forum that everyone has a different body chemistry. The way to try out a new [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) is to try 1 spray on day 1, 2 sprays on day two, and then take a day off. I would say 3 spays is a little much to start out on using a sexual product. As for the pee smell, I haven’t had this experience, but nevertheless I haven’t been successful with AMMO either. I’m just commenting what i have read before on the forum. Try A314. It will make everything easier. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/4 "2012-02-15T22:56:49Z")
Just curious, did you use double strength [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)? If so, using 3 sprays is a bit too much. I myself am a little older and I only use about 1 spray because I think the smell is a bit potent. 3 sprays right off the bat in my opinion is a little too much. However I don’t get that pee smell when I use Ammo. In your case I think you had your first OD experience. I usually use just one spray on my chest (nowhere near my nose) and I’m good. ---
**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/5 "2012-02-16T00:09:08Z")
I’ve read some stories in here of none starting to smell like pee. It’s definitely a small minority. If you do a search of this forum, you’ll find some. ---
**Author:** ![MclarenMercedesF1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mclarenmercedesf1/32/2073_2.png) [@MclarenMercedesF1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MclarenMercedesF1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2012, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/6 "2012-02-16T10:59:41Z")
> [@21wq](#): > > I’ve read some stories in here of none starting to smell like pee. It’s definitely a small minority. If you do a search of this forum, you’ll find some. Yes this is true, wore it to class once (2 1/2 SPRAYS) and you can tell its was very very potent. I almost didnt want to stay cause it was so strong. ---
**Author:** ![Nesh0711](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3be4f8/32.png) [@Nesh0711](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nesh0711)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/7 "2012-02-18T19:31:05Z")
> [@lowrider639](#): > > Hello, > > It’s great that you’re giving us the feedback. It is possible that some people have problems with different scents. Many people here do complain about the ff21 smell that it’s too strong for them. What you can do is contact AD and get some ammo in a different scent. My personal fav is Akuto. It is light and smells like human musk. Hope that helps. Have fun! > > lowrider Thanks for your tips. I probably would not want to spend money any more. I am just very diappointed and confused. I did read a few thread that claims that AMMO stinked like detergent and sweat but I had thought those were people trying to flame Androtics or something but I now can relate to their experince. Seriously pee smell as cologne??? Again, thank you for your tips though. > [@jazzysax](#): > > I’ve read on the forum that everyone has a different body chemistry. The way to try out a new pheromone product is to try 1 spray on day 1, 2 sprays on day two, and then take a day off. I would say 3 spays is a little much to start out on using a sexual product. As for the pee smell, I haven’t had this experience, but nevertheless I haven’t been successful with AMMO either. I’m just commenting what i have read before on the forum. Try A314. It will make everything easier. Aha! Perhaps this is where I wnet wrong. I should have started off with one spray first. However, many threads here made me to believe 3 is just right for ‘hits’. Anyways, I am too afraid to try it out. I cant get that smell to go away though I know I am just being paranoid now. But dude, when you are the only guy smelling like pee in a class 7…thats real damaging! Thanks for your comment though. > [@andromun](#): > > Just curious, did you use double strength Ammo? If so, using 3 sprays is a bit too much. I myself am a little older and I only use about 1 spray because I think the smell is a bit potent. > > 3 sprays right off the bat in my opinion is a little too much. However I don’t get that pee smell when I use Ammo. In your case I think you had your first OD experience. > > I usually use just one spray on my chest (nowhere near my nose) and I’m good. I used the 1xStrength. Not 2x. Perhaps it was indeed too much to start off with. > [@21wq](#): > > I’ve read some stories in here of none starting to smell like pee. It’s definitely a small minority. If you do a search of this forum, you’ll find some. I have read none are found in urine and sweat. But that’s why you have AMMO mixed with cologne right, to neutralise the strong potent smell??? even so, I have read in threads that though the users know they stinked, they wrote the females ‘loved’ the smell and somehow the none in AMMO made them think that way. Why so that in my case the none didnt do that?? > [@MclarenMercedesF1](#): > > Yes this is true, wore it to class once (2 1/2 SPRAYS) and you can tell its was very very potent. I almost didnt want to stay cause it was so strong. I can relate to that. How do you manage it now? are you still using it? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/8 "2012-02-18T22:14:14Z")
It looks to me that you did have hits - but not the kind you wanted. That girl who usually talks, she recolied from you and became reticent. Which is often what happens when someone is exposed to too much none or none in the wrong environment. Oh and class in not the best place for high-dose none as it is difficult for either of you to be comfortably congruent or respond freely. Better use a lower dose, then increase it as you move to a less inhibited environment. Then your GF recoiling - again, that’s a negative reaction and not unusual for someone close when exposed to a sudden change in phero signature. Especially with none and rone. The smell is something else. When using pheros, you do need to accept that some people will find they stink badly, whilst others will smell nothing at all and many more will be somewhere on a range in between. This is a genetic-level response and we can’t do much about it! IME, this is not something to worry about as in most cases it does not actually affect the phero responses that much. In fact, I don’t know how often I’ve been told by a woman that they find a bit of smell good on a man. The cover scent does help but if someone is that sensitive, it won’t keep their nose at bay for that long. I get something similar with P103 - I get superb physical/space-reducing hits on it but I am so sensitive to its smell that after an hour or so of wearing it, I feel I must be stinking of old cheese no matter how strong my cover scent is. Ladies still seem to like to climb all over me though, so I just suffer it! :o 🙂 Lastly, instead of just banging-on three sprays, why not do your sweet spot testing properly and start with one spray and some of your usual scent - that way you don’t change your signature too much and give those closest to you a bit of time to adjust to the pheros. ---
**Author:** ![kwow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@kwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kwow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/9 "2012-02-19T00:00:11Z")
^^^^^^^ What mobo said. You got hits. Just negative ones. Def should start out a bit smaller. No worries though. We’ve all done that when we get our first bottles. I believe Steve-O called it the Phero baptism or something. In any case try the one spray and try it out next to your gf and classmates. then 2. then the rest day. After testing like that then you will get a better picture. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-ammo-did-not-work-for-me-ammo-users-help/54588/10 "2012-02-19T03:02:01Z")
First mistake is you wore three sprays. Second mistake was asking your GF to smell it. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) work in the subconscious and when you asked her to smell them even though you didn’t say they were mones you brought the scent to her consciousness. I don’t know how many women in your class are Asian or if your GF is Asian but Asian women (especially those brought up in the Asian culture) don’t like anone and 1/3 of ammo is anone. Anone does smell like piss to many people but only a small percentage of people can smell it at all. Asian people tend to be able to smell them better then caucasians. To tell you the truth I didn’t notice any hits from what you described. You did shower and start with a clean slate but bacterial conversion could still occur. This will cause the piss smell to get stronger. My suggestion is start with one spray. Use antibacterial soap in the shower and find a cologne to use as a cover. Usually we tell people to wait 10 minutes for dry down of the mones then cover to prevent bleed through of the underlying scent. If you find have a cologne that blends well with the Ammo scent you can try applying it when mones are still wet and see if it covers better. I would try both methods. Most pheromones evoke a feeling of confidence on some level. They all do not smell like anone. I suggest if you purchase in the future get some socials like Ishine and IO. These tend to work better with Asians and help convey a confident attractive vibe. Tisha