# Need Help Building Attraction with Friend

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 8, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494 "2016-10-08T17:16:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriendZoneBreaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ad7895/32.png) [@FriendZoneBreaker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FriendZoneBreaker)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/1 "2016-10-08T17:16:47Z")

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Hi Fellas,

Long and short of it is I’ve been in love with my friend for about 4 years. In the beginning we spent a lot of time together but never even kissed. I bloodied up the whole situation and let myself be relegated to the dreaded friend zone.

Flash forward to today and we have been dating for the past couple years. There are still major attraction issues however. She does not want to have sex that often. She always says that she wants to be with me and spend the rest of our lives together but she just isn’t attracted to me.

I’m a good looking guy, have money, great job and truly love this girl. I’m at my last wit here as I fear I may lose her for good.

I’ve been doing my own independent research and it is hard to figure out so I am coming to the experts. I recently ordered RawChemistry on Amazon because I couldn’t find any place to buy TUTH.

Do you guys have any suggestions or can you tell me where I can find TUTH? As far as I can tell I need a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that will build attraction and comfort so she can feel that feeling that she needs to feel with her partner. Attraction, affection, comfort. I know the sex will come after that as I have never had a sex problem with any woman before.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/2 "2016-10-08T18:58:06Z")

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TUTH and the other pheros from AD can be purchased here:

> **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com)**
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> A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget

But TUTH isn’t the necessarily the first choice in your situation. It’s a very sexual, straight-to-the-point kinda pheromone, good for sexy time in the bedroom, not very good for attraction.

How old are you and your (girl)friend? Age is important as it will determine what products will be most effective FOR you and WITH her.

As a very general mix, A314 oil + [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) + P74 should definitely up her investment in you over time.. you will have to wear this mix consistently every time you’re around her over several weeks before you can reasonably expect to see something brewing in her..

Then, just before you seduce her over a nice home-cooked candle-light dinner and a ice-cold bottle of bubbles, you might add a few sprays of TUTH + TAC to get her juices flowing.

Being attractive though, isn’t just pheromones. It’s also about being slightly un-predictable, spontaneous and a passionate lover, never afraid to explore new territory and being completely nonjudgmental about a woman’s many desires.

And also about being a man with many options (partner-wise) and a mission in life. So if your life right now is all about routine and knitted sweater-vests, time to shake it UP!!

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**Author:** ![FriendZoneBreaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ad7895/32.png) [@FriendZoneBreaker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FriendZoneBreaker)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/3 "2016-10-08T19:00:26Z")

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Thanks for the reply. We are both 28 years old. Does that change your suggestions?

> [@ScentHound](#):
>
> TUTH and the other pheros from AD can be purchased here:
> 
> [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com)
> 
> But TUTH isn’t the necessarily the first choice in your situation. It’s a very sexual, straight-to-the-point kinda pheromone, good for sexy time in the bedroom, not very good for attraction.
> 
> How old re you and your (girl)friend? Age is important as it will determine what products will be most effective FOR you and WITH her.
> 
> As a very general mix, A314 oil + Instant Honesty + P74 should definitely up her investment in you over time.. you will have to wear this mix consistently every time you’re around her over several weeks before you can reasonably expect to see something brewing in her..
> 
> Then, just before you seduce her over a nice home-cooked candle-light dinner and a ice-cold bottle of bubbles, you might add a few sprays of TUTH + TAC to get her juices flowing.
> 
> Being attractive though, isn’t just pheromones. It’s also about being slightly un-predictable, spontaneous and a passionate lover, never afraid to explore new territory and being completely nonjudgmental about a woman’s many desires.
> 
> And also about being a man with many options (partner-wise) and a mission in life. So if your life right now is all about routine and knitted sweater-vests, time to shake it UP!!

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/4 "2016-10-08T21:27:40Z")

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You have excellent advice above.

I agree that A314/IH/P74 or A314/P96 is best to wear as a base mix around her to help your status, LTR-attractive qualities and to promote pair-bonding and emotional investment in you as time goes-on - and yes, you should be stepping-up your behaviour to present the most attractive aspects possible. Even if she’s known you a long time, her sensing that “something’s changed” about you can in itself be very sexy indeed.

TUTH can be unpredictable - so keep it for the times she is likely to want sex. Wearing it in a nonsexual environment or when she is not reasonably likely to be in the mood for sex can go right against you. Similarly, overt sexuals around her period can be a very bad idea!

