# Need help! I am 21, male, Middle Eastern

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**Created:** [November 18, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-i-am-21-male-middle-eastern/6733 "2007-11-18T22:30:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-i-am-21-male-middle-eastern/6733/12 "2007-11-19T23:57:17Z")

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Kopo, back to here:

> [@mark-in-dallas](#):
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> Kopo,  
> Please don’t take offense, but I think you turned into the lost puppy, wussy kind of guy with her, and women do not find that attractive. You also gave her all the power, and she’s not likely to voluntarilly give it back.

You seem so totally and completely hung up on this girl that you are not thinking clearly. You could get her drunk and maybe for a couple of hours or the night have her seeing you differently, but that would wear off and she could very likely hold that against you once she sobered up.

Go to this site and subscribe to the newsletter, [David DeAngelo’s Video And Audio Programs](http://doubleyourdating.com/0/Catalog/), then read every word David D says and apply his techniques. I would also highly recommend getting the Double Your Dating e-book. He also has some other great material, but it may be cost prohibitive for you.

Your post reminds me somewhat of Habibs post: [Ladies, a lost gentleman needs your help.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552). He and I discussed his issue at length too, and he also received ALOT of advise from others as well. Take a look at his post and see if his experience is not somewhat paralleling yours. I also related a story about a girl and a guy that I knew, in which guy liked girl, girl was somewhat interested in guy, guy became a needy, clingy wussy and girl lost interest!

You have to lose the wussy lost puppy personna, and let her see the guy that she initially liked. I would be willing to bet dimes to dollars that if you really think about it, you are not acting like you did when you first met and were dating her!

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