# need help handling the super ego girls? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 3, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248 "2009-08-03T09:08:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cotlime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@cotlime](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cotlime)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/1 "2009-08-03T09:08:42Z")
Hi I guess this is my first post so I will say something about my self. I am 21 years old, I go to Uni and taking who knows what. I am most likely slightly above avg looking with a slim build (not much with the muscles)… I deffinately belieave in phermones as I am a science student and have researched them in the past. I know they work extremely well for communication with animals. But I am not too sure how accurate they are when it comes to produce them in a bottle. But I am open minded and willing to give them ANOTHER try. Any how enough about me and more about my dilema. I just started work as a server at a high end restaurant. Most of the people I work with are hot server girls and one other guy. I am a very easy going and easy to laugh with person, but these girls hectic. They have a huge ego and the customers who come here feed their egos daily. Its ridiculous. So I know I can eventually soften them up, but this batch is gonna take way too long and I can’t wait that long as it cause awkwardness at work. I need to do this fast. So here I am looking for advice from the pros about pheros. I have used them in the past with minimal to no results but than again I was using pherlure and this other company that no ones heard of before. That was 2 years ago. This site looks much more reputable and I think more trusty with a good community. My question is the classical nubie one, what should I get? I have been reading on here for a while, I am thinking Ammo, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), Instant female magic when it becomes available, and ofcoarse the almighty A314. I have read in the past that taking A314 for guys under 18/17 is prolly not a good idea, but what about my age and situation. I am 21? I just don’t like how Instant gentleman sounds, I don’t wana turn into a nice guy. Cause the ugly truth is they finish last. Your help will be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Jericho](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jericho/32/1658_2.png) [@Jericho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jericho)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/2 "2009-08-03T09:18:20Z")
> [@cotlime](#): > > I am a very easy going and easy to laugh with person, but these girls hectic. They have a huge ego and the customers who come here feed their egos daily. Its ridiculous. How exactly do they act? Are the girls stuck-up or cold? What exactly do you mean when you say they have huge egos? I’m just wondering. Also, it’s not always true that nice guys finish last. Spineless ones, however, always will. (In my book, anyway) Anyways, welcome to the community! More experienced users will definitely come around to give you advice, but from what I hear, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a good product to start with.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/3 "2009-08-03T09:46:41Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t wana turn into a nice guy. Cause the ugly truth is they finish last. You are either mistaken or have no idea what a nice guy is. Spineless weenies, ass kissers, narcissistic dick strokers and pushovers finish last. Nice guys are scalable, flexible and always do the right thing. In other words, they rise to the occasion and kick the appropriate amount of ass as needed. My advice is to wear 2 or 3 drops of A314, hold your head up, ignore them and kick ass. They’ll wonder what the hell. Let the mystery burn a hole in them. Besides, you really shouldn’t give a flying frick about self-preoccupied server twits… ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/4 "2009-08-03T16:05:42Z")
I second the A314 notion. Read muskclouds journal. Ego isn’t who they really are, only who they present themselves to the world as. If you perceive them as having a big ego, then that is what they will be. See them as little bunny rabbits (like in swingers) And you’re a big bear. A FUCKING BEAR WITH CLAWS. 😃 Ammo, IO, IH, IS are all optional and will take some learning like all the [pheromones](https://a314.com/). Be patient. And like Gegogi says, never shit where you work. You can fuck their friends though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Caramello](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/caramello/32/2412_2.png) [@Caramello](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Caramello)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/5 "2009-08-03T17:57:41Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > And you’re a big bear. A FUCKING BEAR WITH CLAWS. 😃 BIG FUCKING TEETH MAN 😛 A314 seems to be a solid base for the result you wanna achieve. Ammo would help things shift towards physical/sexual attraction and it’s known for being safe for use in work environment. Cheers, Caramello ---
