# Need Help Getting Started **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 17, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375 "2010-06-17T20:33:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/1 "2010-06-17T20:33:26Z")
Im new and what should i start out with? AMMO,IH,IJ,IS,Tuth, instant gentleman? or what 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ScottyGD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@ScottyGD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScottyGD)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/2 "2010-06-17T21:45:49Z")
> [@Jabez](#): > > Im new and what should i start out with? AMMO,IH,IJ,IS,Tuth, instant gentleman? or what 😕 Well to be safe, start out with something other than tuth or IJ. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is always a great choice and so is IG. I have them both and would recommend them to just about anyone. I wasn’t a huge fan of IG’s scent but others who i’ve talked to like it. If ammo was in stock, I would buy it instantly. But the question is, what are you looking for specifically? ---
**Author:** ![ScottyGD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@ScottyGD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScottyGD)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/3 "2010-06-17T21:50:19Z")
> [@Jabez](#): > > Im new and what should i start out with? AMMO,IH,IJ,IS,Tuth, instant gentleman? or what 😕 Just wondering, have you done the intro to get the free gift card? ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/4 "2010-06-17T23:06:59Z")
I dont know yet just a base to get started. On another thread a guy suggested Instant Shine and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). Are those the type that set people at ease and relax and make introductions and what not easier? ---
**Author:** ![ScottyGD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@ScottyGD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScottyGD)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/5 "2010-06-18T00:09:20Z")
> [@Jabez](#): > > I dont know yet just a base to get started. On another thread a guy suggested Instant Shine and Instant Honesty. Are those the type that set people at ease and relax and make introductions and what not easier? It will probably be a subtle difference, but instant openness will most likely be better for intro-conversations. Instant shine will be tremendous for that as well ---
**Author:** ![thundercat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thundercat/32/2345_2.png) [@thundercat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thundercat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/6 "2010-06-18T00:40:09Z")
Hi there id reccomend you don’t buy too many mones at first as its so tempting to kitchen sink your mones. But if i was to buy a single product depending on the type of usage id choose: Social : [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) - Bar None Sexual : Turn up the heat Attraction: AMMO Work: MX297 Respect: A314 , But then again the hits can be very subtle and hard to spot at first so might not be too good to start with but MX297 once again might be a good choice. If you just want to see what mones do and don’t really have an agenda: **Instant Shine** and **AMMO** ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/7 "2010-06-18T02:02:35Z")
Seeing as ammo is out what is a sub for attaction? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/8 "2010-06-18T02:10:05Z")
> [@Jabez](#): > > Seeing as ammo is out what is a sub for attaction? A sports car ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/9 "2010-06-18T02:20:02Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > A sports car LMAO A Crown would do just as well ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/10 "2010-06-18T02:23:46Z")
Lol very true. I already got that base covered.Idk if Muscle Cars count thouh. Dad died when I was in 5th grade leaving me two beautiful machines known as mustangs. 1970 Mach 1 and a 78 King Cobra. ---
**Author:** ![ami81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@ami81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ami81)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/11 "2010-06-18T02:37:09Z")
im a newbie myself and my first order is: IS, IG, IO, IH and TUTH all TOGOs I think with this you pretty much cover all the bases (except for Ammo of course, im waiting for that as well) ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/12 "2010-06-18T02:54:39Z")
Hmm Thats what i Might do but throw some instant jerk in there? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/13 "2010-06-18T04:05:01Z")
Given your age I’d hold off on A314 until you’ve sampled all the other products first, especially the rone based products like IG and [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)…to get a sense of how a respect hit is different from a social or sexual hit. A314 is subtle and if you don’t know what to look for you might miss it’s effects ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/14 "2010-06-18T04:12:41Z")
k Ty. This is what I am about to order as we speak tell me what you think. IS,IH,IO TUTH ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/15 "2010-06-18T04:58:59Z")
instead of TuTH I’d see if MX301 and [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) are available, you’re playing it smart by going heavy with the socials, but for a sexual TuTH is a bit much, Ammo would be better but it’s not available atm so MX 301 should work well, 297 is a great respect product with a hint of attraction to it, sort of a IG/A314 type product but with some more attraction than either. ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/16 "2010-06-18T05:21:57Z")
Which is better mx301 or mx297? ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-getting-started/39375/17 "2010-06-18T05:27:04Z")
[MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is out so i am going to go with MX301