Further steering with the likes of TAC (doses over 20mcg) or [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) are also very useful.

If you are in contact all the time by various media, it is also time to cut right back - Give her a bit of room to “miss you” and realise what you are worth to her. Again, a bit of healthy curiosity about you can be very good for attraction. Don’t be an open-book or a doormat for her. 🙂

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**Author:** ![FriendZoneBreaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ad7895/32.png) [@FriendZoneBreaker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FriendZoneBreaker)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/5 "2016-10-08T21:29:59Z")

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Thanks guys. What’s the deal with the website to buy them? It says everything is out of stock?

> [@mobocaster](#):
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> You have excellent advice above.
> 
> I agree that A314/IH/P74 or A314/P96 is best to wear as a base mix around her to help your status, LTR-attractive qualities and to promote pair-bonding and emotional investment in you as time goes-on - and yes, you should be stepping-up your behaviour to present the most attractive aspects possible. Even if she’s known you a long time, her sensing that “something’s changed” about you can in itself be very sexy indeed.
> 
> TUTH can be unpredictable - so keep it for the times she is likely to want sex. Wearing it in a nonsexual environment or when she is not reasonably likely to be in the mood for sex can go right against you. Similarly, overt sexuals around her period can be a very bad idea!
> 
> Further steering with the likes of TAC (doses over 20mcg) or Instant Shine are also very useful.
> 
> If you are in contact all the time by various media, it is also time to cut right back - Give her a bit of room to “miss you” and realise what you are worth to her. Again, a bit of healthy curiosity about you can be very good for attraction. Don’t be an open-book or a doormat for her. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/6 "2016-10-09T09:32:06Z")

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A314 and IH are in stock - and I would strongly recommend A314 oil in this situation due to its subtlety and longevity per application but the /b spray is similar in impact (but less subtle/shorter acting) if you want to start that way.

TUTH, [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and P96 are out - TUTH and P74 go in and out of stock but are usually back pretty quickly. It used to be that they updated the store on Tuesdays, so maybe check back then and see if this is still the case?

P96 is different. It has been in good supply for the last couple of years but it did suffer a very long drought (several years!) before that - So every time it goes OOS, I worry! ☹

At 28, I’d suggest 2.5mcg TUTH to start with and 7.5-10mcg concentration P74 and @10mcg for P96 till you find your best dose but I’d suggest keeping P74 below 30mcg total in any romantic/sexual mix as too much of it in a mix can get a bit too “best friendly” and you don’t want thati

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**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/7 "2016-10-09T17:03:36Z")

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> [@FriendZoneBreaker](#):
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> Thanks for the reply. We are both 28 years old. Does that change your suggestions?

No, 28 is fine, both for you wearing A314 oil, you are old enough to be congruent with the signature and at 28 your girlfriend should be equally mature enough to find the status of A314 very attractive indeed.

Other than this I defer to the quality advice Mobocaster has given you, he knows pretty much everything there is to know about these matters, IME!

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-building-attraction-with-friend/66494/8 "2016-10-15T20:21:39Z")

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Hey Friendzonebreaker how’s it going?

You got superb advice above and I think you should run with it.  
I would ask a few questions myself like what are your’s and her’s nationality. If you’re 28 you’re at a good age to test, because your natural [pheromones](https://a314.com/) not too high or low.  
TUTH/TAC should work great in bed. She’ll definitely be ‘attracted’ to you then.  
But TUTH shouldn’t be really used other than for that.

I suppose the next question I’d ask is are you prepared to share the pheromone journey with her or keep it a secret. If you share with her you could probably just tell her so she can be assured that you guys can have that attraction, sex, and intimacy.  
But if it’s meant to be kept secret, I would say you really want to woo her.  
Not just pheromones, but do it all in conjunction. As was mentioned, switch up the monotony of your daily lives, give her space to miss you. Try new things.  
You definitely want to spice up the bedroom life but you want to get her attracted to you as an individual. It’s easy to make sex fun. Not so easy to make someone feel something for someone they don’t.

With that being said, I’d say work on some day mixes that keep her admiring you, and save the high TUTH sexuals for in the bedroom.

Also, I might add that when I first started testing mones on my significant other we had quite a bit of issues as I tried to dial in my sweet spot. My advice to you is, if at all possible, test your mixes on other women, strangers perhaps, of women of the same race and age as her so you can get a feel.  
Because you’re in a toughs pot as it is and I doubt you can afford to make yourself appear any less attractive to her.