**Author:** ![Imjustpete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Imjustpete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Imjustpete)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/6 "2009-08-03T18:38:04Z")
My 16-24 was Case in point that “spineless” nice guys finish last.. Nice with a little backbone is where its at. Nice guys dont fret, you will eventually meet someone who likes you for you. ---
**Author:** ![Jericho](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jericho/32/1658_2.png) [@Jericho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jericho)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/7 "2009-08-03T18:41:16Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > And you’re a big bear. A FUCKING BEAR WITH CLAWS. lol. awesome. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/8 "2009-08-03T20:10:52Z")
yea… ignore them, if they ask you out, you are busy, just got asked to hang out with some friends, if they ask to come with, it’s to a invitation party at a private residence.. Exclusivity builds tension, a guy who is a challenge is worth fighting for. See them as pee on’s… you guys are servers… your not brain surgeons… \<20K a year… I don’t even bother for a LTR.. it’s a standards thing… or play the fun game, f&ck with them but don;t f&ck them… don;t shit where you eat dude… -DJ ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/9 "2009-08-03T21:09:42Z")
> [@](#): > > See them as pee on’s Now that’s a little kinky! ---
**Author:** ![Ur\_Conqueror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ur\_Conqueror](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ur_Conqueror)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/10 "2009-08-03T21:55:10Z")
exacly just play hard to get man do exacly what women do to spinless guys dont call right away just relax and hang back dont go chasing them and never ever compliment their looks this will hurt you..Iv had great success with some phermones and gettin more women in my lives im 22 years old and just got with a women whos 33 years old just be confident my friend and break their balls once ina while like tell them if they served you theyd get a small tip cus they would smother you or something like that man ---
**Author:** ![peregrine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/peregrine/32/499_2.png) [@peregrine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/peregrine)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/11 "2009-08-03T22:06:04Z")
Fu_k’em. If a girls waiting tables and has an ego why would you want them? If you can’t stand them now how bad will it w/ a house and 3 kids? I had one of these types give me crazy attitude years ago. So bad in fact my friends complained to the manager. She was a hostess. When leaving she gave an “apology”. I told her it’s ok, if I knew I’d be opening the door for people the rest of my life I’d be a miserable and hateful bit_ch too. It sounds your a hard worker and are on the right track. Find something better. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/12 "2009-08-04T01:14:06Z")
> [@peregrine](#): > > Fu_k’em. If a girls waiting tables and has an ego why would you want them? If you can’t stand them now how bad will it w/ a house and 3 kids? I had one of these types give me crazy attitude years ago. So bad in fact my friends complained to the manager. She was a hostess. When leaving she gave an “apology”. I told her it’s ok, if I knew I’d be opening the door for people the rest of my life I’d be a miserable and hateful bit_ch too. It sounds your a hard worker and are on the right track. Find something better. 😉 Damn that was insightful advice! “… if I knew I’d be opening the door for people the rest of my life I’d be a miserable and hateful bit\*ch too.” I think I used to work with her too. She never seems to grow old or retire… ---
**Author:** ![Jericho](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jericho/32/1658_2.png) [@Jericho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jericho)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/13 "2009-08-04T01:27:01Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > See them as pee on’s… you guys are servers… your not brain surgeons… > > \<20K a year… I don’t even bother for a LTR.. it’s a standards thing… > > -DJ Please tell me the “pee on’s” thing is a pun and not a tragic typo. As for the “standards” thing, isn’t that kind of insulting to him too? I mean, he’s in the exact same position they are…😕 ---
**Author:** ![peregrine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/peregrine/32/499_2.png) [@peregrine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/peregrine)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/14 "2009-08-04T02:25:12Z")
> [@Jericho](#): > > Please tell me the “pee on’s” thing is a pun and not a tragic typo. > > As for the “standards” thing, isn’t that kind of insulting to him too? I mean, he’s in the exact same position they are…😕 The “pee-on” thing is too funny. I wouldn’t find what DJ said insulting. He’s working on a degree so serving isn’t his career goal. The girls are probably in the same boat. So not to offend the sensibilities of the community, there is nothing wrong w/ working in a restaurant. I used to work for the phone company and still bounce in a rockin’ beach bar. It was like getting paid to socialize. I detest anyone w/ an ego, no matter what you do. Practice lessons in humility. I occasionally receive a good helping of “humble pie” now and then. HMMMMM. Just like mom used to make. LOL. :o ---
**Author:** ![Jericho](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jericho/32/1658_2.png) [@Jericho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jericho)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/15 "2009-08-04T02:48:28Z")
> [@peregrine](#): > > The “pee-on” thing is too funny. I wouldn’t find what DJ said insulting. He’s working on a degree so serving isn’t his career goal. The girls are probably in the same boat. So not to offend the sensibilities of the community, there is nothing wrong w/ working in a restaurant. I used to work for the phone company and still bounce in a rockin’ beach bar. It was like getting paid to socialize. I detest anyone w/ an ego, no matter what you do. Practice lessons in humility. I occasionally receive a good helping of “humble pie” now and then. HMMMMM. Just like mom used to make. LOL. > :o lol no, i totally agree. i was just a little confused:o ---
**Author:** ![cotlime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@cotlime](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cotlime)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/16 "2009-08-04T05:54:21Z")
> [@Jericho](#): > > How exactly do they act? Are the girls stuck-up or cold? What exactly do you mean when you say they have huge egos? > I’m just wondering. > > Also, it’s not always true that nice guys finish last. Spineless ones, however, always will. (In my book, anyway) > > Anyways, welcome to the community! > More experienced users will definitely come around to give you advice, but from what I hear, Ammo is a good product to start with.😃 Well if I were to simply put it, I would say they are too full of them selves. Usually when people get to know me even a little bit, ie 2-3 days later they laugh at my jokes all the time and even sometimes when I am not trying to be funny. The guys at my work already are doing this, but the girls don’t really find me that funny. Either they are doing it on purpose, not finding them funny or are just too dumb to understand them. I dont know. lol ---
**Author:** ![cotlime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@cotlime](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cotlime)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/17 "2009-08-04T06:11:04Z")
You know I can already tell this is a good community. All the posts I have read up, I can tell that they came from deep down and you guys are actually trying to help me out. I know this because I already know most of this stuff. Thankyou for being honest. Seriously I know of people who give bad advice, cause they don’t want others to succeed, a small percentage. I am not too bad with women usually but this whole work thing is bothering me, I don’t necessarely want to boink them gals at work but I would definetly would love to have them want me, who wouldn’t. And soon too. My energy levels have been pretty low recently as I just broke my color bone at jiu-jitsu and have been on meds plus I think I got a mild case of swine flu lol. So I don’t know if I really need the IS, Instant openess etc, the stuff that makes you talk. For the most part actually I can control my own personal behaviour despite the low energy… what I want is something that will effect the girls. I have already been ignoring them for the most part, teasing them and I even got invited to one of the party thrown by my supervisor (not a server bitch) but I turned it down infront of the servers. So I personally believe that I need something that will soften the servers up to me so to speak. I know they can change cause they are pretty friendly with themselves. Its just that when ever they are around any of the guys at work they act up like that. I hope this explains. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/18 "2009-08-04T06:35:33Z")
mx103 had a super ego girl asking for my hand so she could profess her love for me ---
**Author:** ![Elaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Elaye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elaye)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/19 "2009-08-04T06:49:30Z")
When I was doing manual labor, I found that if I leveled with my coworkers and said “Yeah, this place sucks, job is terrible etc etc,” I could then show them how to have a fun time and stay up even if shit is unbearable and degrading. Leadership can go along way if you level with them like that, then lead by example by coming to work everyday with an attitude that shows you are glad you even have a job. You just gotta show you hate the job more then them before you start leading, to establish an even larger ego than theirs. If their highest aspiration is to remain a hostess and they are still upset about life, point it out. Inspire a sense of humble self empowerment. Being pissed is being lazy, in some respects. Play to their egos in this way. ---
**Author:** ![onthornsilay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onthornsilay/32/1427_2.png) [@onthornsilay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/onthornsilay)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248/20 "2009-08-04T09:27:02Z")
basicly just wear 10 sprays of turn up the heat and watch them react to that, i dont think they are gonna have a super ego around for long lol. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-handling-the-super-ego-girls/31248.md?page=2)